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Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by musical74, May 20, 2018.

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WilliamZ Phantasmal Quasar

Mahlorie said: ↑
Wait...when you sell things in the bin, is that the same as selling them to Pierre? Or do people physically go to Pierre and sell their crops to him?Click to expand...
You can sell your products to him directly, the only downside is that it doesn't count for the shipping achievement. musical74 said: ↑
I like the analogy to Walmart - I live close to one where small businesses would LOVE to kick it out, and that particular store has a bad rep for being rather uncaring about customers and good luck trying to find things (but the prices are good!) Personally I always thought Caroline didn't have the knowhow to help run the store - plus she runs the aerobics get-together. Abby is probably the age where she dislikes her Dad - most teens aren't thrilled with their parents - but she does mention helping out her Dad from time to time. The thing that seems to divide people on Pierre is how money-centric he is - but after seeing the cutscene where Morris waltzes into Pierre's shop and steals Pierre's customers by throwing coupons around and mentioning low low prices, then rather arrogantly telling Pierre "too bad" makes me hard to dislike Pierre outright...Click to expand...
I would love to see Abigail or Caroline on the counter sometimes, while Pierre is walking around the town.
WilliamZ, May 24, 2018 #41
Sventex Pangalactic Porcupine

Borodin said: ↑
Lewis buys everything you sell, not Pierre. Where is Lewis getting the money? There's evil work afoot!Click to expand...
You can sell your products at Pierre's directly. The advantage of this is that you get your cash the same day as your harvest. Useful if your in a hurry to buy something like the next batch of seeds or something from the traveling cart. But it's like making a deal with the devil since some of the goods you sell him will end up for sale and he'll start taking credit for your products.
Sventex, May 24, 2018 #42
Borodin Oxygen Tank

Sventex said: ↑
You can sell your products at Pierre's directly. The advantage of this is that you get your cash the same day as your harvest. Useful if your in a hurry to buy something like the next batch of seeds or something from the traveling cart. But it's like making a deal with the devil since some of the goods you sell him will end up for sale and he'll start taking credit for your products.Click to expand...
I wonder if anybody has checked to see if Pierre will offer products for sale you don't produce? That would beg the question, where the hell is he actually growing stuff? Of course, there's always the huge area under the temple, but Cthullu tends to want midnight snacks...
Borodin, May 24, 2018 #43
musical74 Space Kumquat

I know there are some things you can sell only to Marlon - Pierre doesn't apparently like selling swords at his shop! (Or he's afraid Abby will "borrow" it for practice...) Seems to be Pierre will take all produce and farm stuff though. (That may change once the new content becomes official though)
musical74, May 24, 2018 #44
silentgrace7 Poptop Tamer

Hm, he seems to take no offense that I sold out to Joja and married his daughter in roughly the same week, or that I regularly plant grass starter in his store every spring, so I'd declare him pretty chill Honestly though? He just seems like the person who is constantly fighting to keep up. I've questioned where he gets his garange produce before, but then I realized that it doesn't just look good on him as a person, but looks good on his store and his wares during the one event of the year that they get people from I can only guess Zuzu City. He has to make it good. Then, once Morris and Joja is out of the way, he feels the need to keep it going because that's all he's known for years, and there's always the possibility of another Joja-like company threatening to take his customers away again. It's hard to stop and breathe if you've done anything but for so long. Plus, he might even be afraid to, all things considered - he hasn't spent time with his wife and child for who knows how long. What if he's afraid he can't relate to them anymore? But I digress. I'm probably just overthinking things because it's midnight haha.
silentgrace7, May 24, 2018 #45 Zosa and WilliamZ like this.
nevyn21 Cosmic Narwhal

Borodin said: ↑
Lewis buys everything you sell, not Pierre. Where is Lewis getting the money? There's evil work afoot!Click to expand...
Lewis buys everything you place in the shipping bin. You can sell stuff from your inventory in certain shops. Pierre buys about anything, Willy buys fishes for instance.
nevyn21, May 24, 2018 #46
Borodin Oxygen Tank

nevyn21 said: ↑
Lewis buys everything you place in the shipping bin. You can sell stuff from your inventory in certain shops. Pierre buys about anything, Willy buys fishes for instance.Click to expand...
There's quite a bit that Pierre won't buy, including crab pots, wood, any totems, any minerals, stone, monster loot (such as rings and solar essences), any seafood (including fish), etc. Lewis will purchase all of these. Since I get good money for some unneeded minerals and fish can be a *great* source of revenue, I deal exclusively with Lewis. Meaning no slam at Pierre, of course. This still leaves unanswered the question of where all the money to buy everything you sell comes from. Lewis more so than Pierre: where's he getting that enormous supply of gold coin? Perhaps there's a mint under his home, or under Pierre's chapel. Maybe they're in this together.
Last edited: May 24, 2018 Borodin, May 24, 2018 #47
Lilliput Supernova

Borodin said: ↑
There's quite a bit that Pierre won't buy, including crab pots, wood, any totems, any minerals, stone, monster loot (such as rings and solar essences), any seafood (including fish), etc. Lewis will purchase all of these. Since I get good money for some unneeded minerals and fish is a *great* source of revenue, I deal exclusively with Lewis. Meaning no slam at Pierre, of course. This still leaves unanswered the question of where all the money to buy everything you sell comes from. Lewis more so than Pierre: where's he getting that enormous supply of gold coin? Perhaps there's a mint under his home, or under Pierre's chapel.Click to expand...
My impression is that Lewis is not, in fact, buying any of it. He's collecting it, there's a difference. He's probably working with agricultural buyers for the region, who pay him for the aggregate of local produce and artisanal goods and knick-knacks. He takes a small cut, perhaps, for transport, and then cuts you a check for your share. He's more like the town book-keeper than anything else. It's not like he's over-burdened with other responsibilities, after all.
Lilliput, May 24, 2018 #48 Erick648 likes this.
Borodin Oxygen Tank

Lilliput said: ↑
My impression is that Lewis is not, in fact, buying any of it. He's collecting it, there's a difference. He's probably working with agricultural buyers for the region, who pay him for the aggregate of local produce and artisanal goods and knick-knacks. He takes a small cut, perhaps, for transport, and then cuts you a check for your share. He's more like the town book-keeper than anything else. It's not like he's over-burdened with other responsibilities, after all.Click to expand...
I rather like that interpretation, even if it does cut out Cthullu and THDCF (The Hidden Dwarf Colony Factor).
Borodin, May 24, 2018 #49
musical74 Space Kumquat

True, you don't see who actually pays you when it's in the shipping box, just "you get paid X amount". Do wonder about some of the stuff I ship that way, are they going "great, the farmer shipped a bunch of gems, some wood, some stone, trash, driftwood, a bunch of fishing stuff...but no farming things, is this guy really a farmer?" Regarding Pierre, when Wednesdays roll around and the store's closed, what do you think is going on in there? Is he making sure there's enough stuff to sell? Enjoying time with Caroline? Trying to form a bond with Abby? Making sure there's enough gems so that Abby and/or Caroline don't get mad and go all dragon on him? Making sure to give an offering to Cthullu from his profits? Why can't we visit Pierre, Caroline, or Abby inside the shop just to say hi if the shop is closed?
musical74, May 24, 2018 #50
Git Gud Fox Star Wrangler

I always find these questions to be interesting, especially the "is he just misunderstood..." part. Here is what I think. So, every human is motivated by certain basic needs, but our brains have a tendency to prioritize some more than others. We get fixated on specific things that we view as the key to our happiness. Some examples of these are popularity, attractiveness, toughness, money, skill, menace etc. I think the issue with Pierre is that Morris threatens Pierre's fundamental goal which is causing him to double down on his existential plan for happiness and prosperity. I'm not saying that this makes him a better or worse person, but this is my explanation for why Pierre is the way he is. I think he would also still be a money obsessed opportunist even if Morris and Joja weren't in the neighborhood, but he's making it worse. The book he has in his house talking about the Joja threat suggests that he is into corporate conspiracies and the threat of New World Order Plutocratic take overs and what not. Pierre might even perceive himself to be a warrior making a last stand against the advancement of corporate global take over.
Git Gud Fox, May 24, 2018 #51
Sventex Pangalactic Porcupine

Git Gud Fox said: ↑
The book he has in his house talking about the Joja threat suggests that he is into corporate conspiracies and the threat of New World Order Plutocratic take overs and what not. Pierre might even perceive himself to be a warrior making a last stand against the advancement of corporate global take over.Click to expand...
Meanwhile, Gus is feeding the homeless next door with his Saloon and bringing the community together every night for some fun. musical74 said: ↑
True, you don't see who actually pays you when it's in the shipping box, just "you get paid X amount". Do wonder about some of the stuff I ship that way, are they going "great, the farmer shipped a bunch of gems, some wood, some stone, trash, driftwood, a bunch of fishing stuff...but no farming things, is this guy really a farmer?"Click to expand...
I'm just amazed the Lewis can find a buyer for my 2 fresh eggs, the jars of pickled tomatoes, petrified slime, bottles of hot pepper wine, ancient fruit jelly, that used chewing stick I found on the ground, 100 cups of coffee, 3 snails and that chunk of seaweed in just a single night. The man is a pro.
Sventex, May 25, 2018 #52
silentgrace7 Poptop Tamer

I'd imagine at this point he's able to pay you his share immediately, and then find a seller in his own time. After all, if he has enough money to hire Marnie as a stripper flippantly make gold statues of himself, he probably has enough to buy your stuff at "bulk" value upfront and then sell it for a mark up later.
silentgrace7, May 26, 2018 #53 Zosa likes this.
Borodin Oxygen Tank

silentgrace7 said: ↑
I'd imagine at this point he's able to pay you his share immediately, and then find a seller in his own time. After all, if he has enough money to hire Marnie as a stripper flippantly make gold statues of himself, he probably has enough to buy your stuff at "bulk" value upfront and then sell it for a mark up later.Click to expand...
For all that ancient fruit wine lovingly crafted in your greenhouse every season, in bulk? That would make ineffectual old Lewis a billionaire, to have that kind of ready money sitting around. Of course, maybe he is an eccentric billionaire of the Howard Hughes variety. Possibly he even owns a controlling share in Jojo Mart.
Borodin, May 26, 2018 #54
silentgrace7 Poptop Tamer

Borodin said: ↑
For all that ancient fruit wine lovingly crafted in your greenhouse every season, in bulk? That would make ineffectual old Lewis a billionaire, to have that kind of ready money sitting around. Of course, maybe he is an eccentric billionaire of the Howard Hughes variety. Possibly he even owns a controlling share in Jojo Mart.Click to expand...
I mean, all things considered, a solid gold Lewis that's about an average person's height wouldn't come cheap, so I wouldn't be entirely surprised if our old Mayor was a billionaire in his own right (or he's super abusive with town funds and has a bit of his own to work off of).
silentgrace7, May 26, 2018 #55 Astorica likes this.
Lilliput Supernova

silentgrace7 said: ↑
I mean, all things considered, a solid gold Lewis that's about an average person's height wouldn't come cheap, so I wouldn't be entirely surprised if our old Mayor was a billionaire in his own right (or he's super abusive with town funds and has a bit of his own to work off of).Click to expand...
You're thinking in real-world gold values, though! A gold bar in Stardew Valley-- five gold ore melted down into a solid bar-- sells for only 250 g. That's it. That is less than the cost of a single jar of Strawberry Jam in the game.
Lilliput, May 26, 2018 #56 Dakmordian, WilliamZ and parabolic paradise like this.
Stryder87 Giant Laser Beams

Lilliput said: ↑
My impression is that Lewis is not, in fact, buying any of it. He's collecting it, there's a difference. He's probably working with agricultural buyers for the region, who pay him for the aggregate of local produce and artisanal goods and knick-knacks. He takes a small cut, perhaps, for transport, and then cuts you a check for your share. He's more like the town book-keeper than anything else. It's not like he's over-burdened with other responsibilities, after all.Click to expand...
I think I'm going to have to go ahead and agree with this. I generally never sell anything to Pierre, everything goes into the shipping box so I can keep track of how much I'm making. With that said, I still end up seeing things at Pierre's store that I produced, including fish which Pierre won't buy anyway, but somehow he gets.
Stryder87, May 27, 2018 #57
Sventex Pangalactic Porcupine

Lilliput said: ↑
You're thinking in real-world gold values, though! A gold bar in Stardew Valley-- five gold ore melted down into a solid bar-- sells for only 250 g. That's it. That is less than the cost of a single jar of Strawberry Jam in the game.Click to expand...
Lol, gold is so cheap, I could probably build gold brick roads on my farm now that I think on it.
Sventex, May 27, 2018 #58
Lilliput Supernova

Sventex said: ↑
Lol, gold is so cheap, I could probably build gold brick roads on my farm now that I think on it.Click to expand...
I hear the Land of Oz came up with the same idea! (If you think about it, if Lewis was really trying to show off, he'd have built the statue out of Truffles or Truffle Oil and... ...oh my god. )
Lilliput, May 27, 2018 #59 Zosa, WilliamZ and silentgrace7 like this.
musical74 Space Kumquat

We're all forgetting something: how many people are playing this game? If 10,000 play the game and they all ship $1000 worth of stuff, Lewis just became $10 million wealthier I'm curious how you got Pierre to sell fish if he won't take it. Did he make a deal with the traveling cart lady?
musical74, May 27, 2018 #60