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Tightwad T Anyone want to explain the proper way to grip a small.pistol? I have had a Ruger EC9S 9mm laying.around.for.a few years that I've decided to try to come to terms with. When I grip the pistol in a thumbs forward hold with heel properly seated, wrist properly cammed and index finger hard up against the trigger guard I end up with my support hand thumb an 1/8" past the end of the muzzle, my hand way up on the slide and the slide lock buried under the heel.of.my hand. Obviously this isn't going to work. It looks.like a thumb over thumb revolver grip would work to eliminate control interference but it doesn't feel like I'm getting much purchase or would.have decent recoil recovery with that method. My grip doesn't.feel secure due to tiny little grip. Honestly I can operate my LCP without a problem (mainly because the slide lock is so.buried) but the same method on the EC9S will likely lock the slide back on every shot. Ideas? #1 · Jul 8, 2021 Anyone want to explain the proper way to grip a small.pistol? I have had a Ruger EC9S 9mm laying.around.for.a few years that I've decided to try to come to terms with. When I grip the pistol in a thumbs forward hold with heel properly seated, wrist properly cammed and index finger hard up against the trigger guard I end up with my support hand thumb an 1/8" past the end of the muzzle, my hand way up on the slide and the slide lock buried under the heel.of.my hand. Obviously this isn't going to work. It looks.like a thumb over thumb revolver grip would work to eliminate control interference but it doesn't feel like I'm getting much purchase or would.have decent recoil recovery with that method. My grip doesn't.feel secure due to tiny little grip. Honestly I can operate my LCP without a problem (mainly because the slide lock is so.buried) but the same method on the EC9S will likely lock the slide back on every shot. Ideas? Sort by Oldest first Oldest first Newest first Most reactions #2 · Jul 8, 2021 The only thing I can say for sure without seeing what it looks like, is you definitely don’t want your thumb extending past the muzzle…no..no….NO! #3 · Jul 8, 2021 I've been playing around and the best I've found so far is this: Lower support hand until lower heel passes under the butt. Rotate (Cam) Wrist as normal and use the Ayoob Wedge Grip. This MAY give me enough clearance to avoid the slide lock under recoil. It seems to give me good purchase and potential for recoil control and a nice dead sight when dry firing. My mitts obviously are not designed for a skinny 4.3" tall 9mm not including sights. #4 · Jul 8, 2021 After the first shot, the finger past muzzle problem is solved ! :rolleyes:

#5 · Jul 8, 2021 Well, when in doubt teacup. But you have to extend your pinky #6 · Jul 8, 2021 It is my opinion that you can't wear size 8 shoes iffin you gots size 11 feets. I have, as my grail gun, an expensive custom 1911-style pistol that I use for EDC that Luke Volkmann made. It wears Hogue rubber palm swell grips and I love them. My hands are not particularly large, but elegantly slender grip surfaces on a defensive tool makes it too awkward for me to accurately and comfortably shoot. This is why I opted to use palm swell grips. Shooting a small gun requires some sacrifices on gripping and shooting on my part. I have to modify my grip somewhat while shooting my Sig P365 plain Jane using two hands, so I practice a lot of one-handed shooting with it. The real problem child using two hands, very carefully, is my S&W 342 Airlite Ti. For that one, I use only the thumb-over-thumb hold and blast away. Thumbs-forward and I'm real nervous about the cylinder gap, so I fold them down. I'm sure you'll find a way to make your pistol work out for you. With enough practice, you'll have a smooth habit of gripping and shooting. Ask a shooting buddy, if you have one, to shoot it and look to see how how he/she/? holds and shoots it. It might be illustrative. #7 · Jul 9, 2021 There is not a one-size-fits-all answer. Depends on the pistol and the shooters hand size. Regardless, remember the rules of safety? Never cover anything with the muzzle you do not intend to destroy. This includes fingers of which the thumb is one such appendage. #8 · Jul 9, 2021 I have no intention of firing with the thumb past the muzzle (I did say "obviously that isn't going to work"). I think I've found a couple of alternatives that seem to have the pistol locked down pretty well for recoil recovery and have nice dead sights when dry firing. I'll try them this weekend. #9 · Jul 9, 2021 I shoot everything with a thumb over thumb revolver grip. Keeps digits away from reciprocating metal, hot gases, and controls. Works with all guns, large and small. Also works with everything...revolvers and semis. Lastly, requires no repositioning of the shooting hand when going from two to one handed shooting, or vice versa. I never used the thumbs high grip that is so tacticool nowadays. The purported advantages are not worth the disadvantages, to me. Good luck! #10 · Jul 9, 2021 afraid you will just have to find your own way......too many variables. once you find a style/hold you can use.....repetition, repetition, repetition.... #11 · Jul 10, 2021 Retired Deputy is right, you have to just learn and practice. You may have to add grip tape or a grip sleeve, I had to if I want to shoot a LCP or LCPII or BG380. Or use your non dominant hand in a non traditional manner, or just shit it one handed. Make it yours and shoot it a lot. Lefty #12 · Jul 10, 2021 The small semi-auto pistols can be difficult. My hands are not particularly large but I have long fingers. Because of my many years of shooting the 1911 and Browning Hi Power pistols I have developed a habit of taking a high grip. On the smaller pistols (Walther PP, PPK, Sig P230, and a few others that have come my way) this can result in the slide slicing into the meat of the web of my hand as the pistol cycles. Much more difficult to shoot well while bleeding, and holding a good sight picture is challenging while crying like a little girl. I have learned to be careful about my grip when shooting the smaller pistols, and generally avoid doing so because of my lack of comfort in handling them. Additional training and practice might help me overcome my reluctance, but I have not committed the time or effort. Insert Quotes Post Reply

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