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Super Member Registered Joined Jul 9, 2017 Messages 1,308 Reaction score 921 Location Oakland, California Website www.authoralexryan.com A quick Google would suggest that "Caesar" is the correct spelling of the former Roman ruler and salad (and that the salad was not in fact named after the ruler) but NOBODY SPELLS IT THAT WAY*. In fact, now that I think about it, I remember being taught in school at some point that "Caesar" is an antiquated form of "Ceasar." Spell check keeps wanting to change "Ceasar" in to "Caesar" but it just doesn't look right. And no, I don't write about ancient Rome, my protagonist likes salads. What say the brain trust, "Ceasar" is just wrong, or so commonly used it is an acceptable spelling? The question is somewhat rhetorical in that I am not going to edit all of my books. *Obviously some people do, it's just an observed generalizationMaggie Maxwell
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Super Member Registered Joined Jun 21, 2013 Messages 12,561 Reaction score 14,798 Location In my head Website thewanderingquille.blogspot.com I've literally never seen anyone use "Ceasar" except for typos. I more hear the argument "Is it pronounced Seize-er or Kai-zer?" Never heard or seen any argument over the spelling. It's Caesar.Marlys
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Super Member Registered Joined Feb 23, 2005 Messages 3,584 Reaction score 980 Location midwestMaggie Maxwell said: I've literally never seen anyone use "Ceasar" except for typos. I more hear the argument "Is it pronounced Seize-er or Kai-zer?" Never heard or seen any argument over the spelling. It's Caesar. Click to expand...Same here.
LJD
Super Member Registered Joined Sep 12, 2010 Messages 4,226 Reaction score 528Maggie Maxwell said: I've literally never seen anyone use "Ceasar" except for typos. I more hear the argument "Is it pronounced Seize-er or Kai-zer?" Never heard or seen any argument over the spelling. It's Caesar. Click to expand...Me, too.
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Super Member Registered Joined Oct 26, 2016 Messages 6,024 Reaction score 1,069 Location Baltimore, MD Caesar vote here tooTazlima
Super Member Registered Joined Jun 26, 2013 Messages 3,117 Reaction score 1,780 When I see the letter combination "ae," I generally assume it's derived from the letter æ. You still see it in use occasionally with words like "encyclopædia" when people want the word to look old fashioned and fancy. It's also used in several other languages, as well as the International phonetic alphabet (the "pronunciation" symbols used in dictionaries in most countries outside the US which, for some reason, has clung to its own pronunciation symbols almost as tightly as to imperial measurements), to represent the a sound in words like "cat." Wikipedia (or should it be... Wikipædia?) has a pretty good overview.blacbird
Super Member Registered Joined Mar 21, 2005 Messages 36,987 Reaction score 6,159 Location The right earlobe of North AmericaLJD said: Me, too. Click to expand...Yup. Never seen "Ceasar". caw
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Kind Benefactor Super Member Registered Joined May 9, 2005 Messages 16,767 Reaction score 4,662 Location Scotland And another who's never seen 'Ceaser'.Marissa D
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Super Member Registered Joined Jan 22, 2011 Messages 3,071 Reaction score 366 Location New England but hankering for the old one Website www.marissadoyle.com "Ceasar" is a mistake. Really truly. (It also hurts the eyes. I took eight years of Latin.)cornflake
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Super Member Registered Joined Jul 11, 2012 Messages 16,164 Reaction score 3,734 Caesar, never seen the reverse and would assume it was a typo.shakeysix
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Super Member Registered Joined May 1, 2007 Messages 10,839 Reaction score 2,428 Location St. John, Kansas Website shakey6wordsmith.webs.com Cease with the Ceaser! --s6Al X.
Super Member Registered Joined Jul 9, 2017 Messages 1,308 Reaction score 921 Location Oakland, California Website www.authoralexryan.com So far that's ten for ten. Also this is coming from a guy that, until two years ago, never realized that there was no 'x' in 'espresso.' But seriously, I see 'Ceasar' all the time.cornflake
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Super Member Registered Joined Jul 11, 2012 Messages 16,164 Reaction score 3,734Al X. said: So far that's ten for ten. Also this is coming from a guy that, until two years ago, never realized that there was no 'x' in 'espresso.' But seriously, I see 'Ceasar' all the time. Click to expand...Where? I've never, to my knowledge, seen it and I feel like I'd notice bc it looks like a typo. Also, I had a parakeet named Caesar when I was small. I'm looking at menus of some Italian places near me, heh -- classic caesar salad, fresh shaved parmegiano & garlic crouton Classic Caesar crispy romaine, shaved Parmesan, homemade croutons 9 Little Gem Caesar Salad Lunch Parmesan frico. $13.00
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Super Member Registered Joined Jan 22, 2011 Messages 3,071 Reaction score 366 Location New England but hankering for the old one Website www.marissadoyle.com I've seen it misspelled on menus. But it's precisely that--a misspelling.morngnstar
Super Member Registered Joined Nov 9, 2014 Messages 2,271 Reaction score 297 Ceasar is just wrong. It might be a common misspelling, but not to the point of being acceptable. I've never seen it in a published work. There are some variants in foreign languages. The Italian-American inventor of the Caesar salad was known as Caesar Cardini in America, but his birth name was Cesare. In Spanish it's Cesar, like Cesar Chavez. But never Ceasar.Chase
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Kind Benefactor Super Member Registered Joined Jan 13, 2008 Messages 9,239 Reaction score 2,320 Location Oregon, USAAl X. said: But seriously, I see 'Ceasar' all the time. Click to expand...Quit reading that junk.
. Just kidding, but if I came across "Ceaser" in a client's manuscript, I'd instantly line through it and suggest "Caesar." Al X.
Super Member Registered Joined Jul 9, 2017 Messages 1,308 Reaction score 921 Location Oakland, California Website www.authoralexryan.comcornflake said: Where? I've never, to my knowledge, seen it and I feel like I'd notice bc it looks like a typo. Also, I had a parakeet named Caesar when I was small. I'm looking at menus of some Italian places near me, heh -- classic caesar salad, fresh shaved parmegiano & garlic crouton Classic Caesar crispy romaine, shaved Parmesan, homemade croutons 9 Little Gem Caesar Salad Lunch Parmesan frico. $13.00 Click to expand...Thirteen bucks sounds a little steep for a salad. But yeah, you (all) made me look.
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Super Member Registered Joined Jan 5, 2018 Messages 4,863 Reaction score 167 Location ColoradoAl X. said: But seriously, I see 'Ceasar' all the time. Click to expand...Maybe you are thinking of a Latin male name with a different spelling, such as Julio César Chávez (pronounced say zar). Then again, maybe not.
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Super Member Registered Joined Jul 4, 2012 Messages 13,507 Reaction score 15,936 Location Virginia That's what I was thinking - like Cesar Milan, the Dog Whisperer. I've never, ever seen Ceasar unless it was a misspelling on a menu.cornflake
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Super Member Registered Joined Jul 11, 2012 Messages 16,164 Reaction score 3,734Al X. said: Thirteen bucks sounds a little steep for a salad. But yeah, you (all) made me look. Click to expand...And for lunch! The other -- without the price, was also 9 iirc and both of those were dinner. SMH.
Al X.
Super Member Registered Joined Jul 9, 2017 Messages 1,308 Reaction score 921 Location Oakland, California Website www.authoralexryan.comEnlightened said: Maybe you are thinking of a Latin male name with a different spelling, such as Julio César Chávez (pronounced say zar). Then again, maybe not. Click to expand...No - The City of Delano is one of our clients. We have to know that one.
Zanralotta
Registered Joined Apr 27, 2010 Messages 19 Reaction score 8 A little trick from an ESL speaker: To determine the most common usage (not always the most correct), look at google hits. caesar: 130,000,000 ceasar: 8,860,000 ceasar -caesar: 576,000 (the last search shows you stuff like "Center for Adolescent Substance Abuse Research (CeASAR)" which allows you to determine if the googled word has another meaning that inflates your number of hits) It's not the most reliable way to collect data since Google keeps tabs on your browser history and doesn't show you the "real" results, just what its algorithms determine to be the most likely results you want, but it should give you an idea. You must log in or register to reply here. Share: Facebook Twitter Reddit Pinterest Tumblr WhatsApp Email Share Link- Forums
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