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Maintenance and Upkeep Discussion HHR maintenance tips ranging from oil change intervals to brake pads and everything in between. Community Links Pictures & Albums Members List Search Forums Show Threads Show Posts Tag Search Advanced Search Go to Page... Power steering fluid flush??????? Reply Subscribe Thread Tools Search this Thread Apr 5, 2008 | 06:08 PM Share Share Options #1 MWG2 Thread Starter Senior Member Joined: 11-14-2007 Posts: 1,240 From: Planet Earth Power steering fluid flush??????? A friend got ripped off at a dealership recently, he was charged for a "Power Steering fluid flush" for his HHR. Just want folks to know the following: According to page 248 of the 2007 HHR manual, it clearly states: "The electric power steering system does not require regular maintenance." Here is the complete steering paragraph from the manual: (The bolding is my formatting.) Steering Electric Power Steering If the engine stalls while you are driving, the power steering assist system will continue to operate until you are able to stop your vehicle. If you lose power steering assist because the electric power steering system is not functioning, you can steer, but it will take more effort. If you turn the steering wheel in either direction several times until it stops, or hold the steering wheel in the stopped position for an extended amount of time, you may notice a reduced amount of power steering assist. The normal amount of power steering assist should return shortly after a few normal steering movements. The electric power steering system does not require regular maintenance. If you suspect steering system problems and/or the POWER STEERING message comes on, contact your dealer for service repairs. See DIC Warnings and Messages on page 197. ALSO: There is absolutely NOTHING in the maunual about Power Steering Fluid. No where in the manual do the words "power steering fluid" exist. The fluids mentioned in the manual (Page 403): Usage Fluid/Lubricant Engine Oil Engine oil which meets GM Standard GM6094M and displays the American Petroleum Institute Certified for Gasoline Engines starburst symbol. GM Goodwrench® oil meets all the requirements for your vehicle. To determine the proper viscosity for your vehicle’s engine, see Engine Oil on page 299. Engine Coolant 50/50 mixture of clean, drinkable water and use only DEX-COOL® Coolant. See Engine Coolant on page 306. Usage Fluid/Lubricant Hydraulic Brake System Delco® Supreme 11 Brake Fluid or equivalent DOT-3 brake fluid. Hydraulic Clutch System Delco® Supreme 11 Brake Fluid or equivalent DOT-3 brake fluid. Windshield Washer Optikleen® Washer Solvent. Parking Brake Cable Guides Chassis Lubricant (GM Part No. 12377985, in Canada 88901242) or lubricant meeting requirements of NLGI #2, Category LB or GC-LB. Manual Transaxle Manual Transmission Fluid (GM Part No. U.S. 88861800, in Canada 88861801). Automatic Transaxle DEXRON®-VI Automatic Transmission Fluid. Also, under Maintenace I and II in the owners manual, there is no mention whatsoever of performing a "power steering flush." Reply MWG2 View Public Profile Send a private message to MWG2 Find More Posts by MWG2 Apr 5, 2008 | 08:02 PM Share Share Options #2 tim_tenn Senior Member Joined: 01-02-2008 Posts: 1,529 From: Nashville, TN Unless I'm totally mistaken, the steering uses an electric power assist, speed sensitive. More assist provided at lower speeds, diminishing assist as speed increases. "Speed-Sensitive Power Assist Steering, Electric" is how I believe it was listed on my window sticker. Guess maybe he missed that on his window sticker? Reply tim_tenn View Public Profile Send a private message to tim_tenn Find More Posts by tim_tenn Apr 5, 2008 | 08:37 PM Share Share Options #3 MWG2 Thread Starter Senior Member Joined: 11-14-2007 Posts: 1,240 From: Planet Earth Quote: Originally Posted by tim_tenn Unless I'm totally mistaken, the steering uses an electric power assist, speed sensitive. More assist provided at lower speeds, diminishing assist as speed increases. "Speed-Sensitive Power Assist Steering, Electric" is how I believe it was listed on my window sticker. Guess maybe he missed that on his window sticker? It was the DEALERSHIP that performed the power steering fluid flush during his 30K service. He got royally ripped-off!!!! He didn't know that the car was electronic steering. The Dealer had no right to take advantage of him like that. Typical Chevy "rip-you-off" dealership. MIND YOU, there are some honest Chevy dealerships out there, but they are few and far between. Reply MWG2 View Public Profile Send a private message to MWG2 Find More Posts by MWG2 Apr 5, 2008 | 08:40 PM Share Share Options #4 oneton Senior Member Joined: 07-13-2006 Posts: 1,567 From: Geneva, FL. Also for not reading the very informative 2006,2007,2008 HHR manual! That is free with the purchase of a HHR Reply oneton View Public Profile Send a private message to oneton Find More Posts by oneton Apr 5, 2008 | 09:17 PM Share Share Options #5 MWG2 Thread Starter Senior Member Joined: 11-14-2007 Posts: 1,240 From: Planet Earth Quote: Originally Posted by oneton Also for not reading the very informative 2006,2007,2008 HHR manual! That is free with the purchase of a HHR And I am one of those sick people that actually reads the manaul whenever I purchase a new vehicle. I also have the 2007 HHR manual in PDF format on my computer. Makes it easy to search for items. Reply MWG2 View Public Profile Send a private message to MWG2 Find More Posts by MWG2 Apr 6, 2008 | 12:12 AM Share Share Options #6 TomsHHR Senior Member Joined: 01-13-2006 Posts: 3,000 From: Superior, WI - Over the Hill Warranty Club member This will explain the power steering. electric with rack and pinion backup. http://************/5bq679 Reply TomsHHR View Public Profile Send a private message to TomsHHR Visit TomsHHR's homepage! Find More Posts by TomsHHR Apr 6, 2008 | 09:25 AM Share Share Options #7 hhrcrafty Banned Joined: 10-25-2006 Posts: 1,761 From: The Show-Me State Quote: Originally Posted by TomsHHR This will explain the power steering. electric with rack and pinion backup. http://************/5bq679 The HHR doesn't use hydraulics of any kind on the steering system. It has an actuator on the steering column that was designed by Seiko and now manufactured by Toyota. I'd be curious to see what else was performed on the "30k service". Problem is that people don't do any of their own maintenance or even bother reading the owner's manual to see what their car really needs. Most of my Honda and Toyota-owning friends just take the car to the dealership and happily pay $200 a visit for nothing more than an oil change and wiper blades. Reply hhrcrafty View Public Profile Find More Posts by hhrcrafty Apr 7, 2008 | 10:45 AM Share Share Options #8 LT1GMC Senior Member Joined: 01-28-2008 Posts: 357 From: INDIANA I'd confront the dealer and demand a refund for work that obviously could NOT have been done. If they balk, I would contact GM customer service, and/or a lawyer. The only way you can stop this bull is to take issue with it. Too many people just taking it is what allows it to happen in the first place. Reply LT1GMC View Public Profile Send a private message to LT1GMC Find More Posts by LT1GMC Apr 7, 2008 | 12:03 PM Share Share Options #9 jollyroger New Member Joined: 03-19-2008 Posts: 22 From: St. Charles, MO Quote: Originally Posted by LT1GMC I'd confront the dealer and demand a refund for work that obviously could NOT have been done. If they balk, I would contact GM customer service, and/or a lawyer. The only way you can stop this bull is to take issue with it. Too many people just taking it is what allows it to happen in the first place. Ditto. Why doesn't the guy just go back and ***** about it, get a price adjustment? Yeah, he's gonna be ripped off sitting on his couch whining about it...jeez. Reply jollyroger View Public Profile Send a private message to jollyroger Find More Posts by jollyroger Apr 7, 2008 | 01:44 PM Share Share Options #10 Snoopy Platinum Member Joined: 05-09-2006 Posts: 6,805 From: "Upland" Mesa, Arizona It's easier to vent here !!! And not as challenging or maybe as embarrasing. Nothing against MWG. It's just the American human nature. Reply Snoopy View Public Profile Send a private message to Snoopy Find More Posts by Snoopy Thread Tools Show Printable Version Email this Page Search this Thread Advanced Search Thread Tools Show Printable Version Email this Page Advanced Search Reply Closed Thread Share

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