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Leaving two same sex pits alone?

Dusty Boots Photography says: Just about every book on pits I've read say's never to leave 2 pits alone in the house especially 2 males. I'm wondering how many have found this advice to be true? We have never had to keep out pits separate. Also the book mention pits should never be taken to off leash parks with other dogs. My dogs go to the park all the time and have never had any problems. Do other pit owners have the same experiences? Why do the books on pitts make it sound like me own time bombs waiting to go off? 12:31PM, 6 June 2008 PDT (permalink)

	Jenn T Photography says: because a responsible owner doesn't put their dog into a situation to be on the front page of every newspaper reading "pit bull attacks child" or "pit bull attacks and kills dog at dog park". Do I personally think they are time bombs... no. Would I let mine off leash in a dog park... NO WAY. She's very well behaved and typically doesn't mind other dogs, but I have to think that IF another dog in the park were to act aggressivly toward her, without a doubt, she would fight back. I think its important to remember that its not always your dog that could be a problem in that situation but you can be sure.... that it will be your dog that gets blamed if something does happen. As far as leaving them alone in a house together unsupervised, I have had friends that have done it and have had no problems. Again, my personal experience i wouldn't leave my dogs together alone when I wasn't home and they were raised together. You know your dogs and the most important part to understand is dont put them into situations that could lead to a potential problem. Prevention is the best option in my opinion. Just my 2 cents. ~J Originally posted ages ago. (permalink) Jenn T Photography edited this topic ages ago.
	taija lynn says: leaving two pits of the same sex alone is A BAD IDEA! 1. the smallest argument between the dogs can turn deadly. and you arnt there to stop it... they could fight over the smallest thing, think a single piece of kibble. all pits have the potential to be time bombs waiting to explode, thats why we pit owners have certain ways we do things, ALL the time. we know our dogs, and we know that they need discipline, supervision, a strong leader and a warm heart. not to mention... pit bulls LOVE to cause a ruckus... think tug of war with your couch cushions ages ago (permalink)
	taija lynn says: "You know your dogs and the most important part to understand is dont put them into situations that could lead to a potential problem. Prevention is the best option in my opinion. " BINGO! ages ago (permalink)
	Dusty Boots Photography says: I guess I've been lucky with my dogs. One is 12 and the other is 14 and we've never had any problems. ages ago (permalink)
	txpitbullgirl says: i also would NEVER leave my dogs alone together. Pit bulls were bred to NOT back down in a fight, and i certainly wouldnt want to take the chance to come home to bloody dogs or even worse... My dogs are too precious to my to even take a CHANCE!! ages ago (permalink)
	taija lynn says: well, every dog has its own personality and temperment. typically its a bad idea, you never know what could set them off. the age of your dogs could have something to do with it too... they are past the "coming of age" and trying to figure out who is boss. do you have two males? two females? or one of each? ages ago (permalink)
	Dusty Boots Photography says: We have 2 males. Got them both from pit bull rescue when they were 7 weeks old. ages ago (permalink)
	jmann40504 says: Leaving two Pit Bulls, of any sex together for any reason is putting your dogs into this position where this could turn into a bad situation. As others have already stated the best advice is tnot put your dogs into this situation in the first place. I always am reminded of the old saying, "An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure" when some asks me this question. Why risk it? The dogs won't mind being separated for a bit. I have two females which some say is the worst combination you can have. I also have a little mixed male. All of them are separated while I am not home. Jason M. - PitBullLovers.com Originally posted ages ago. (permalink) jmann40504 edited this topic ages ago.
	Dusty Boots Photography says: I think you may have missed an earlier post, I mentioned that I got both my pitts when they were 7 weeks old but they are know 10 and 12 years old. The reason I asked the question originally was because my dogs have been left alone together since I got them and they also have been going to the dog park since they were old enough not to get run over by the big dogs. I never had any issues with fighting, but all the books I read warn about leaving them alone together or taking them to the dog park. I wasn't sure whether my dogs were rare in getting along all the time and being fine at the dog park, or where all these putbull books being written by people who owned golden retrievers. So it seems either I was just lucky or my dogs are anomaly. Either way it's good. ages ago (permalink)
	HelloPitty says: I cant separate my two males!? They are like peas and carrots these two!! Hats off to the "out of the ordinary pits" out there, I know Ive got two males who cant live without each other- ages ago (permalink)
	Dusty Boots Photography says: How sweet, their spooning! ages ago (permalink)
	cute geese [deleted] says: I know my Pitt and she loves to run with the other dogs at the park. She grew up around them. She out runs them all. At the park we have a dog that goes after her and he bites her cheeks and she let's him.But he is sheep herding dog. She loves her friends and she would never go after them.She is so sweet. Plus we have 2 cats and they are left alone together all day. She sleeps on our bed when we are not home. I walk my Pitt without a leash. She listens to me. I know my dog and she has no mean in her. Ty Ginny from Philadelphia ages ago (permalink)
	HelloPitty says: (Pitty's husband actually) I like getting on the groups and reading what people have to say, and this topic has caught my attention. You are all doing what I fight so hard to get people NOT to do; You are stereotyping our dogs by breed! Is that not what we are fighting against?!? How about saying, "it's not a good idea to have ANY two dogs alone in a house all day. I don't understand why their breed has anything to do with it!?! This is the last place I would have expected to hear this kind of talk. Here is my advice: YOU know your dogs better than any "expert" in these groups, YOU make the determination. I have never thought twice about leaving my two males alone in the house, or leaving them in the back yard with my children for that matter! I know my dogs, I know how they have been raised, and I know that the fact that they are APBT's has absolutely no influence on those decisions. My dogs go to off leash parks also, and I keep an eye on them only because I wouldn't want them hurt by another dog. There is no aggression in them and they listen when I speak, regardless of situation. -Only you can make you feel comfortable with the decision, but please don't let the fact that they are Pit's make you think they are more prone to attack. What next, are we going to start giving statistics like their "locking jaws" or brain swelling as to the reason they are more likely to attack? Let's not become part of the problem facing our loving breed. Don't Stereotype! Be careful with your dog, take precautions if you feel necessary, but do it because you love your dog and not because he/she is a Pitbull. ages ago (permalink)
	fabulous river [deleted] says: i have 2 females and one male (mix). I don't leave any of them alone unattended just b/c they get into everything. (anyone who thinks dogs aren't clever never met a pit!) All the dogs get along well, but sometimes one dog will have an "off" day an isn't interested in playing. we've even had to give a time-out during the day if our younger female is annoying the older dogs. Plus, every dog has their own temperament. Some dogs are possesive of treats/toys and that will trigger a fight. From what I've learned while volunteering with animal rescue, its better to be safe than sorry. ages ago (permalink)
	vintageladies says: amen to HelloPitty.... i had a pit x and beagle shepard x... left them alone all the time... no prob....beyond a few pillows knocked about... the couch in disarray from playing... ages ago (permalink)
	Tank Drywall says: Here's two females that seem to get along ok.... www.flickr.com/photos/tankdrywall/2698716431/ ages ago (permalink)
	dbeads says: actually the point is that sometimes -especially high excitement times(mailman, etc) things can and do escalate. Only needs to happen once in their lives and you might have wished you'd separated them. Even boredom can make them act up. world is full of people that said-"I can't believe my dog would ever do that". Add to that they are hard-wired not to back down from an argument=recipe for disaster. Many times I have thought, aaah, they'll be OK, but I come back to separate them. Its a pain, and people "think "they know their dogs, but things can and do happen. Has nothing to do with meaness or the over-used cliche about time bombs waiting to explode, or that they don't like each other...they can and do react in ways we sometimes don't understand. So, as for me, the little extra hassle is worth it.And they appreciate each other more when I come home... Originally posted ages ago. (permalink) dbeads edited this topic ages ago.
	biddlepix says: Great post just jenn photography!!! As far as the ticking time bomb thing - I don't think it has to do with the breed but with the fact that they are indeed animals. As a pitbull owner, you have to be even MORE responsible and careful to protect our dogs from the prejudice that exists against them. In a dog park situation, your dog may be well behaved and friendly but you have no guarantee that the other dogs have responsible owners that taught them the same behaviors. If a scuffle ensued, you better believe the pitbull would be the one blamed. We have to protect our pets from the bad press they already have, and being careful is the best bet. Socialize them, let them play with children - do all the things to show what amazing dogs they are, but protect them from irresponsible owners and their dogs. ages ago (permalink)
	iimoorshiai says: erm my pit loves... LOVES other dogs. the only way he would ever hurt anything would be on accident. even with my kitty, he likes to chase her but would never hurt her. i've heard quite a few pros say ANY and ALL dog can/might snap. so unless you train your pit to fight, he is as small as a risk as any other dog out there :/ ages ago (permalink)
	s.mariegreene says: we have 2 male pits one inside one outside. we just got them from different owners one is 6 years old and the other is 9 months old. one of my sons friends was at the house and left a door open and our 6 year old dog dirty got out and fought with our 9 month old pete. luckily we was home to break things up before they got hurt bad or worse. ages ago (permalink)
	leesx63 says: i live in the uk where they love 2 hate pits? i have 2 male dogs 1 pit snoop who we saved from 6months old and 1 germansheperd tyson also rescued now they live and sleep together and are fine on there own snoop loves other dogs its the other dog owners that dont love him but after 5min ov play they all fall in love with him.Its just bad owners and bad press so we all have to suffer. ages ago (permalink)
	ekcumbus29 says: HellpPitty couldn't have said it better. I hate hearing that it's a bad idea to bring your bully to an off-leash Dog Park. Ours go EVERY DAY and have been since they were babies. They LOVE it- never any issues. We are confident enough in the way we raised them to be able to do this- I can't imagine not knowing my bully and always thinking something bad may come of the Dog Park. We KNOW our dogs- we KNOW they are okay out there. ages ago (permalink)
	BigBoyDrums (www.hectorcruzphoto.com) says: Not every pitty or dog for that matter is the same, some react to situations differently. I NEVER take my dogs to the dog park not cause I can't control them but frankly too many "IDIOTS" that don't know how to control their dogs or think that barking, humping, standing over, etc other dogs is cute or acceptable. The last time I went to the dog park my dogs were fine playing running, when a golden came in and decided to begin to hump all of my dogs randomly, so I of course went over to the the owner to get his dog to stop, he didn't, so I stopped the dog....when that dog turned around to bite me. Now, before this NONE of my dogs had shown aggression to anything....my pitty is even a certified therapy dog. However, my pitty made sure that I was not going to get bitten and defended me. Who do you think everyone went to blame, me and my dog of course. Why cause he is a pitbull, luckily for me my friend got it all on his camera phone but they wanted to take my dogs from me right there. I also never leave my dogs together unattended, just like I would never leave my kids unattended. There are exceptions to the rule, but overall any "reputable" trainer or behaviorist will tell you that it is "NEVER" a good idea to leave to dogs alone together. I am glad some of you have never had any problems, with leaving your two same sex pits alone thats awesome and "RARE", but to suggest to others that it's ok is just plain irresponsible. just my $.02..... If and when (hopefully never), your pitty does get into a fight or has to defend him/herself or you, I GUARANTEE the pitty will always win. We cannot deny what our dogs were "bred" (bred and raised are two different things) to do! I HATE pitty owners that deny that our beloved breed is the gladiator of the dog world. Not all labs retrieve, but the majority of them do by instinct, not all pittys are dog aggresive, but the majority by instinct can definitely be. Originally posted ages ago. (permalink) BigBoyDrums (www.hectorcruzphoto.com) edited this topic ages ago.
	e k p says: I've never in my life heard (until now) that 2 pit bulls or two dogs for that matter, should be left alone. We have 3 dogs, and aside from occasionally crating the puppy while we are out (to stop her from eating the baseboards) the dogs are always together. My dogs go to off leash parks all of the time. Today we were there for 1.5 hours. And the only dog not allowed off leash is the Boston Terrier. He's the only one who shows any dog aggression. BIGBOYDRUMS- I have to disagree with you on many points. First, you can't guarantee to me or anyone else that our pits will always win in a fight. I've watched my dogs being attacked and they back down and DON'T win. No one here is denying that our dogs are gladiators. We all know that. But by "gladiator" we are talking about the dog being a powerful breed. That power can be unleashed in many ways, from a good walk to agility. It doesn't have to mean that our dogs are always on the verge of fighting. As for your little mishap in the dog park...that isn't a breed issue. Sure, your dog attacked to protect you. But that wasn't because he was a pit bull. And I can tell you that I've had similar situations with our dogs, where I've been nearly bitten or bitten by a strangers dog. The first thing my pit bull does is look to me for a cue. "What am I supposed to do here, in this unstable situation, to help you, my pack leader?" I always give her the cue to leave it, and we all walk away. I know so many people who have multiple gladiator breeds, and NONE of them separate their dogs when they are alone. And if they did, all they would get is a bunch of sad pups who just want to be with their packs. It's not "irresponsible" to suggest that people leave their dogs alone or that they trust them at off leash parks. It's too bad that people with dogs who are great pit bull ambassadors help spread untruths about the breed. ages ago (permalink)
	BigBoyDrums (www.hectorcruzphoto.com) says: @ EPK Ok, I agree I used the wrong word when it comes to guarantee......however, I NEVER said that pits are always on the verge of fighting. Why are most "pit owners" so negligent when it comes to "putting their dogs in a risky situation". I never once said that the fact that my dog defended me had anything to do with a particular breed. What I was trying to point out was the simple fact that my dog defended me and considering the fact that he is a pit, he was and will always be blamed PERIOD! I for one love all pits, try to promote the breed to the best of my ability (hence my pitty being a therapy dog), that being said not everyone shares my views about my beloved breed. Sorry, to disagree with you but your dog is an animal, not a child, or a human being, you cannot guarantee that any DOG of any BREED will not fight. I love my dogs like they are my children, but lets be realistic they are first and foremost animals. They do not rationalize like we humans do, so to say that you can 100% control them is just not a statement I would be making. Pet owners need to stop humanizing their pets and realize that they are animals with a the propensity to act like an animal!!!! I also know many people that have multiple gladiator breeds and have had them fight even after the dogs grew up together. Just because YOUR dogs are not dog aggressive, have tolerance for other "untrained" or "unruly" dogs at the dog park, does not mean that other people's dogs will act the same. So....YES it is "irresponsible" to suggest to another owner (one who's dogs you know nothing about) that it is ok to leave them alone or to take them to off leash dog parks. It's too bad that people with dogs who are great pit bull ambassadors help by putting their dogs in a situation that could lead to more bad press about the breed. Also to completely throw out what are dogs were bred to do is completely "irresponsible". Why is it that their are pit bull owners that can't come to the realization that their dogs have a predisposition to be naturally dog aggressive? Originally posted ages ago. (permalink) BigBoyDrums (www.hectorcruzphoto.com) edited this topic ages ago.
	e k p says: bigboydrums- you make it sound like i'm putting my dogs in a risky situation. taking my dogs off leash is not risky, and i don't consider it risky to leave my dogs alone together when i'm not home. let me get something clear. i have not once suggested to anyone that they leave their dogs alone together or that they take their dogs to offleash parks. why would i do that? i'm simply defending my decision to do these things with my own dogs. i trust other dog owners to make the right choice with their own pets. i wouldn't tell anyone to do this, if i didn't know the individual circumstances, but i certainly won't tell people it's a bad idea to do it! and don't assume i humanize my dogs. i am the first person to not do this. it's not "humanizing" to trust my dogs. i love dogs because of the animal that they are. it's what i love about having them around, working with them and connecting with them. and please don't quote me saying that i can 100% control my dogs. i did not elude to that at all. i do trust my dogs, however control and trust are 2 different things. and i know my dogs. i know what my dogs are prone to do. as far as MY pits go, fighting isn't what they are prone to do. and don't imply that what i do is a shame because it could lead to more bad press about the breed. there is nothing wrong with taking my dogs off leash or leaving them alone. period. and please stop making it sound like i don't know what pit bulls were bred to do. i know they were bred to fight. that does not mean that i can't trust them. are you actually claiming that i haven't come to the realization that pit bulls have a predisposition to be naturally dog aggressive? stop making me sound like i think my dogs are little cute poodles and stop hinting that i've said things that i haven't. the point is this: every dog owner should do what they know is best for their individual dog. i have not once said that every pit owner should trust their dogs, but i don't say this because they are pits, i'm talking about dogs in general. 80% of dog breeds have been bred to fight or attack. this has to stop being about pit bulls, otherwise we are setting up our own BSL in our own houses. ages ago (permalink)
	ekcumbus29 says: Well said, ekp. ages ago (permalink)
	Bettie Page Styled says: EKP: "80% of dog breeds have been bred to fight or attack." I'd like to see the factual data behind this statement, please. I just skimmed the rest of your wordiness and this statement alone negates any serious conversation. ages ago (permalink)
	BigBoyDrums (www.hectorcruzphoto.com) says: Its why I gave up Bettie...lol.. ages ago (permalink)
	e k p says: bigboydrums- don't make it sound like you gave up because my "wordiness...negates any serious conversation". you put words in my mouth and made it sound like i said things that i didn't say. bettie page styled- i'll find the factual data behind what i said. many dog breeds were bred to have fighting or aggressive characteristics. this can be anything from guarding, hunting, fighting, combat uses....you name it. some breeds uses have changed over time. my boston terrier wasn't bred today as a fighting dog, now they are companion dogs, but the history of his breed is still there as a fighter. people don't look at my sister's great dane as anything more than a gentle giant, but his breed history has him able to hunt wild boar. regardless, if you want factual data, i'll get it. what is the real issue here? my "wordiness"? or are some people really so upset that i leave my pit bulls alone together and take them off leash at parks? Originally posted ages ago. (permalink) e k p edited this topic ages ago.
	BigBoyDrums (www.hectorcruzphoto.com) says: The problem is your IGNORANCE to the fact that you seem to think that your dogs will NEVER fight or get into some mishap. You talk like that will never happen. ages ago (permalink)
	e k p says: I'm simply defending my decision to allow my well behaved, socialized pit bulls to be off leash and be left alone together. I haven't once suggested that everyone should do the same. This post is full of comments from other people who do just what I do, which is trust our dogs regardless of breed. I do trust my pit bulls to back down. They have every time they have been challenged, bitten, charged. They are socialized, submissive, well behaved dogs. Bottom line. It would be ignorant of me to assume that my dogs would never get into a fight or a mishap, wouldn't it? It would be very ignorant considering my Boston Terrier is very dog aggressive. Considering it's taken 2 years of solid training since we adopted him to stop him from trying to kill every dog he meets. Considering that my dogs have been attacked, bitten and challenged by other dogs over the years. Considering Olive was bullied by a Ridgeback yesterday at the park. So it's a good thing i don't think that, regardless of what you suggest. It is ignorant, however, to continually put words in my mouth. It's ignorant to assume that myself and other pit bull owners shouldn't make the decision to trust our dogs off leash. I simply feel that dogs should be evaluated as individuals, regardless of breed. I think that regarding BSL and i think that regarding dog parks. I think it's dangerous to group all animals from one breed together, because then you restrain well behaved dogs and let aggressive dogs from other breeds fall through the cracks. It's why my Boston is always on leash and why my older pit bull is leashed around cats. Dogs are animals first, and they are individual. What works for one won't work for another in every case. That's all i'm saying, whether you find it too wordy or not. It's insane that someone thinks that I am dangerous and irresponsible because I do this. And it's offensive to have to defend myself against things I've never said. I'm constantly having to set the record straight, bigboydrums, to point out to you that you are misquoting me. Anyways, we just got home from the dog park, where these two pit bulls ran off leash to their hearts content. They chased balls and frisbees through the rain and mud puddles. Daisy played with a group of German shepards and happily shared her ball with a Chow and an Akita. Olive made good friends with an old Basset Hound and took swimming lessons from a couple of water crazy labs. Geesh, I sure do take my chances, don't I? Originally posted ages ago. (permalink) e k p edited this topic ages ago.
	Mrs. Murder says: We leave our Pitt home alone with our Min-Pin that we got 2 years after we got our Pitt and have never had an issue. ages ago (permalink)
	manxkitties2000 says: My pitbull mix is definitely not a fighter, she has been bit three times and always backed down and "lost". Usually she yelps and comes me crying and by the way no one has ever blamed her either even thought the other breeds were what would be considered non-fighting breeds. Admittedly she is a mix, but she looks like a small pitbull. Now the more important point! Perhaps the aggression is more dependent on whether you rescued your dog after it was older or you raised it from a puppy. I am all for rescuing dogs (mine was 1 yr old when I rescued her), but rescued dogs usually have more issues and we may not know their history so you must be more careful with them. If you raised your dog from a puppy and socialized it from puppyhood with both kids, dogs, and other people it probably won't be aggresive and if it is you should know and take appropriate action. That said I don't think I would ever leave a dog alone with a young child, but I think the it is a lot healtheir for most dogs to live as part of a pack rather than being seperated. Of course as stated before, you know your pet best and it is your call if you don't feel comfortable leaving hem together. There, my two cents too! ages ago (permalink)
	puck90 says: this is a discussion - no need to be rude ages ago (permalink)
	BigBoyDrums (www.hectorcruzphoto.com) says: puck90 This was 3 months ago...no need to bring up old threads..lol ages ago (permalink)
	puck90 says: well there's that - but it was new to me ages ago (permalink)
	JakelovesPitbulls says: The most important thing we always need to keep in mind, is that our Babies all show in their behavior, what we have taught them is acceptable. How our Pitbulls are raised, and the behaviors they learn are acceptable, WILL ultimately be the outcome of their character. I NEVER allow aggressive behavior in any form from any of my Pitts, and in disciplining them, never show violence. My Pitts have the ultimate respect for me as their Alpha. Pitts by nature don't really have a hellion in them as much as a giant playful clown, and do tend to get carried away with it. Unfortunately, by the strangers dog in the park, or by the over concerned educated idiots of our society, that playfulness or jumpy pouncing, as an example, can be seriously misread. Other dogs, or people may feel threatened. In my opinion its foolish to show fear to ANY animal. I am not surprised your males do well together, they have been together for some time now, and have established at some point already, who is the Alpha, and the other has no problem with that, or need to challenge it. That in my opinion shows that you have given them adequate love and attention, and eliminated any need for them to feel better about themselves. Often enough I hear people say "Its just a dog" They are more emotional than humans, anyone who knows their Pit knows that... Keep up the good work bro, sounds like youre doing great with them, Take a bow.. ages ago (permalink)
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