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Notices INTRODUCING: Infinite Scroll & Related Threads Community Links Pictures & Albums Members List Search Forums Show Threads Show Posts Tag Search Advanced Search Go to Page... 442 stands for ? Reply Subscribe Thread Tools Search this Thread Apr 23, 2014 | 08:17 PM Share Share Options #1 knighthawk Thread Starter Registered User Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 285 From: from Wisc, then Texas, then Kansas, now back to Texas, 442 stands for ? age old question ...what does the 442 stand for / I always thought it was for 4bl , 4 speed , dual exh. I was told today, it does NOT mean 4 speed . Says it was originally foe 64?(?) 4 door Police cars ???????? Reply knighthawk View Public Profile Find More Posts by knighthawk Apr 23, 2014 | 08:26 PM Share Share Options #2 2blu442 Moderator Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 14,185 From: Medford, Oregon Nope, you got bad info today. You were right the first time! In 1964 the only way you could get the car was with a 330 4bbl engine, 4 speed transmission, and dual exhaust. That gave it the name. From 1965 forward you could get an automatic transmission if you wanted, but the 442 name still applied. John Reply 2blu442 View Public Profile Find More Posts by 2blu442 Apr 23, 2014 | 08:42 PM Share Share Options #3 oldstata Justin Joined: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,453 From: utah It really depends on the year it verys between years I don't know all the diffrent meanings Reply oldstata View Public Profile Find More Posts by oldstata Apr 23, 2014 | 08:45 PM Share Share Options #4 66400 Registered User Joined: May 2009 Posts: 1,393 From: Austin, Tx And in '65-'69 it became 400 cid 4bl, dual exhaust although the 66 TriCarb didn't quite fit the formula. Henry Reply 66400 View Public Profile Find More Posts by 66400 Apr 23, 2014 | 08:45 PM Share Share Options #5 MDchanic Connoisseur d'Junque Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 21,183 From: The Hudson Valley It doesn't really mean anything. As John said, in '64 it had a meaning in the marketing literature. After that, the specifications of the car no longer corresponded to the stated meaning, so you could make up anything you wanted, but the factory never said it meant anything after '64. - Eric Reply MDchanic View Public Profile Find More Posts by MDchanic Apr 23, 2014 | 09:21 PM Share Share Options #6 Kyle's 77 Cutlass Registered User Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 1,319 From: Ste Rose Manitoba Canada You mean four hundred and forty two? lol Kidding Reply Kyle's 77 Cutlass View Public Profile Find More Posts by Kyle's 77 Cutlass Apr 23, 2014 | 09:30 PM Share Share Options #7 69ishHoliday Registered User Joined: Jun 2013 Posts: 492 First generation Z28 Camaro's were all four speeds, the stripes were optional, but real first gen Z28's all had a 302 engine and all were four speeds. The first Z28 available with an automatic was in the 70 1/2 where you could choose either. As the muscle was soon to depart the muscle cars. Reply 69ishHoliday View Public Profile Find More Posts by 69ishHoliday Apr 23, 2014 | 10:15 PM Share Share Options #8 1969w3155 Registered User Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 9,346 From: Muskegon, Mi. The engine for the '64 was borrowed from their Police package (remember, they were trying to quickly respond to the GTO), there were reportedly ten 4dr '64 442's built. Reply 1969w3155 View Public Profile Find More Posts by 1969w3155 Apr 24, 2014 | 12:29 AM Share Share Options #9 Diego Registered User Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 2,621 Two points: 1. In 1964, the 4-4-2 meant 4-barrel, 4-speed, 2-exhaust. But there is meaning after that, as in 1965 it meant 4-hundred cid, 4bbl. carb, 2-exhaust. 2. Stripes were standard on the Camaro Z/28. It was the only Camaro to have "band-aid" stripes aside of the '69 pace car; otherwise, the SS shouldn't have those stripes. Reply Diego View Public Profile Find More Posts by Diego Apr 24, 2014 | 01:17 AM Share Share Options #10 nsnarsk65cutlass Registered User Joined: Apr 2013 Posts: 978 From: Grass Valley Ca What does the camaro have to do with the ops question? Reply nsnarsk65cutlass View Public Profile Find More Posts by nsnarsk65cutlass Apr 24, 2014 | 07:12 AM Share Share Options #11 Arrowstorm Olds Wagonmaster Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 292 From: Slidell, La Varies by year. I've learned that by 72, the 442 was nothing more than an appearance and handling package. Originally, though, it meant 4bbl, 4 sp, 2 exhaust. Reply Arrowstorm View Public Profile Find More Posts by Arrowstorm Apr 24, 2014 | 07:55 AM Share Share Options #12 70cutty Beer Connoisseur Joined: Aug 2008 Posts: 2,091 From: Daly City, California I thought it was the cubic inches. Reply 70cutty View Public Profile Find More Posts by 70cutty Apr 24, 2014 | 09:09 AM Share Share Options #13 Koda Registered User Joined: Aug 2013 Posts: 12,539 From: Evansville, IN One thing is certain, there is a correct way to pronounce it: 1 (Redneck Style): "Forrrrrr Forrrrrteeeee TOOO" 2 (Hood Style): "Fow Fow Too" 3 (Correct Style): "Four Four Two" All it was was a marketing technique. Successful one, as I think people talk it up more than they talk about the Gran Turismo Omologato, which is Grand Tourer Homologated, for those that don't speak Italian. Reply Koda View Public Profile Find More Posts by Koda Apr 24, 2014 | 09:24 AM Share Share Options #14 66400 Registered User Joined: May 2009 Posts: 1,393 From: Austin, Tx Quote: Originally Posted by Koda One thing is certain, there is a correct way to pronounce it: 1 (Redneck Style): "Forrrrrr Forrrrrteeeee TOOO" 2 (Hood Style): "Fow Fow Too" 3 (Correct Style): "Four Four Two" All it was was a marketing technique. Successful one, as I think people talk it up more than they talk about the Gran Turismo Omologato, which is Grand Tourer Homologated, for those that don't speak Italian. Number 4 Don't forget immigrants, took a while to teach my wife (Vietnamese) it was not four hundred and fourtytwo but four four two! And my Chevelles were not SS three hundred and ninetysixes. Henry Reply 66400 View Public Profile Find More Posts by 66400 Apr 24, 2014 | 09:55 AM Share Share Options #15 wmachine Trying to remember member Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 4,112 From: Ohio Sad to see how we've lost our history here. All of these posts and not the whole story. So here it is again (as this has been answered in this forum before): In 1964, Olds defined 442 as "4-bbl carb, 4 on-the-floor, Dual Exhausts" http://wildaboutcarsonline.com/cgi-b...aldisplayed=50 In 1965, with the auto trans available, Olds changed it to "400-cubic-inch V8, 4 Barrel Carb, Twin Pipes" http://wildaboutcarsonline.com/cgi-b...aldisplayed=50 After '65, Old did not give any definition to the 442 numbers. That's all there was. Reply wmachine View Public Profile Visit wmachine's homepage! Find More Posts by wmachine Apr 24, 2014 | 10:11 AM Share Share Options #16 Octania Registered User Joined: Dec 2011 Posts: 7,286 What's it mean? It means this here ain't just no F85, Cutlass or even Cutlass Supreme. It's got something SPECIAL. Exactly what that special part is, varied from year to year. But, it makes the owner feel good, folks discuss it, and the other driver intimidated. Task accomplished, marketing. Reply Octania View Public Profile Find More Posts by Octania Apr 24, 2014 | 11:34 AM Share Share Options #17 1969w3155 Registered User Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 9,346 From: Muskegon, Mi. And then there's the folks at car shows that think if it has an automatic, it can't be a 442. Reply 1969w3155 View Public Profile Find More Posts by 1969w3155 Apr 24, 2014 | 09:28 PM Share Share Options #18 Koda Registered User Joined: Aug 2013 Posts: 12,539 From: Evansville, IN Quote: Originally Posted by 1969w3155 And then there's the folks at car shows that think if it has an automatic, it can't be a 442. There's only one solution for that: RAUNCHY POWER BURNOUT while leaving. Reply Koda View Public Profile Find More Posts by Koda Apr 25, 2014 | 05:26 AM Share Share Options #19 tru-blue 442 Old School Olds Joined: Nov 2008 Posts: 9,230 From: Marble Falls TX How about the quad 4 442? 4 cyl. 4 speed, 2 buckets? Reply tru-blue 442 View Public Profile Find More Posts by tru-blue 442 Apr 25, 2014 | 05:56 AM Share Share Options #20 oldsmobilty Registered User Joined: Sep 2012 Posts: 533 From: Indianapolis,In One example I found on Olds Faq: Definition of 4-4-2 from the Oldsmobile Factory Literature: 1964 (Original meaning) 4: Four Barrel Carburetion 4: Four On the Floor 2: Dual Exhausts 1965 (First year of automatic transmission option on 442) 4: 400 Cubic Inch Displacement 4: Four Barrel Carburetion 2: Dual Exhausts 1985 to 1987 (Last of RWD 442s) 4: Four speed automatic 4: Four barrel carburetor 2: Dual exhaust 1990 and 1991 (FWD 442) 4: Four cylinders 4: Four valves 2: Two camshafts Reply oldsmobilty View Public Profile Find More Posts by oldsmobilty Apr 25, 2014 | 06:04 AM Share Share Options #21 wmachine Trying to remember member Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 4,112 From: Ohio Quote: Originally Posted by tru-blue 442 How about the quad 4 442? 4 cyl. 4 speed, 2 buckets? If you really want to go there, the "Quad 4" is "4-valve, 4-cyl", and it is a 5-spd. So I think it would have been more appropriately "4-valve, 4-cyl, dual exhaust" Reply wmachine View Public Profile Visit wmachine's homepage! Find More Posts by wmachine Apr 25, 2014 | 06:09 AM Share Share Options #22 wmachine Trying to remember member Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 4,112 From: Ohio Quote: Originally Posted by oldsmobilty One example I found on Olds Faq: Definition of 4-4-2 from the Oldsmobile Factory Literature: 1985 to 1987 (Last of RWD 442s) 4: Four speed automatic 4: Four barrel carburetor 2: Dual exhaust 1990 and 1991 (FWD 442) 4: Four cylinders 4: Four valves 2: Two camshafts Though these references were made, I don't believe they were offered as *definitions* of the 442 numbers for those years. Reply wmachine View Public Profile Visit wmachine's homepage! Find More Posts by wmachine Apr 25, 2014 | 06:40 AM Share Share Options #23 DENT Registered User Joined: Dec 2011 Posts: 978 From: Tillsonburg Ont. Canada. Just the other day a co worker insisted that 442 meant 4 barrel 4 speed 2 door , this is an AMC expert . Reply DENT View Public Profile Find More Posts by DENT Apr 25, 2014 | 06:41 AM Share Share Options #24 oldsmobilty Registered User Joined: Sep 2012 Posts: 533 From: Indianapolis,In Kurt I agree, no contest here. Just a reference and definition of 442 as you stated. Reply oldsmobilty View Public Profile Find More Posts by oldsmobilty Apr 25, 2014 | 07:21 AM Share Share Options #25 wmachine Trying to remember member Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 4,112 From: Ohio Quote: Originally Posted by DENT Just the other day a co worker insisted that 442 meant 4 barrel 4 speed 2 door , this is an AMC expert . Seems someone always has to be wrong, and it looks like he volunteered. Reply wmachine View Public Profile Visit wmachine's homepage! Find More Posts by wmachine Apr 25, 2014 | 10:16 AM Share Share Options #26 knighthawk Thread Starter Registered User Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 285 From: from Wisc, then Texas, then Kansas, now back to Texas, real interesting , thanks guys ! Reply knighthawk View Public Profile Find More Posts by knighthawk Apr 25, 2014 | 11:25 AM Share Share Options #27 tru-blue 442 Old School Olds Joined: Nov 2008 Posts: 9,230 From: Marble Falls TX Quote: Originally Posted by wmachine If you really want to go there, the "Quad 4" is "4-valve, 4-cyl", and it is a 5-spd. So I think it would have been more appropriately "4-valve, 4-cyl, dual exhaust" Ha ha! I knew you would chime in Kurt. Just checking. Happy Friday everyone. Reply tru-blue 442 View Public Profile Find More Posts by tru-blue 442 Apr 25, 2014 | 11:54 AM Share Share Options #28 Arrowstorm Olds Wagonmaster Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 292 From: Slidell, La After this thread, I am DEFINITELY getting 442 emblems for my Vista Cruiser. Reply Arrowstorm View Public Profile Find More Posts by Arrowstorm Jun 13, 2014 | 02:07 PM Share Share Options #29 JohnnyBs68S Registered User Joined: Jun 2014 Posts: 1,574 From: Ft. Wayne, IN I used to claim i had a 1/2 of a 442 = "2-2-1" 2-bbl carb 2-speed auto 1-single exhaust Reply JohnnyBs68S View Public Profile Find More Posts by JohnnyBs68S Jun 17, 2014 | 01:25 PM Share Share Options #30 tva442 Registered User Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 600 From: Lincoln Univ, PA I still claim my '69 3 speed manual is a 4-3-2 Reply tva442 View Public Profile Find More Posts by tva442 Jun 26, 2014 | 01:31 PM Share Share Options #31 cecilsclassics Registered User Joined: Jul 2013 Posts: 35 From: Marion, IL 442 - 4 cylinder 4-valves per cylinder 2 cams!!! LOL!!! Reply cecilsclassics View Public Profile Find More Posts by cecilsclassics Jun 26, 2014 | 03:21 PM Share Share Options #32 rjohnson442 Mr. Johnson Joined: Feb 2012 Posts: 574 From: Cleveland Ohio 4 tail lights 4 you 2 see disappear works on a 72 at least. or nowadays 44 2Much. Reply rjohnson442 View Public Profile Find More Posts by rjohnson442 Jun 26, 2014 | 04:50 PM Share Share Options #33 Sampson Registered User Joined: Dec 2012 Posts: 1,605 From: Fuquay Varina NC Amazing how many people come up to me and ask if I have a 442 cu in engine. I just smile and say yep! Same when I drove a Charger. Most people would look and say is that there one of them hemi's? Yep! If they cannot look and at least get in the ballpark it's no use trying to explain Reply Sampson View Public Profile Find More Posts by Sampson Jun 26, 2014 | 05:32 PM Share Share Options #34 11971four4two MOTORHEAD Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 7,600 From: minnesota USA Hank who lives a couples houses down the block told me it was the size engine that i had in my nova. 1971 4bbl TH400 dual exhaust Reply 11971four4two View Public Profile Find More Posts by 11971four4two Aug 17, 2019 | 01:12 PM Share Share Options #35 Inline Registered User Joined: Sep 2015 Posts: 1,882 From: Chicago suburbs, Finland 4 tail-lights 4 you 2 see? Reply Inline View Public Profile Find More Posts by Inline Aug 17, 2019 | 10:52 PM Share Share Options #36 Daiv8or Registered User Joined: May 2019 Posts: 442 From: Discovery Bay, CA Add two zeros to the end and that's what you're supposed to expect at a fancy auction. (Adjust your actual reality accordingly) That's pretty much what 442 means today. For a W- anything... add another zero I guess. Last edited by Daiv8or; Aug 17, 2019 at 10:58 PM. Reply Daiv8or View Public Profile Find More Posts by Daiv8or Aug 20, 2019 | 07:30 PM Share Share Options #37 matt69olds Registered User Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 6,015 From: central Indiana Quote: Originally Posted by Kyle's 77 Cutlass You mean four hundred and forty two? lol Kidding Reply matt69olds View Public Profile Find More Posts by matt69olds Aug 20, 2019 | 07:32 PM Share Share Options #38 matt69olds Registered User Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 6,015 From: central Indiana Reply matt69olds View Public Profile Find More Posts by matt69olds Aug 20, 2019 | 07:35 PM Share Share Options #39 matt69olds Registered User Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 6,015 From: central Indiana Simple arithmetic:442= a perfect 10! 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