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p.1 #1 · How tight do you tighten your tripod plates, etc?
I constantly find my self having to re-tighten the screws for my tripod plates and am wondering if that is just the way it is, or if they should be tighter to start off with or if it's just a bad plate. I just use entry level manfrotto stuff as I rarely have the need for a tripod. Are RRS plates and brackets substantially better in this regard? Side question, has anyone tried to use Loktite on the screw for their Battery Grip?Edited on Apr 08, 2014 at 02:44 PM · View previous versions
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p.1 #2 · How tight do you tighten your tripod plates, etc?
I would definitely look for a plate with front and back lip with the correct measurements for your 5Dmk3 if you're experiencing that issue. I've been using RRS L-brackets with all versions of the 5D and have never had an issue with plate movement with them.
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p.1 #3 · How tight do you tighten your tripod plates, etc?
Not sure I understand. Do you mean tightening the screw from the plate to the camera? I use RRS (with a hex wrench) and they tighten up. I have never had one loosen on me. The RRS are fitted to the bottom of the camera, so they do not twist. I also have a generic rail for one camera (I was too cheap for RRS then). It tends to twist and loosen. Or, are you talking about the rail not fitting tightly into the clamp? The RRS stuff clamps together well, and I never have had a problem. The generic rail clamps well into the RRS screw-type clamp, but does not grip at all with the quick release clamp. DId this answer your question? Are the screws themselves are getting loose? I have an Acratech ballhead. I put a few drops of Loktite on the thread, problem solved. There are different types of Loktite, depending if you want permanent, semi-permanent, etc. I probably could have used it with the generic rail, but I like taking the rail off to make the camera smaller when I do not need the tripod.
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p.1 #4 · How tight do you tighten your tripod plates, etc?
To clarify, I'm talking about the screw from the plate into the camera. There is nothing stoping my plate from twisting as it's flat and doesn't have a lip. I can definitely see a form-fitting plate with a lip (ie. RRS) holding a lot better as it can't rotate at all. I might try and use some loktite, pretty sure I have some in the garage some where :P Or if that fails, I might just have to upgrade to a RRS system.
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p.1 #5 · How tight do you tighten your tripod plates, etc?
Summary wrote: ... upgrade to a RRS system. (or Hejnar, or ...)
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p.1 #6 · How tight do you tighten your tripod plates, etc?
For me, the difference between a generic plate and an RRS plate for my 6D was all of $20. Best extra $20 I could have spent, thing's stayed glued solidly to the camera since it was installed.
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p.1 #7 · How tight do you tighten your tripod plates, etc?
I do not have an issue with plates loosening. I use arca-swiss type plates of the generic Chinese variety.... after all, its just a chunk of aluminum not worth anywhere near what the likes of Kirk and Wimberley want for them them..... I place a thin, rubbery cushion between the plate and the camera or lens foot to insure tightness and prevent metal-to-metal contact. The suff is available at art stores in the form of an adhesive tape. Loktite on the battery grip? I've been using grips since the Canon A2 (film, mid-1990s) and never had an issue with this. I would not recommend anything "liquidy" and "sticky" being applied to any camera gear. Do you keep your equipment somewhere where there is a lot of vibration like the cab of a semi truck or an airplane? You seem to have more than the "normal" amount of screw-loosening issues.
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p.1 #8 · How tight do you tighten your tripod plates, etc?
Upgrade to a RRS plate (or perhaps one of its competitors). Problem solved.
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p.1 #9 · How tight do you tighten your tripod plates, etc?
You only want to snug them up lest you strip the threads. But, yes, a fitted plate for you model of camera is the way to go. I have fitted plates or L-plate for my cameras from RRS, Promedia and Sunwayfoto and they all worked equally well: tough, no twisting and good looking. I wouldn't put Loktite on the threads. If you don't want to buy a fitted plate, install a think neoprene mat on the plate to give it a little more grip.
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p.1 #10 · How tight do you tighten your tripod plates, etc?
pKai wrote: Loktite on the battery grip? I've been using grips since the Canon A2 (film, mid-1990s) and never had an issue with this. I would not recommend anything "liquidy" and "sticky" being applied to any camera gear. I always have to tighten battery grips continually during a shoot. If I'm shooting a full day wedding I will have to tighten the grip no fewer than 5 times throughout the day.
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p.1 #11 · How tight do you tighten your tripod plates, etc?
Like the OP (apparently), I don't use Arca-Swiss style grooved rail mounting system. I use Manfrotto quick release hex plates, which work fine in the horizontal position. But in turning the head to vertical (surely you folks all remember this!), unless the screw in the QR plate is quite tight, some rotational slippage can occur. I'm pretty good after all these years at assessing how much torque to apply to keep the camera, spotting scope or other attachments from slipping in normal use. To answer the OP's questions: For attaching QR plates to camera bases, use some care not to over tighten or you may damage the base of the camera. Tighten the screw until your feel it is tight, then use your hands to try to turn the plate. If it budges at all, you need to apply a bit more torque until is it firm. Some plates are more likely to slip. If made from a hard, smooth material (even a hard rubber), it will slip more easily than a plate that is faced with patterns such as ridges or other 3D pattern. For attaching battery grips -- extreme care must be taken to NOT apply excessive torque. You can easily bust through the top of the accessory grip, causing a severe problem with some camera models (Nikon is particularly susceptible to breakage, even the OEM parts). While the QR plate and camera base can tolerate a good amount of torque, the battery grip cannot. Usually the grips are made with side flanges contoured to the camera body to prevent rotation. Back to QR camera mounts: if you have one that is prone to rotation, you can purchase an extra plate and build on a mated top surface from several quick set polymers or epoxy-like compounds. A release agent will be needed and perhaps a thin mask (Glad Wrap, etc). Then you'll have a simple, custom fit mount plate. To summarize: Less care needs be taken with mounting plates or quick release plates than battery grips. Tighten slowly and carefully until either is just secure, and leave it at that. Don't over tighten or you risk damaging the camera and/or battery grip. PS -- Just read your last note -- you are not tightening the battery grip enough. Mine (Canon and Nikon) never come loose. There is always a tiny amount of flex in these connection, but no loosening should occur. Sounds like you are being too gentle. Hope this helps answer your questions. Good luck! Edited on Apr 08, 2014 at 04:56 PM · View previous versions
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p.1 #12 · How tight do you tighten your tripod plates, etc?
Awesome, thanks Gunzorro for the input. It sounds like I might not be tightening the screws enough - I will give the screws an extra quarter or half turn and see how that fairs. Baring any miracles though I think there might be some RRS's in my future. Edit: Just read your edit to your last post about my last post :P I'm just overly cautious I guess, I think I must have stripped a screw in my childhood and it scared me for life apparently. The battery grips are solid, but they are still cheap plastic compared to the bodies...
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p.1 #13 · How tight do you tighten your tripod plates, etc?
I always carry a "Dugong" in my bag. No loose nuts tolerated on my gears.Edited on May 11, 2014 at 09:39 PM · View previous versions
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p.1 #14 · How tight do you tighten your tripod plates, etc?
Summary -- Terrific, glad that addresses your question. I find it pretty simple to tighten the finger-turn screw on battery grips. I'm a pretty big guy, but I've never cracked or broken one. You can tighten it down pretty hard, but if you hear it "crack" even slightly, stop! My method is to tighten to what seems a good point, then put light rotational force on the grip, back and forth, back and forth to see if there is any remaining play in it. If it flexes or "creaks" against the camera base, continue tightening until all possible movement is gone. Doing this in careful, but firm, stages should solve your issue without damaging the gear. You may have an Arca-Swiss mount system in your future! I found it impractical/expensive for my needs, but it is extremely popular system for many photographers here.
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p.1 #15 · How tight do you tighten your tripod plates, etc?
PetKal wrote: I always carry a "Dugong" in my bag. No loose nuts tolerated on my gears. Peter, Is that the "L" version
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p.1 #16 · How tight do you tighten your tripod plates, etc?
One thing almost no one knows or mentions is that the threads on most camera's plates is not a 1/4 -20, which is what most screws are in the plates sold in the USA. If you have a 1/4-20 bolt you can see the play when you screw it to a camera, this is obvious when you can see both the screw and the hole, but when the screw is in the middle of a plate is hard to see how it fits. I've never bothered to find out what is the right metric size for those threads, but that is one of the reasons some plates will get loose.
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p.1 #17 · How tight do you tighten your tripod plates, etc?
Once your system is sorted you might consider a drop of blue Loctite - then just leave it alone - shoot and be happy. 'How tight' is very subjective without a torque wrench to measure but I 'hand' tighten my plates until they are definitely snug but in no danger of splitting plastic or stripping threads.
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p.1 #18 · How tight do you tighten your tripod plates, etc?
krementz wrote: There are different types of Loktite, depending if you want permanent, semi-permanent, etc. I probably could have used it with the generic rail, but I like taking the rail off to make the camera smaller when I do not need the tripod. ____________ Get the Loktite with the blue label.
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p.1 #19 · How tight do you tighten your tripod plates, etc?
I have had the screw loosen from the plate but only because I did not tighten it enough with a coin and should have used an allen key. I have noticed this when I thought i loosened the ball head knob to notice the plate was moving under the camera and not the ball head...oops. A quick tighten with allen and issue fixed. As others have noted, a thin layer of material between plate and body works great for retention and helps avoid marring or scratching the body I have never had my Canon grip for 5dIII loosen and its been on for months. I do check it from time to time and its always tight. Is yours 3rd party? I personally wouldn't use loktite on a body, grip or lens mount but do use loktite on tripod clamps
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p.1 #20 · How tight do you tighten your tripod plates, etc?
I think RRS is grossly over priced. Use a drop of loctite. It won't hurt anything. Use the semi permanent. Depending on your brand of loctite it will be a different color or.maybe have a different name. "Medium" is what you want.
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