Bamboozled By The "CES Letter" By Michael R. Ash

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In April 2013, Jeremy T. Runnells published a PDF booklet entitled "Letter to a CES Director". This booklet, which is now typically referred to as the "CES Letter", catalogs Runnells’ concerns and reasons why he left the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (Mormons). Runnells has worked hard to make his booklet available to people everywhere (and in several languages) and has, unfortunately, been the agent for leading at least a few other believers out of Mormonism.

Sadly, most of those who have been bamboozled by the “CES Letter“ are Latter-Day Saints who were blindsided by scholarly sounding interpretations of challenging data. In my opinion, however, the “CES Letter” creates a caricature of Mormonism. The arguments are fundamentally flawed and do not accurately represent either Mormonism or the only logical interpretations of the data.

Unfortunately, the reason the "CES Letter" has enjoyed any success is that most Latter-Day Saints have never been exposed to some of the more complex matters in early Mormon history. On average, the typical Latter-Day Saint has never needed to think outside of the box on Mormon-related philosophical, historical, or scholarly issues.

Bamboozled by the "CES Letter" explains why these controversial issues need not kill a testimony. Interpretation matters. Many laymembers, as well as educated Mormon scholars, are fully aware of every topic discussed in the "CES Letter" but continue strong in their faith because they recognize that there are logical interpretations that can be integrated with their belief in Mormonism. There are answers to the concerns raised by the "CES Letter", and those answers can be supported by current scholarship as well as harmonized with the acceptance of Mormon truth claims.

©2015 Michael R. Ash (P)2022 The Foundation for Apologetic Information and Research, Inc. Mormon Christianity

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I wouldn't say Michael A is a great story teller, or the most eloquent. I would say he knows how to be efficient and get the job done. This is intended to be a quick overview of the nonsense of the CES Letter, providing good explanations of the fallacies used and the factual information left out of the letter. He also discusses proper methods that should be used to analyze data. He covers the misleading material and shines a light of context on it (the time, the people, human errors, etc). It's a short listen/read and I knocked it out in about a day. If you're either curious or having a struggle of faith regarding the CES Letter, you'll find yourself completing this booklet thinking "wow, I was so silly to fall for the CES tactics in the first place." And for that, I commend the author. It's very little time, very convenient, and there are no downsides really. If you find yourself wanting more in depth analysis and/or rebuttal, I suggest doing a web search for "Sarah Allen's (dice1899) response to the CES Letter" for incredible additional works on this.

Accomplishes what it set out to do.

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it was nice to listen to, the guy has some jokes sprinkled in. plus the points made were concise and easy to follow

any easy read

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Love having an objective counter argument. It’s always good to hear both sides of an issue and make your own decision.

Good stuff

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I highly enjoyed this book. Less acerbic than Hugh Nibley's "The Myth Makers", Michael Ash nevertheless flays the CES Letter wide open to show to all that for every claim the Letter makes, there are a number of inconvenient truths left out by its author through either ignorance or willful misdirection. "Bamboozled by the CES Letter" is the latest funerary rite for the Letter's potency, yet it maintains the decorum and demeanor our modern world has come to expect from a faithful member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Concurrently, it disabuses the reader of any notions they may be harboring that perhaps the Letter really does present accurate, valid and uncontested claims against the teachings and history of the Church and Joseph Smith. This is the peer review the Letter has desperately needed and will hopefully serve to fortify those who have been, are now, or will be affected negatively by it. I think Derrick Duncan does a great job of narration, but could have been a bit more engaging in tonality and cadence. I fully realize this is completely subjective.

Cogent and Informative

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Mike Ash answers questions with kind yet common sense. I have thoroughly enjoyed this book.

A common sense answer to the CES questions

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