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- Thread starter Thread starter PrinceofPein
- Start date Start date Apr 13, 2022
- Tags Tags arthur boyle benimaru shinmon enen no shouboutai fire force shinra
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PrinceofPein
Username Only Messages 9,303 Reaction score 6,354 I decided make this a CRT so we can avoid future problems and get things done step by step, so as not to cluster up future threads and also this is supposed to be simple SECTION A CHARACTERS THAT DONT HAVE PROFILES YET THAT WILL BE GETTING ONE. 1. Arrow 2. Assault 3. Dragon 4. Evangelist 5. Faerie 6. Giovanni 7. God 8. Inca 9. Iris 10. Konro 11. Nataku son 12. Ogun 13. Kurono 14. Juggernaut 15. Hibachi Shinmon SECTION B (scaling chain) This is simple, this is deciding who scales to who and who will end up scaling to what feat, and there are some controversial ones so I will put the reasons in front. LOW TIERS 1. Iris 2. Inca 3. Giovanni 4. Konro 5. Karim flam (tbh I prefer if his profile will be deleted) MID TIERS 1. Arrow (could match hinamawa) 2. Assault (could one shot hinamawa, maki and Obi) 3. Maki 4. Hinamawa 5. Juggernaut 6. Captain Obi 7. Nataku son 8. Charon 9. Ogun HIGH TIERS 1. Dragon 2. Faerie (could increase the moon’s mass to be equal to earth’s mass) 3. Arthur 4. Joker (considered to be one of the strongest of mankind just like his doppelgänger) 5. Captain burns (could one shot joker’s doppelgänger that could defeat joker and also considered to be one of humanity strongest) GOD TIERS 1. Benimaru (one shotted his own doppelgänger that could have destroyed earth with his Nichirin and considered the doppelgänger too weak) 2. Hibachi shinmon (could fight Benimaru) 3. Kurono (considered as someone who is strong enough to fight Benimaru and could fight Benimaru doppelgänger and take hits from him without been able to use his power) 4. Sho (one shotted Faerie and also could take hits from Haumea) 5. Shinra (he is the protagonist, cope) 6. Haumea 7. God(he is God) Well that’s the scaling chain and who will scale to who. This thread is not to discuss the feats in question, it is to discuss the scaling chain so feel free to bring your agreement and disagreement and addition and subtractions. N.B. None of the Doppelgängers should be getting their own profiles except hibachi since his only appearance was as a doppelgänger, the rest get a key for their doppelgängers
Majinere566
Messages 5,394 Reaction score 4,631 Does Giovanni really need a profile I hate that guy so much PrinceofPein
Username Only Messages 9,303 Reaction score 6,354 I’m trying to upload some scans, so I will switch them out in the OP when I do Majinere566
Messages 5,394 Reaction score 4,631 Also the statement about kurono being considered as someone as strong as benimaru shouldn't be used in my opinion
Dalesean027
He/Him VS Battles Thread Moderator Calculation Group Messages 20,793 Reaction score 33,930 Following PrinceofPein
Username Only Messages 9,303 Reaction score 6,354Majinere566 said: Also the statement about kurono being considered as someone as strong as benimaru shouldn't be used in my opinion Click to expand...And he has feats to back up the statement so yes that statement can be used.
Alexander
Messages 12,499 Reaction score 4,443 god is what is called adolla or the evangelist, and shinra banshoman, who is sho and his mother together Majinere566
Messages 5,394 Reaction score 4,631Pain_to12 said: And he has feats to back up the statement so yes that statement can be used. Click to expand...Didn't he get outclassed and himself commenting on how the comparisons between benimaru was ridiculous?
DemonGodMitchAubin
He/Him VS Battles Retired Messages 15,569 Reaction score 15,920 Faerie (Large Planet level)<Post-Catalyst Base Shinra<=Dragon=Arthur<Doppel Benimaru<<<Benimaru<Evangelist<God Haumea<<<Shinrabanshomon All I have to say PrinceofPein
Username Only Messages 9,303 Reaction score 6,354Alexander said: god is what is called adolla or the evangelist, and shinra banshoman, who is sho and his mother together Click to expand...NO
Alexander
Messages 12,499 Reaction score 4,443Pain_to12 said: NO Click to expand...why didn't you say death? that's what it is, death, also shinra is more powerful than him, or at least as powerful as him,becauseliterally shinra gave him his physical form and he gave him his powers, and shinra used only a part of his powers, he didn't even fight seriously
PrinceofPein
Username Only Messages 9,303 Reaction score 6,354Majinere566 said: Didn't he get outclassed and himself commenting on how the comparisons between benimaru was ridiculous? Click to expand...Because he could not use his own powers that’s why and that does not change the fact that he took hits from a 5B, you don’t take hits from someone unless you scale
DemonGodMitchAubin said: Faerie (Large Planet level)<Post-Catalyst Base Shinra<=Dragon=Arthur<Doppel Benimaru<<<Benimaru<Evangelist<God Haumea<<<Shinrabanshomon All I have to say Click to expand...Thanks this is accurate asf
Majinere566
Messages 5,394 Reaction score 4,631Pain_to12 said: Because he could not use his own powers that’s why and that does not change the fact that he took hits from a 5B, you don’t take hits from someone unless you scale Click to expand...So he got 5-B durability, I gotta re read the chapters again to better understand the context
PrinceofPein
Username Only Messages 9,303 Reaction score 6,354Alexander said: why didn't you say death? that's what it is, death, also shinra is more powerful than him, or at least as powerful as him Click to expand...He was called God and that’s why shinra called him He was created by shinra and not through the evangelist, despair or through shinrabanshoman. So I am just saying this statement of your is wrong
Alexander said: god is what is called adolla or the evangelist, and shinra banshoman, who is sho and his mother together Click to expand...
PrinceofPein
Username Only Messages 9,303 Reaction score 6,354Majinere566 said: So he got 5-B durability, I gotta re read the chapters again to better understand the context Click to expand...And AP
Damage3245
He/Him VS Battles Administrator Calculation Group Messages 34,213 Reaction score 33,940 Will look into this soon. Majinere566
Messages 5,394 Reaction score 4,631Pain_to12 said: And AP Click to expand...Why would his Durability translate to his AP?
Cyberblader90
Messages 5,735 Reaction score 4,987 i dont agree with casual attacks from beni's doppelganger being 5-b. He has to go all out to be 5-b Alexander
Messages 12,499 Reaction score 4,443 And why is God more powerful than his creator? Cyberblader90
Messages 5,735 Reaction score 4,987 im all for god/death being 5-b or higher. I was actually planning a crt for it at some point Alexander
Messages 12,499 Reaction score 4,443Cyberblader90 said: im all for god/death being 5-b or higher. I was actually planning a crt for it at some point Click to expand...and why you don't make it?
Cyberblader90
Messages 5,735 Reaction score 4,987 been super busy as of late im still months behind on shaman king revisions tbh PrinceofPein
Username Only Messages 9,303 Reaction score 6,354Cyberblader90 said: i dont agree with casual attacks from beni's doppelganger being 5-b. He has to go all out to be 5-b Click to expand...He is most likely higher than 5B but that would be for AP thread. This is to determine who scales And Kurono scales He could not use his ability either for defense or offense and he could still take hits from Beni 2, so that’s that
Arc7Kuroi
Messages 20,349 Reaction score 30,625 In the same boat of, will check this out soon, a little busy atm.
PowerToScale
Messages 2,785 Reaction score 1,615 My current idea of how god tier scaling would go (Not everyone): Faerie: 5-B (Moon drop feat). Base Dragon | Armored Dragon At Least High 6-A, likely Higher (Survived Charon’s blast without any injury, which is stronger than the moon crater one. Called a continent Splitter) | At least 5-B, likely Higher (Should be stronger than Faerie and his loss is considered impossible to imagine by Faerie himself) Base Arthur (Post game training) | Star Ring Arthur At Least High 6-A, likely Higher could damage and match Base Dragon) | At least 5-B, likely Higher (Matched and eventually beat Armoured Dragon). Benimaru At least 5-B, likely far Higher (Is considered the strongest, one shot his doppleganger, which is born from all the thoughts of humanity's idea of the strongest being, states that humanity's idea of the strongest is weaker than he is). Base Shinra | Shinrabanshimon 5-B (Stopped moon drop feat) | At least 5-B, likely far Higher (More powerful than Hanmua (Evangelist fused), reverted the earth back to normal) Hanmua (Evangelist fused) At least 5-B, likely far Higher (stronger than Benimaru and set the world ablaze creating a “second star”) Sho At least 5-B (Could keep up with Base Shinra, beat Faerie) Dalesean027
He/Him VS Battles Thread Moderator Calculation Group Messages 20,793 Reaction score 33,930DemonGodMitchAubin said: Faerie (Large Planet level)<Post-Catalyst Base Shinra<=Dragon=Arthur<Doppel Benimaru<<<Benimaru<Evangelist<God Haumea<<<Shinrabanshomon All I have to say Click to expand...
PowerToScale said: My current idea of how god tier scaling would go (Not everyone): Faerie: 5-B (Moon drop feat). Base Dragon | Armored Dragon At Least High 6-A, likely Higher (Survived Charon’s blast without any injury, which is stronger than the moon crater one. Called a continent Splitter) | At least 5-B, likely Higher (Should be stronger than Faerie and his loss is considered impossible to imagine by Faerie himself) Base Arthur (Post game training) | Star Ring Arthur At Least High 6-A, likely Higher could damage and match Base Dragon) | At least 5-B, likely Higher (Matched and eventually beat Armoured Dragon). Benimaru At least 5-B, likely far Higher (Is considered the strongest, one shot his doppleganger, which is born from all the thoughts of humanity's idea of the strongest being, states that humanity's idea of the strongest is weaker than he is). Base Shinra | Shinrabanshimon 5-B (Stopped moon drop feat) | At least 5-B, likely far Higher (More powerful than Hanmua (Evangelist fused), reverted the earth back to normal) Hanmua (Evangelist fused) At least 5-B, likely far Higher (stronger than Benimaru and set the world ablaze creating a “second star”) Sho At least 5-B (Could keep up with Base Shinra, beat Faerie) Click to expand...This essentially says it all tbh without going even further into things
Quangotjokes
Messages 8,037 Reaction score 4,064 The scaling seems fine but I'm iffy on Hibachi Shinmon as he got oneshotted by Beni once he stopped holding back. Quangotjokes
Messages 8,037 Reaction score 4,064 Actually Kurono shouldn't scale to Beni either. Damage3245
He/Him VS Battles Administrator Calculation Group Messages 34,213 Reaction score 33,940Sho At least 5-B (Could keep up with Base Shinra, beat Faerie) Click to expand...Not so sure that Sho should be scaling to 5-B. Faerie doesn't have 5-B durability, and I'd need to see feats of Sho being comparable to Shinra in AP.
Majinere566
Messages 5,394 Reaction score 4,631 Can anyone Link the 5-B calc? Dalesean027
He/Him VS Battles Thread Moderator Calculation Group Messages 20,793 Reaction score 33,930Majinere566 said: Can anyone Link the 5-B calc? Click to expand...It's in the discussion thread I linked it there recently
Alexander
Messages 12,499 Reaction score 4,443Majinere566 said: Can anyone Link the 5-B calc? Click to expand...practically 5-B is shinra kicking the moon, it takes a lot of energy to return the moon (more to return it than to make it fall)
Majinere566
Messages 5,394 Reaction score 4,631Alexander said: practically 5-B is shinra kicking the moon, it takes a lot of energy to return the moon (more to return it than to make it fall) Click to expand...Yeah but you got the link to the calc?
PrinceofPein
Username Only Messages 9,303 Reaction score 6,354Quangotjokes said: Actually Kurono shouldn't scale to Beni either. Click to expand...You will need to state reasons for this
Damage3245 said: Not so sure that Sho should be scaling to 5-B. Faerie doesn't have 5-B durability, and I'd need to see feats of Sho being comparable to Shinra in AP. Click to expand...I don’t really Care about the value or rating but Sho could one shot faerie so he scales far above faerie And sho and shinra never fought or anything like that but sho fought Haumea and took lots of hits from her.
Majinere566
Messages 5,394 Reaction score 4,631 I just checked the calc why is the distance between Moon and Earth 8087.76084529km I thought it was 384,400 km? Alexander
Messages 12,499 Reaction score 4,443 here the calc Alexander
Messages 12,499 Reaction score 4,443Majinere566 said: I just checked the calc why is the distance between Moon and Earth 8087.76084529km I thought it was 384,400 km? Click to expand...error
Arc7Kuroi
Messages 20,349 Reaction score 30,625Majinere566 said: I just checked the calc why is the distance between Moon and Earth 8087.76084529km I thought it was 384,400 km? Click to expand...Distance was pixel scales iirc.
Alexander
Messages 12,499 Reaction score 4,443Arc7Kuroi said: Distance was pixel scales iirc. Click to expand...who invented that it was so close?
Quangotjokes
Messages 8,037 Reaction score 4,064Pain_to12 said: You will need to state reasons for this Click to expand...It was completely one sided. Kronos did nothing to warrant him scaling.
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