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User avatar tonydahose Member Posts: 6277 Joined: Thu Jan 19, 2006 7:56 am Location: Chicago Contact: Contact tonydahose Website

do they make carbon fiber in different colors?

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Post by tonydahose » Mon Jan 04, 2010 5:37 pm

and are they available for sale? just wondering :D WTC #1444 Always Remember Need info on a particular :spyder:, just click here My knives Spydie count: a few:D Top User avatar ChrisM Member Posts: 312 Joined: Mon May 18, 2009 10:40 am Location: Pensacola, FL
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Post by ChrisM » Mon Jan 04, 2010 5:49 pm

I've seen it in red, blue, yellow, silver/gray and other colors made for car parts so I'm sure it's available. Top User avatar The Deacon Member Posts: 25717 Joined: Fri Sep 24, 2004 10:33 am Location: Upstate SC, USA Contact: Contact The Deacon Website
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Post by The Deacon » Mon Jan 04, 2010 5:50 pm

Well, I know they make silver. Spyderco used it for those hideous accent stripes on the Spyker and Sheffield Supply shows red and blue in their catalog. Paul My Personal Website ---- Beginners Guide to Spyderco Collecting ---- Spydiewiki Deplorable :p WTC # 1458 - 1504 - 1508 - Never Forget, Never Forgive! Top User avatar Chris_H Member Posts: 1222 Joined: Fri Sep 24, 2004 10:33 am Location: FL, USA, Earth
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Post by Chris_H » Mon Jan 04, 2010 7:28 pm

Potterma has used some colored CF on his mods before; I've seen red for sure, but I think he's used others too. I think it is just the resin in the composite that has color; the fibers are still black. Anyone know different? "All your :spyder: are belong to us." ** WTC # 1032 1533 ** Top User avatar ssmtbracer Member Posts: 120 Joined: Wed Dec 30, 2009 8:02 pm Location: USA
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Post by ssmtbracer » Mon Jan 04, 2010 7:35 pm

Carbon itself does not come in colors you would have to paint it. Top User avatar FIMS Member Posts: 990 Joined: Mon Oct 19, 2009 9:41 pm Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada.
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Post by FIMS » Mon Jan 04, 2010 7:36 pm

The CF weave comes in pretty well any colour you can conceive of. Any reputable car or vehicle shop spcializing in mods to body work will have access to it. Oderint Dum Metuant - Let them hate, so long as they fear. :spyder:'s - I have sincerely now lost count. http://www.spydiewiki.com/ http://spyderco.com/edge-u-cation/glossary.php Top User avatar ssmtbracer Member Posts: 120 Joined: Wed Dec 30, 2009 8:02 pm Location: USA
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Post by ssmtbracer » Mon Jan 04, 2010 7:46 pm

FIMS wrote:The CF weave comes in pretty well any colour you can conceive of. Any reputable car or vehicle shop spcializing in mods to body work will have access to it.
Yes it does but it is painted. Carbon is black. Top JD Spydo Member Posts: 23725 Joined: Tue Sep 28, 2004 7:53 pm Location: Blue Springs, Missouri

Klotzli has many different color CF handles

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Post by JD Spydo » Mon Jan 04, 2010 7:48 pm

Tony I don't know if you remember or not but about 2 to 3 month ago here on the Off Topic section the forum I had a thread about Swiss made Klotzli knives. It was the October 2001 issue of Knives Illustrated that had an article on the huge variety and extremely beautiful line of multi-colored carbon fiber folders that Klotzli had. I know for a fact that Klotzli has at least 8 to 10 different colors of Carbon Fiber handles. But if there's any way we could pull up that thread I had on Klotzli knives there was quite a bit of discussion on that topic. Top User avatar Donut Member Posts: 9614 Joined: Sat Sep 05, 2009 5:47 pm Location: Virginia Beach, VA, USA
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Post by Donut » Mon Jan 04, 2010 8:46 pm

This one? Swiss blades: Klotzli Top User avatar FIMS Member Posts: 990 Joined: Mon Oct 19, 2009 9:41 pm Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada.
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Post by FIMS » Mon Jan 04, 2010 8:47 pm

YEs, its the weave that is coloured, carbon is black. Oderint Dum Metuant - Let them hate, so long as they fear. :spyder:'s - I have sincerely now lost count. http://www.spydiewiki.com/ http://spyderco.com/edge-u-cation/glossary.php Top User avatar SmoothOne25 Member Posts: 2160 Joined: Thu Oct 01, 2009 7:41 am Location: NJ
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Post by SmoothOne25 » Mon Jan 04, 2010 10:00 pm

FIMS wrote:YEs, its the weave that is coloured, carbon is black.
that. just add your color :p --an eye for an eye-- "You can't escape yourself." Top RIOT Member Posts: 2923 Joined: Mon Mar 17, 2008 2:25 pm
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Post by RIOT » Tue Jan 05, 2010 3:23 pm

Yo Tony hope all is well, Here is 2 Red CF spacers on my BMX cruiser Attachments DSC02620.jpg DSC02620.jpg (95.57 KiB) Viewed 8957 times Top User avatar Clawhammer Member Posts: 480 Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 1:28 am Location: Australia
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Post by Clawhammer » Tue Jan 05, 2010 5:21 pm

Carbon Fibre comes in any colour you like as long as it's Black! Carbon-Fibre is burnt strands of plastic (like fishing line). Those coloured weaves you see are imitation 'Carbon Fibre', in a CF like weave. They can be cotton, fibreglass or poylester weaves that are dyed and coated with resin! Top Piercieve Member Posts: 523 Joined: Sun Apr 13, 2008 12:10 pm
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Post by Piercieve » Tue Jan 05, 2010 5:25 pm

Clawhammer wrote:Carbon Fibre comes in any colour you like as long as it's Black! Carbon-Fibre is burnt strands of plastic (like fishing line). Those coloured weaves you see are imitation 'Carbon Fibre', in a CF like weave. They can be cotton, fibreglass or poylester weaves that are dyed and coated with resin!
Clawhammer :( ... this is wrong in many ways it is certainly not strands of burnt plastic, and usually imitation carbon fiber isn't weaved anything, it's almost always just some lame printed on pattern. "I ain't looking for confusion, but it tends to follow me." E4 white, E4 waved SE, Caspian Salt, Crossbill, Mule, white Dragonfly, Boker CLB Desert Subcom, BM Blackwood mini Skirmish, Top User avatar Clawhammer Member Posts: 480 Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 1:28 am Location: Australia
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Post by Clawhammer » Tue Jan 05, 2010 10:20 pm

Piercieve wrote:Clawhammer :( ... this is wrong in many ways
...please go on then...you can't just leave a statement like that :) P.S. Make sure you spell "Acrylonitrile" correctly when you correct me ... Oh and here's an automotive "how-to". you can make your point with..BTW, please note the final comment on page 1! http://www.clublexus.com/forums/is-seco ... pping.html Top User avatar cosmo7809 Member Posts: 1762 Joined: Sun Jul 19, 2009 8:56 am Location: New York City
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Post by cosmo7809 » Tue Jan 05, 2010 10:22 pm

Piercieve wrote:Clawhammer :( ... this is wrong in many ways it is certainly not strands of burnt plastic, and usually imitation carbon fiber isn't weaved anything, it's almost always just some lame printed on pattern.
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Post by RIOT » Tue Jan 05, 2010 10:36 pm

im no pro with all is said about different color CFs but im leaning toward the fact that the pic i posted up above isnt actually CF and its probably some other type of woven material with a resin coat Top User avatar The Deacon Member Posts: 25717 Joined: Fri Sep 24, 2004 10:33 am Location: Upstate SC, USA Contact: Contact The Deacon Website
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Post by The Deacon » Wed Jan 06, 2010 3:07 am

Clawhammer wrote:Carbon Fibre comes in any colour you like as long as it's Black!
If you are talking about the individual fibers, true, but carbon fibers can be woven with other fibers before being formed into composites which do not have to be black.
Clawhammer wrote:Carbon-Fibre is burnt strands of plastic (like fishing line).
Only in the same simplistic way that a diamond is coal that's been heated ans squashed. Very specific plastics "burnt" in a very specific manner.
Clawhammer wrote:Those coloured weaves you see are imitation 'Carbon Fibre', in a CF like weave. They can be cotton, fibreglass or poylester weaves that are dyed and coated with resin!
Again, a somewhat simplistic and deceptive statement. There are liars and cheats in every area of life, but fakes are still fakes. On the other hand, for many applications a "part" made from CF laminate only needs the rigidity of CF in one direction, normally its length. That would certainly be acceptable on a knife handle. For such applications, a weave which combines CF fibers running lengthwise with kevlar or glass fibers running at the width will retain the benefit of the CF while allowing color. So not every colored CF laminate is "imitation CF". Paul My Personal Website ---- Beginners Guide to Spyderco Collecting ---- Spydiewiki Deplorable :p WTC # 1458 - 1504 - 1508 - Never Forget, Never Forgive! Top User avatar Clawhammer Member Posts: 480 Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 1:28 am Location: Australia
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Post by Clawhammer » Wed Jan 06, 2010 3:34 am

See that's how you correct someone...and yet I'm still not "wrong in so many ways!" as it was so clumsily put . I could've gone into inane detail, but the answer to the initial question was put ; carbon fibre only comes in black...anything else isn't carbon fibre! I'll accept if I am wrong about anything...just show me the evidence!!!! (I'm still pretty taken aback that someone would have the gall to leave that in respone to one of my posts, then hide)! :mad: :confused: Deacon
So not every colored CF laminate is "imitation CF"
I reckon I can argue that if you mix other (lesser) fibres into the composite...it's is no longer "Carbon Fibre". Different carbon fibres can be made for elastisity or torsional strength (depending on autoclave temps) but I can see no practical reason to weave them together. Top User avatar The Deacon Member Posts: 25717 Joined: Fri Sep 24, 2004 10:33 am Location: Upstate SC, USA Contact: Contact The Deacon Website
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Post by The Deacon » Wed Jan 06, 2010 4:01 am

Clawhammer wrote:I reckon I can argue that if you mix other (lesser) fibres into the composite...it's is no longer "Carbon Fibre".
You can argue it, but the counter argument would be that, as long as the CF filaments are oriented properly to provide the expected benefit, then the material is a legitimate CF composite. Is 22K gold "gold"? How about 18K gold? Or 14K gold? or 10K gold? From what I understand, just like those "impure" forms of gold, the fiberglass/CF and Kevlar/CF weaves have practical advantages over a CF/CF weave for some applications,. Part of the problem is that the terms "Carbon Fiber" and "CF" have been abused and misused to signify not only the individual fibers, but the yarn, the fabric, composites, and laminates made from those fibers as well. Paul My Personal Website ---- Beginners Guide to Spyderco Collecting ---- Spydiewiki Deplorable :p WTC # 1458 - 1504 - 1508 - Never Forget, Never Forgive! Top Post Reply
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