Real Silly And Simple Q: What Does V/r Mean In A Message Closing? Home » What Does V/r Mean » Real Silly And Simple Q: What Does V/r Mean In A Message Closing? Maybe your like What Does Voice Winner Get What Does W P Mean What Does Watery Discharge Mean What Does Wc Stand For What Does White Nails Mean Real Silly and Simple Q: What does v/r mean in a message closing? Factual Questions LiveOnAPlane February 17, 2010, 5:48pm 1 This should probably go in MPSIMS, but I am sure there is a factual answer even if I am embarassed to admit I can’t figure it out. When closing an email, I have a few folk that use v/r instead of something like “Thanks.” I think the “r” stands for regards, but can’t come up with the meaning of the “v” and yet I am sure I’ve seen this before. Thanks for your kind consideration! v/r, LiveOnAPlane Giles February 17, 2010, 5:51pm 2 “very respectfully” urbandictionary.com LiveOnAPlane February 17, 2010, 6:50pm 3 Ignorance fought. Many thanks. Mr.Moto February 17, 2010, 9:00pm 4 It comes from military usage. Very respectfully is used as a closing in a letter to a superior, while respectfully is used as a closing to subordinates. LiveOnAPlane February 18, 2010, 4:14am 5 Ah, that is interesting, Mr. Moto. Thank you for the extra info…kinda appropos, since 99% of the folk I work with here are either military or ex-military. …Which, come to think of it, probably explains why I am running across it here! pretend_my_name_is_witty February 18, 2010, 12:44pm 6 [moan] Massive gripe of mine in the workplace. If you don’t mean something enough to say it properly - don’t say it. In my opinion it’s more disrespectful to abbreviate a sentiment you don’t mean than to entirely disclude it. Lots of people at work have ‘Kind Regards’ in their e-mail signature, which I can kind of get behind when sending formal e-mails to people that matter - but if you really wanted to say it, it’d be in the message body. But putting ‘KR’ at the end of each message when we’re playing e-mail tennis will make me think less of you. [/moan] Mr.Moto February 18, 2010, 2:09pm 7 Can’t agree. Convention is what it is. I’m not always “Sincere”, you know. As for the abbreviations, they came in very handy when using teletype machines - which were only recently phased out by the Navy. Other forms of communication still used (semaphore, signal lamp, signal flags) make abbreviations mighty convenient. You might think they would be abandoned in an office setting, but the opposite seems to be happening as more businesses utilize instant message and social media tools. steronz February 18, 2010, 4:08pm 8 The “V/R” trend, IME, has really taken off in the last 3-4 years. When I joined the military 8 years ago, there wasn’t really much in the way of an accepted signature for emails. People were still signing whatever they wanted, with some people going all AOL and putting fancy fonts and colors. Eventually guidance came out that all emails should have that long disclosure that nobody reads, and that our official military signature should be in the form of: //SIGNED// SNUFFY A SMITH, MSgt, USAF NCOIC, JANITORIAL SERVICES DSN 555-0199 This was all well and good, in that it made every email 10 times as long as before but gave us all something “official” to slap on the bottom. But having every email end in this super formal signature was rough. Like, “See you at the game on Saturday. Sincerely, <Insert robot voice>”. So people started coming up with their own thing. “v/r” works out well because it’s a way to “casually” sign the email before the super official garbage starts. Doing something like: v/r, Snuffy Is the next step up. If you’re an O-6 or above, you can do the whole “v/r, sas” thing with your initials, and that lets everyone know that you’re one of the peeps. But I never liked the v/r, because if you put it in your signature block, then every message is apparently very respectful. And if I assume that you meant to be very respectful, then I can just assume it. I took to omitting it and just throwing in a “-Snuffy” at the end of my message before the official signature, unless I was trying to be formal, in which case I just let the official signature stand on its own. Arnold_Winkelried February 18, 2010, 8:25pm 9 Mr.Moto: It comes from military usage. Very respectfully is used as a closing in a letter to a superior, while respectfully is used as a closing to subordinates. So if I have to e-mail Admiral Mike Mullen, I shouldn’t end my e-mail with “kthxbye”? Mr.Moto February 18, 2010, 9:18pm 10 Arnold_Winkelried: So if I have to e-mail Admiral Mike Mullen, I shouldn’t end my e-mail with “kthxbye”? You’re a civilian, right? If so you can say what you want. So can I, in fact - my obligations to the government ended some years back. Standard business salutations and closings would likely be fine in correspondence with Admiral Mullen. Fuzzy_Dunlop February 18, 2010, 11:08pm 11 pretend_my_name_is_witty: [moan] Massive gripe of mine in the workplace. If you don’t mean something enough to say it properly - don’t say it. In my opinion it’s more disrespectful to abbreviate a sentiment you don’t mean than to entirely disclude it. Lots of people at work have ‘Kind Regards’ in their e-mail signature, which I can kind of get behind when sending formal e-mails to people that matter - but if you really wanted to say it, it’d be in the message body. But putting ‘KR’ at the end of each message when we’re playing e-mail tennis will make me think less of you. [/moan] I can sort understand your dislike of abbreviations but are you saying you’re opposed to any complimentary close in e-mail? It’s certainly not necessary in a quick message, especially a personal message about tennis, but I don’t see why it’s objectionable. elbows February 19, 2010, 3:17am 12 I have to agree, if it’s abbreviate it doesn’t seem ‘respectful’ at all, certainly not ‘very’. But leave it to the army to formalize an honorific till it contains no, well, honour. pretend_my_name_is_witty February 19, 2010, 10:41am 13 Fuzzy_Dunlop: I can sort understand your dislike of abbreviations but are you saying you’re opposed to any complimentary close in e-mail? It’s certainly not necessary in a quick message, especially a personal message about tennis, but I don’t see why it’s objectionable. Not objected to a complimentary close - if I’m sending a quick informal message to the boss, I’m smart enough to put ‘Regards’ or ‘Best Regards’ at the bottom. But one of my pals asking me if we want to go for lunch or thanking me for coffee would be better suited to ‘Cheers’ or ‘See you later’ as a close - putting an over-formal convention seems lazy and slightly offensive to me. pretend_my_name_is_witty February 19, 2010, 10:45am 14 It’s not just this, though, it’s the thing of false sentiment for the sake of keeping up appearances. At the train station yesterday, every few minutes the recorded announcer would come on and say 'National rail is very sorry for the delay…, we apologise for '. If you don’t feel bad enough to get a real person to send the message, then don’t over-do the apologies! Kind of a parallel to the e-mail signature. breakthru June 27, 2014, 3:45pm 15 “Very Respectfully” Colibri June 27, 2014, 3:56pm 16 We ask that old threads only be revived in order to provide new information, Given that this question was answered in the second post four years ago, I’m going to close this. 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