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Commander - Griselbrand, Sundering Titan BANNED; Worldfire under inspection

Griselbrand is BANNEDSundering Titan is BANNEDNo other changes

Griselbrand was relatively simple choice. We knew all along it was pretty busted. While we had a glimmer of hope that the batch-of-7 card draw would help mitigate the obvious problem of a player being able to draw so many cards immediately (like Yawgmoth’s Bargain, unlike Necropotence), it simply didn’t. Griselbrand’s Lifelink ability, allowing you more resources to draw cards with, coupled with being a creature and therefore easier to get into play (not to mention repeatedly) for far less than his mana cost, led to quite degenerate game states.Sundering Titan has long been a card on the edge. The decision to get rid of it came from the combination of two points. One, it simply created undesirable game states. It was too easily both intentionally abused and unintentionally game-warping, especially since its ability triggers on both entering and leaving the battlefield. Two, there has been a fair amount of community distaste for the card, and we agreed that the card overwhelmingly creates a negative experience for players. Listening to the ever-growing and ever more-involved community is important to us.There’s an M13 card—Worldfire—that’s been generating some talk. We’re going to keep a close eye on the card after its release to look at its impact and potential impact on the format, but there’s no reason to panic and pre-ban it. Banning cards is about what they do, not about what they might do, so like we did with Griselbrand, and despite what we see as a likely outcome, we’d like to see some evidence of it first.As a side note, remember that there is ongoing Kokusho testing, so no decision will be made on it until the September update, at the earliest.

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1. dawritowins liked this
2. calvinsabamf answered: On the mtg gather web site it says Griselbrand is legal
3. thesuperduperlesbian answered: magiccards.info is out of date, mtgcommander.net/Forum/v…
4. mindofrandomness liked this
5. dudardfistofkrosa-blog reblogged this from mtgfan and added:

   Yaaaaay! I approve of all this!

6. addictedtoedh reblogged this from mtgfan and added:

   I’m not too surprised at either of these getting banned. Griselbrand is very powerful and I’m sure that there are plenty...

7. theodorestephen-blog answered: Do people actually use Wizard’s ban list? My group has always used house bans, EDH is a house rules format, you WotC fascists! D:<
8. acolddeath reblogged this from vedalkenghurl and added:

   magiccards.info still says its legal in all formats

9. theonlymedic reblogged this from vedalkenghurl
10. ketchakik reblogged this from vedalkenghurl and added:

    kinda saw this comming

11. thepowerofthedarkside-blog answered: I know, I was so choked. It’s all those stupid try hard’s making it not fun to play against. Sigh oh well my friends will let me use him :)
12. vedalkenghurl reblogged this from mtgfan and added:

    NOT MY GRIZZLYBRAND! NOOOOOOOO!

13. hablup reblogged this from hardwired-artificer and added:

    Kinda sad Griselbrand is banned. I LOVED him. Thankfully I didn’t go out of my way to get one for EDH though xD AND...

14. chatty-protagonist answered: Nothing mindblowning, but good decisions all around.
15. theclumsydonut liked this
16. marzatumbls answered: Now I don’t have to use all of my removal spells on Griselbrand!
17. thefiveelementsofmagic-blog reblogged this from themirrormatch
18. themirrormatch reblogged this from magicjunkie-blog
19. pocketfulofgeek reblogged this from mtgfan and added:

    If they ban Worldfire I will be very dissapointed. Mono-red has barely anything big and swingy for itself, I personally...

20. pocketfulofgeek liked this
21. brotherjames-blog liked this
22. kreuzader answered: All I can say is lol
23. magicjunkie-blog reblogged this from mtgfan and added:

    Saw this coming. We had one game with Griselbrand. That’s how long it took us to figure out that this shit won’t fly. As...

24. dorkening reblogged this from mtgfan and added:

    Woooooooooo! Fuck Griselbrand, get that shit out of your Kaalia, Skylar. Also, eagerly awaiting the news on Kokusho…

25. spinningponcho liked this
26. slagethor answered: No surprise about Sundering Titan, or Grisselbrand, I think Worldfire will probably end up banned, which sucks because I wanted to use it
27. berubear liked this
28. ladymtg reblogged this from mtgfan
29. clothinthesand answered: Sounds good to me. Grislebrand created too many situation that granted drawing 7 for free. That’s too much advantage for a lone card.
30. from-rachel-with-love answered: Not surprised.
31. e46archive-blog liked this
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