Evidence That Californians Are Dumb: High School Data

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Evidence that Californians are dumb: high school data

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1. Patience

   According to NAEP 8-th grade scores, California: * ranks 44th in reading * ranks 41th in math

   8 years ago # QUOTE 7 YEA 2 NAY!

2. Nick

   ...That's because half the students out there don't speak English, genius.

   Or, as they say in Los Angeles, no hablo ingles.

   8 years ago # QUOTE 6 YEA 1 NAY!

3. Callahan

   41th

   ?

   8 years ago # QUOTE 4 YEA 4 NAY!

4. Patience

   41th

   ?

   I'm from California

   8 years ago # QUOTE 14 YEA 0 NAY!

5. Dorcas

   41th

   ?

   It's short for "forty oneth". You ESL or something?

   8 years ago # QUOTE 5 YEA 1 NAY!

6. Louise

   I will confirm this. I have taught in several states and currently teach in California. The average of writing ability and knowledge retained from HS government is the lowest among the California group.

   However, the California schools are not as well funded as people assume they are from CA's stereotype as a high-tax, progressive state and have not been since Prop 13 in the 1970s. 1) California is only a high tax state for the upper middle class and super rich. Taxes are fairly low for other groups with the exception of the sales tax. 2) Factor in COLA and school funding is even worse. 3) The teachers and faculty unions tend to support progressive Democrats. Police and corrections unions tend to support moderate Democrats. Pat Brown was the last actual progressive governor, with moderate Democrats and Republicans holding the office since then. Brown was viewed as progressive in the 70s, but not on fiscal issues. The governor has disproportionate influence over the state budget. This means that their has not been a governor that has had the political will to fight for a tax increase to support education. 4) The politics of Prop 98 complicates this also in non-obvious ways that are too complex to get into here, but it makes increasing the proportion of the general going to k-12 fund less palatable.

   8 years ago # QUOTE 6 YEA 3 NAY!

7. Tami

   Cali's still 'murca, ya'll.

   8 years ago # QUOTE 4 YEA 0 NAY!

8. Delbert

   I am originally from California and now work here too. The K-12 system here is such trash. You have families fleeing Los Angeles to the suburbs for the schools, which aren't even good in an absolute sense, just because LAUSD is such trash that anything looks good in comparison.

   8 years ago # QUOTE 7 YEA 2 NAY!

9. Perlie

   Totally driven by racial demographics. The white and Asian students there do fine on those tests.

   8 years ago # QUOTE 5 YEA 1 NAY!

10. Tamsen

    So you admit that unfettered immigration to CA is a problem. Thank you for the clarification. Some of us already knew this so I'm glad you're finally on board. ...That's because half the students out there don't speak English, genius. Or, as they say in Los Angeles, no hablo ingles.

    GO AWAY ALT RIGHT TRASH

    8 years ago # QUOTE 1 YEA 5 NAY!

11. Toria

    Totally driven by racial demographics. The white and Asian students there do fine on those tests.

    I don't know Perlie's motives for posting this but it's true. Ignoring this reality may make us liberals feel good and lets some minorities use their #oppression to put off teaching their kids. What it doesn't do is fix the problem. If poor chinese students can do well and succeed then so can poor hispanic students but we need to tell them that.

    8 years ago # QUOTE 5 YEA 3 NAY!

12. Bilbo

    CA public schools have sucked ever since Prop 13.

    And the UCs have been overrated ever since Duekmejian and Wilson.

    Together, the two trends mean that UC undergrads are truly weak.

    8 years ago # QUOTE 4 YEA 6 NAY!

13. Geena

    Totally driven by racial demographics. The white and Asian students there do fine on those tests.

    I don't know Perlie's motives for posting this but it's true. Ignoring this reality may make us liberals feel good and lets some minorities use their #oppression to put off teaching their kids. What it doesn't do is fix the problem. If poor chinese students can do well and succeed then so can poor hispanic students but we need to tell them that.

    Hollywood can make a movie about it. Oh, wait, they already did that, 30 years ago.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stand_and_Deliver

    8 years ago # QUOTE 2 YEA 0 NAY!

14. Maureen

    Hollywood can make a movie about it. Oh, wait, they already did that, 30 years ago. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stand_and_Deliver

    Ha! Love this. Stories like this become part of the culture so minority parents can think "my kids needs a teacher like this" (not my problem), students can think "i need a great teacher like this" (not my problem), white teachers can think "we need some of these ethnics to inspire the kids" (not my problem), and minority teachers can role-play 'sacrificial teacher who saves these kids from lives of despair' but can't actually do calculus so yells at them. Good on the real Escalante, probably one of the few who actually tried.

    8 years ago # QUOTE 1 YEA 1 NAY!

15. Frank

    CA public schools have sucked ever since Prop 13.

    +1. With proper funding mechanisms I bet the CA schools would rebound. But from my CSU I stand in continual amazement at how terrible the K12 system is here... and I'm from the South.

    8 years ago # QUOTE 3 YEA 1 NAY!

16. Louis

    Data like this are useless if not broken down by race.

    https://nces.ed.gov/nationsreportcard/subject/publications/stt2015/pdf/2016009CA8.pdf https://nces.ed.gov/nationsreportcard/subject/publications/stt2015/pdf/2016008CA8.pdf

    Percentage of students by race: White 25% Asian 12% Black 7% Hispanic 53% Multiracial and Native and other 3%

    Math scores:

    White 291 Asian 304 Black 260 Hispanic 263 State average: 275

    Reading scores:

    White 274 Asian 279 Black 248 Hispanic 249 State average: 259

    8 years ago # QUOTE 2 YEA 0 NAY!

17. Louis

    All groups better in MA and, wait for it, TX though:

    https://nces.ed.gov/nationsreportcard/subject/publications/stt2015/pdf/2016009TX8.pdf

    8 years ago # QUOTE 1 YEA 1 NAY!

18. Bradley

    Are private schools counted in NAEP?

    8 years ago # QUOTE 1 YEA 1 NAY!

19. Natalie

    This all you need to know:

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/0/0c/IQ_and_Global_Inequality.svg/700px-IQ_and_Global_Inequality.svg.png

    8 years ago # QUOTE 1 YEA 2 NAY!

20. Bradley

    that's a hatethought

    This all you need to know: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/0/0c/IQ_and_Global_Inequality.svg/700px-IQ_and_Global_Inequality.svg.png

    8 years ago # QUOTE 2 YEA 2 NAY!

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