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Off Topic Wo3Dan October 21, 2016, 9:29am 1 (Not that important but out of curiosity)With coplanar (faces) there seems to be no misunderstnding about spelling the word. What often (and for a long time now) has surprised me is how col(l)linear (edges) is spelled here on the forum. Colinear is by far more favorit and can’t even remember seeing double l used. I use collinear and can’t find colinear on internet as being correct.Who helps me out to stop being stubborn or …TIA. Box October 21, 2016, 9:44am 2 It’s English so all rules are meant to be broken, either spelling is acceptable. You’ll find the variations in spelling are often geographic or socioeconomic. For Americans it is Color, for British it is Colour, US Favorite, GB Favourite and so on and so forth with many words and phrases. Then you can have different spellings depending on class structure/education standards, much like Common German and High German.Personally I favour colinear, as it is co and linear not col and linear, but then English tends to throw in extra letters just because they can.1 Like TIG October 21, 2016, 11:59am 3 Although I tend to use ‘colinear’ [as it seems the most logical formation, and it is one less key-press] AND it is now widely regarded as a direct synonym of ‘collinear’, there is a subtle difference in their ‘original’ meanings…COLINEAR: Having corresponding parts arranged in the same linear order. e.g. A gene and the protein it determines could be said to be ‘colinear’. First used 1927.COLLINEAR: Lying on, or passing through, the same straight line. e.g. ‘Collinear’ points. Or having axes lying end to end in a straight line. e.g. ‘Collinear’ elements in an antenna-array. First used 1863.3 Likes slbaumgartner October 21, 2016, 12:32pm 4 As any crossword puzzle fan will tell you, English is rife with variant spellings of words. In many cases a variant starts out as an error and eventually becomes accepted due to popular usage.2 Likes Geo October 21, 2016, 3:06pm 5

I use collinear and can’t find colinear on internet as being correct.

I searched my system for colinear and found a number of plugin icon images labeled ‘colinear’ Searching my system for collinear returned roughly the same number of results.Microsoft® Word™ auto-corrects colinear to be collinear. And the folks at Merriam-Webster spell it collinear.I think it’s like @Box says, a lot depends upon whose English you prefer.

3 Likes slbaumgartner October 21, 2016, 3:18pm 6 I get tyred of fretting over such specialisations.1 Like Wo3Dan October 21, 2016, 5:25pm 7

I think it’s like @Box says, a lot depends upon whose English you prefer.

I get tyred of fretting over such specialisations.

I’m not picking on anybody, it’s just that I wood/woot like it to be one spelling for one and the same word. … … Not really. And I can understand that there are quite a few ways of English spelling, more than there are versions in Dutch, as @Box wrote. Afterall we represent such a small spot on the globe. slbaumgartner October 21, 2016, 5:35pm 8 I’m not a linguist so I can’t comment on the evolution of spelling in other languages. But in English the pronunciation of words has varied both regionally and historically. For a long time spelling wasn’t standardized at all, with many writers choosing their own local preferences. Non-standard (or lacking) education no doubt also played a role. The difference between things such as British “colour” and American “color” and “ise” vs “ize” arose when Webster tried to clean up spelling for his dictionary, eliminating letters that he thought were superfluous or that no longer reflected the way the word was most commonly pronounced in America. Bottom line: it’s a mess! eneroth3 October 21, 2016, 6:16pm 9 I’m quite sure SketchUp is in en-US so there’s no need to bring in en-GB. TIG October 21, 2016, 6:24pm 10 [quote=“eneroth3, post:9, topic:32540, full:true”] I’m quite sure SketchUp is in en-US so there’s no need to bring in en-GB. [/quote] That is unless you happen to be from GB ? Each ENglish speaking country has it’s own EN version and oddities, and, yes, the US one prevails in SketchUp… but… There is yet another ‘International English’ used by airline pilots, which might be more apt ! So… US = airplane GB = aeroplane INT = aircraft etc etc It often uses either US or GB conventions, so there is no single logical ‘ENglish’ at all !1 Like josephkim626 October 22, 2016, 12:01am 11 I am American living in British soil, using SketchUp day to day.Eraser tool is another one that raises British eyebrows as it would have to be called the Rubber tool.

1 Like Cotty October 22, 2016, 9:14am 12 It makes me happy that native English speakers have those problems too. (But you should really say mouses instead of mice

) Wo3Dan October 22, 2016, 9:41am 13

…(But you should really say mouses instead of mice …

ah, it still hurts a little bit, doesn’t it?How is German spelling? I guess more or less as strict as Dutch spelling rules.From what I remember learning Spanish, they also seem to have quite strickt rules. The thing that makes it difficult are the verbs (as in French), for me at least. And in German it’s: der / des / dem / den or die / der / den / die or das / des / dem / das, for the English word “the” in normal life. Box October 22, 2016, 9:49am 14 This makes even more sense now with Brexit.The European Commission has announced an agreement whereby English will be the official language of the EU, rather than German, which was the other contender. Her Majesty’s Government conceded that English spelling had room for improvement and has therefore accepted a five-year phasing in of “Euro-English”.In the first year, “s” will replace the soft “c”. Sertainly, this will make sivil servants jump for joy. The hard “c” will be dropped in favour of the “k”, Which should klear up some konfusion and allow one key less on keyboards.There will be growing publik enthusiasm in the sekond year, when the troublesome “ph” will be replaced with “f”, making words like “fotograf” 20% shorter.In the third year, publik akseptanse of the new spelling kan be expekted to reach the stage where more komplikated changes are possible. Governments will enkourage the removal of double letters which have always ben a deterent to akurate speling. Also, al wil agre that the horible mes of the silent “e” is disgrasful.By the fourth yer, peopl wil be reseptiv to steps such as replasing “th” with “z” and “w” with “v”.During ze fifz yer, ze unesesary “o” kan be dropd from vords kontaining “ou” and similar changes vud of kors be aplid to ozer kombinations of leters. After zis fifz yer, ve vil hav a reli sensibl riten styl. Zer vil be no mor trubls or difikultis and everivun vil find it ezi to understand ech ozer. ZE DREM VIL FINALI COM TRU!Herr Schmidt5 Likes Wo3Dan October 22, 2016, 10:15am 15 Som tjanges ar improovments, som ar definitifly not. But wat ar we doing with Englishj as the officilal languitshj in Europe without Britain inkluded?( I do, but on the other hand at the same time don’t understand the Brexit as the outcome of the referendum. We need a far better “team” in Brussel)See: Learn English really funny commercial - YouTube2 Likes TIG October 22, 2016, 2:06pm 16 Don’t forget that EN-GB is also an official language of Ireland [ indeed Ireland are the only EU member not to insist on one of their official languages being used in translations - Gaelic - since almost everyone speaks English there anyway ]1 Like slbaumgartner October 22, 2016, 2:14pm 17 I recall reading that “neighbor” is spelled (spelt) that way because at one time it was pronounced like negbore (with a gutteral ‘g’). TIG October 22, 2016, 2:18pm 18

Box October 22, 2016, 2:19pm 19 Neighbours is without doubt the most boring TV ever produced. Anssi October 22, 2016, 2:33pm 20 The English should perhaps start to adopt the Finnish syste of spelling:Simpel-Fonetik method of writingSimpel-Fonetik is a system of English-language spelling reform that simplifies the reading, writing, and pronunciation of words in English. It was created by Allan Kiisk, a multilingual (English, German, Latin, and Estonian) professor of engineering. Based on phonetic languages including Estonian, Finnish, and Hawaiian, it removes common difficulties of learning to communicate in English by correlating one unique letter per sound and one sound per letter. Simpel-Fonetik writing is based on the ...1 Likenext page → Related topics