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You may have heard words seme and uke before, they're two related terms used to describe the roles of characters in gay fiction, mostly gay fanfics, with their gay ships. But what does seme and uke mean? What's the difference between a seme and an uke? And what does seme and uke mean in Japanese?
A Japanese thread on "how to decide seme and uke?" seme-uke no kime-kata 受け攻めの決め方 had answers like these (and yes, I translated them right). ago ga nagai hou ga seme tte kimatteru 顎が長い方が攻めって決まってる It's obvious the one with the longer chin is the seme! tan'ni shinchou ga takai hou ga seme, hikui ga uke 単に身長が高い方が攻め、低い方が受け Simply put the one whose height is taller is seme, the shorter is uke mae made "taikaku-sa" tte itteta kedo 195cm no kyokan otoko-mae uke ni mezameta 前まで「体格差」って言ってたけど195cmの巨漢男前受けに目覚めた Until some time ago I said it was the "difference in physique (height)," but I my eyes were open [after seeing] a 195cm [tall] otoko-mae uke. (a type of uke that looks manly) meshi wo tsukutteru hou ga seme de kuwasete moratteru hou ga uke desu 飯を作ってる方が攻めで食わせてもらってる方が受けです The one making food is the seme while the one that eats is the uke. azatoi hou ga seme desu あざとい方が攻めです The sly/cunning one is seme. seme no tame ni inochi wo nagedaseru hou ga uke de futari de ikiyou to kangaeru no ga seme 攻のために命を投げ出せるほうが受で二人で生きようと考えるのが攻 The one who would throw out his life for the seme is the uke while the one thinking about living as a couple is the seme. aite no subete wo ukeirete aisareru yori aishitai ha no hou ga uke desu 相手のすべてを受け入れて愛されるより愛したい派のほうが受けです The one who would accept everything of his partner and would rather love than be loved is uke. "idakasete kudasai" tte iwarete "shou ga nai na" tte kotaesou na hou ga uke ka na 「抱かせてください」って言われて「しょうがないな」って答えそうな方が受かな The one that gets said "let me hug you" and seems to answer "if it can't be helped [then sure]" is the uke. "uwa-me-dzukai sareta hou ga uke" de "miorosaretai no ga seme" 「上目遣いされたい方が受け」で「見下されたいのが攻め」 "the one who wants to be looked up to is uke," while "the one who wants to be looked down upon is seme." (probably physically, not figuratively) tinko ga dekai hou ga seme ちんこがでかい方が攻め The one with the bigger dick is seme. kimegata wa kabe don desu 決め方は壁ドンです The way to decide is kabe don (act of slapping a wall so the person you're talking to is between the wall, your arm, and the rest of you) megane ga suru hou ga uke めがねな方が受け The one wearing glasses is uke. shiri no ana kara u-ko suru hou ga seme 尻の穴からウ●コするほうが攻め The one that s#!ts from his butt hole is the seme. (implying ukes don't poop, because ukes have a BL ana BL穴, an imaginary "BL hole" that allows for gay sex to happen without problems, and yes, that's actually a word.) uke-seme no kime-kata wa koin-tosu janai no? 受け攻めの決め方はコイントスじゃないの? The way to decide uke and seme isn't coin toss?
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- Definition
- Seme vs. Uke Characters
- How to Decide
- Origin & Japanese Meaning
- Japanese Usage
- Importance in Shipping
- Types of Seme and Uke
- Usage in Yuri Ships
- Usage in Straight Ships
- LGBT Criticism
- Tachi タチ & Neko ネコ
Definition
To begin with, seme and uke are, nothing more, nothing less, than words for "top" and "bottom" in gay fanfics, that is, the guy who penetrates and the one who's penetrated.- seme 攻め Top.
- uke 受け Bottom.
Sex vs. Sexless
If a fanfic or doujinshi 同人誌 is sexually explicit, pornographic, hentai 変態, and it features gay sex, then anyone with a pair of working eyes can tell who's "top" and who's "bottom" in it. However, the terms seme and uke are rarely used to talk about gay sex that happens. They are often used in shipping of characters who are not even canonically gay to begin with, so they can't be canonically top or bottom. This means that fans of BL, specially fujoshi 腐女子, will take two heterosexual male characters from a manga or anime, form a gay couple of them, and fantasize which one is seme and and which one is uke based on what the character looks or behaves like. It has little basis on reality, it's pure perverted fantasy. Extrapolating that, it's become common for people to erroneously call characters seme and uke based on just their looks. Remember: the terms seme and uke regard strictly what would happen in bed if something ever happened in bed. If you call a character uke, he must be the bottom. An uke top is an oxymoron. If he looks like an uke, but is a top, he's seme, that's just what the words mean. Conversely the most seme-looking guy who's a bottom is by definition an uke. Since BL puts less emphasis on sex itself and more on the relationship between characters, one could say that which character is depicted as "top" or "bottom" in the sexual act merely reflects the dynamic of the relationship itself. That is, seme and uke in BL rarely considers the possibility of a character's sexual preference, and is instead is the logical assumption made by the shipper based on whether the character would be the "guy" or the "girl" of the gay couple. Conversely, cases where the shipper just makes a couple of two characters and, well, one needs to be seme, one needs to be uke, what to do?! Also exist. So there are cases seme-uke are decided randomly and without thought, meaning they mean nothing.Outside of BL
Although seme and uke are mostly used with gay ships, it can also be used for lesbian ships and even straight ships. I'll explain in detail later, for now let's focus on gay since it's the most common case.Seme vs. Uke Characters
Generally speaking, the difference between seme and uke characters is as follows:- seme 攻め Assertive. Dominant. Protective. Brave. Strong. Resourceful. Knowledgeable. Taller. Older. Composed. Manly. Ikemen イケメン Takes the "man" role in the gay relationship.
- uke 受け Passive. Submissive. Impressionable. Timid. Delicate. Troubled. Inexperienced. Shorter. Younger. Cute. Effeminate. Bishounen 美少年 Takes the "woman" role in the gay relationship.
Couple Dynamics
In many cases ships are made of a childish uke character without resources (poor, abandoned by parents, lives on the streets, has to pay off an huge debt, no, wait, that's Hayate) or knowledge paired with more grown-up seme characters that are either rich or successful in their fields and can teach or financially aid the uke. That is, the seme is often more powerful than the uke in pretty much every aspect and that translates in the romantic and sexual roles. The seme also usually takes protector roles or mentor roles. Although generally the idea is that the uke is the one in dire need of the seme's aid, in some cases it's the seme who needs attention or love, and the uke ends up being the one there to offer it. Introversion and extroversion have little effect on seme and uke. There are cases where the extroverted uke looks naive and the introverted seme looks composed, and there are cases where the introverted uke looks shy, and the extroverted seme looks flirting. It often boils down to who puts most energy into making the relationship come to fruition, and that's usually the seme. Either by trying conquest or using his power to force it. Lastly, there are certain couples of seme and uke that deliberately invert the power factor. Where the seme is timid or has lower status and the uke displays superiority and is the one trying to get in a relationship with the seme. (see types of seme and uke)How Seme and Uke is Decided
Ultimately, which is the seme and uke in a given couple is mostly based on the shipper's intuition. The most ardent shippers may spend countless nights without sleep wondering which is which may have some trouble deciding which is which, as it's not something obvious for them.
A Japanese thread on "how to decide seme and uke?" seme-uke no kime-kata 受け攻めの決め方 had answers like these (and yes, I translated them right). ago ga nagai hou ga seme tte kimatteru 顎が長い方が攻めって決まってる It's obvious the one with the longer chin is the seme! tan'ni shinchou ga takai hou ga seme, hikui ga uke 単に身長が高い方が攻め、低い方が受け Simply put the one whose height is taller is seme, the shorter is uke mae made "taikaku-sa" tte itteta kedo 195cm no kyokan otoko-mae uke ni mezameta 前まで「体格差」って言ってたけど195cmの巨漢男前受けに目覚めた Until some time ago I said it was the "difference in physique (height)," but I my eyes were open [after seeing] a 195cm [tall] otoko-mae uke. (a type of uke that looks manly) meshi wo tsukutteru hou ga seme de kuwasete moratteru hou ga uke desu 飯を作ってる方が攻めで食わせてもらってる方が受けです The one making food is the seme while the one that eats is the uke. azatoi hou ga seme desu あざとい方が攻めです The sly/cunning one is seme. seme no tame ni inochi wo nagedaseru hou ga uke de futari de ikiyou to kangaeru no ga seme 攻のために命を投げ出せるほうが受で二人で生きようと考えるのが攻 The one who would throw out his life for the seme is the uke while the one thinking about living as a couple is the seme. aite no subete wo ukeirete aisareru yori aishitai ha no hou ga uke desu 相手のすべてを受け入れて愛されるより愛したい派のほうが受けです The one who would accept everything of his partner and would rather love than be loved is uke. "idakasete kudasai" tte iwarete "shou ga nai na" tte kotaesou na hou ga uke ka na 「抱かせてください」って言われて「しょうがないな」って答えそうな方が受かな The one that gets said "let me hug you" and seems to answer "if it can't be helped [then sure]" is the uke. "uwa-me-dzukai sareta hou ga uke" de "miorosaretai no ga seme" 「上目遣いされたい方が受け」で「見下されたいのが攻め」 "the one who wants to be looked up to is uke," while "the one who wants to be looked down upon is seme." (probably physically, not figuratively) tinko ga dekai hou ga seme ちんこがでかい方が攻め The one with the bigger dick is seme. kimegata wa kabe don desu 決め方は壁ドンです The way to decide is kabe don (act of slapping a wall so the person you're talking to is between the wall, your arm, and the rest of you) megane ga suru hou ga uke めがねな方が受け The one wearing glasses is uke. shiri no ana kara u-ko suru hou ga seme 尻の穴からウ●コするほうが攻め The one that s#!ts from his butt hole is the seme. (implying ukes don't poop, because ukes have a BL ana BL穴, an imaginary "BL hole" that allows for gay sex to happen without problems, and yes, that's actually a word.) uke-seme no kime-kata wa koin-tosu janai no? 受け攻めの決め方はコイントスじゃないの? The way to decide uke and seme isn't coin toss? Origin & Japanese Meaning
In Japanese, the word seme 攻め comes the verb semeru 攻める, which means "to attack." The word uke 受け comes from the verb ukeru 受ける, which means "to receive."- seme 攻め The offense. (or attacker)
- uke 受け The receive. (or receiver)
- "seme" no hantai wa? 「攻め」の反対は? What's the opposite of "offense"?
- uke! 受け! Receive! (this is a fujoshi)
- mamori! 守り! Defense! (this is a normal person)
Japanese Usage
Just like in the west, in Japan the terms seme and uke are also used by Japanese fujoshi. But there are a couple notes about the usage. First, seme 攻め and uke 受け are sometimes written only with the kanji, without the okurigana.- seme 攻
- uke 受
- seme-kyara 攻めキャラ, Character who is "top."
- uke-kyara 受けキャラ. Character who is "bottom."
Importance in Shipping
The main use of the terms seme and uke is in shipping. Specially BL shipping done by fujoshi 腐女子. In both western fanfics and Japanese doujinshi 同人誌 featuring gay couples of characters, often parodying some other work, the top of the gay ship is always called the seme, and the bottom uke. In manga for gay men, the bara 薔薇 genre, consumers don't care much about who's top and who's bottom. There's no fixation with seme and uke. But in gay fiction made for women, BL, the thing is different. These female consumers do care about who's seme and who's uke. To an absurd level even.Seme x Uke
If there's a ship of two characters, changing who's seme and who's uke is said to change the whole dynamic between two characters. Thus, if someone ships A seme with B uke, they don't necessarily ship A uke with B seme. And they don't consider the two ships to be the same. Furthermore, just like some ships are pretty much canon and some ships are just wrongships, sometimes a character is clearly, obviously, naturally, seme (or uke) and any person who thinks otherwise is considered a fucking idiot.
Uke Is More Important Than Seme
The uke is often the most important side for shippers. This means most shippers will pick an uke character they like, then they figure out some seme to make a couple, and sometimes they don't really care who it is. This means that if one character looks like he's extremely uke in a series, he'll be paired off with pretty much every other character in the same series, making every possible ship. But characters who lean to the seme side don't get the same level of attention. This also means that a fujoshi's priority is to turn characters into bottoms. That's their main concern. Sometimes, this means they'll think all characters of an entire series are uke characters, and there isn't a single seme in it.Pairing Name Order in Yaoi and BL
In Japan, pairing names of characters, or CP, "coupling," or kapuringu カプリング, sometimes shortened as kapu カプ coz why not, as seen on discussions in the internet, products such as doujinshi, and tags on fanfics, often feature a standard ordering of seme then uke which is.respected by pretty much anybody who knows about it. This means that, for example, in a ship between Naruto and Sasuke, we'd have this:- Naruto x Sasuke (NaruSasu) Naruto is top. Sasuke is bottom.
- Sasuke x Naruto (SasuNaru) Sasuke is top. Naruto is Bottom.
What's the X of Seme X Uke Called in Japanese?
The "x" in aseme x uke pairing is called kakeru かける in Japanese. For example: seme kakeru uke 攻め×受け. The word kakeru is a verb, by the way, which means "to multiply" (among other things.) This also has the implication that the x isn't a letter, but a multiplication symbol. (you know how "slash" is called "slash" because of the / character? Same thing.)Types of Seme and Uke
Moved to its own post: Types of Seme and Uke.Seme Uke in Yuri
Although the most basic and generally accepted definition of seme and uke is "who penetrates" and "who is penetrated," things get a bit complex when these words are used in lesbian fiction, yuri 百合, also called GL or "Girls' Love." That's because women do not have penises. I repeat: women do not have penises. Okay, fine, let's be PC, some trans-women may have penises, but generally speaking women do not have penises. YOU GET THE IDEA. So it wouldn't make much sense if seme and uke were used in lesbian fiction, as it doesn't fit the commonly accepted definition above. And Japanese lesbians don't use the terms seme and uke to talk about on themselves either (the terms they do use are written further below). However, fans of yuri are not LGBT. They are mostly straight men and women. They don't know the terms lesbians would use because, well, they aren't lesbians. All they know is the terms the fandom uses for homosexual shipping, and those terms would be seme and uke used by yaoi fans. Anyway, when yuri fans do use the terms seme and uke, they use it with an alternative, slightly more complicated meaning.Behavioral Definition
The alternative definition, used both by yuri fans and some yaoi fans, is the following:- seme 攻め Takes lead in relationship. Makes the advances.
- uke 受け Is led in a relationship. Gets advanced on.
Heterosexual Seme and Uke
Of course there had to be a section on this too. In heterosexual fiction, straight couples shipping, or as it's unbelievably called in Japan, NL, "Normal Love," the words seme and uke are also used, although rarely. And there's a good reason for this. Saying who is seme and uke in male-female relationship is close to redundant, it's naturally the guy who is seme, and naturally the girl who is uke. But there is an exception: when the gender roles are reversed, the guy becomes uke, the girl becomes seme. Depending on which definition of seme and uke you want to use this can mean two things. If you're talking sexual seme and uke, then the girl needs to penetrate the guy somehow to be seme, probably with some sort of sex toy. If you are talking about behavioral seme and uke, then the guy needs to be passive and the girl is assertive.LGBT Criticism
Remember when I said that in BL people usually consider seme to be the "man" and uke the "woman"? Well, some homosexuals in Japan find this idea both sexist and homophobic. Yep. Homophobic because instead of acknowledging it's a man-man or woman-woman relationship, it pretends it to be a man-woman relationship, which can be taken as heteronormative, promoting the idea that hetero must be normal. And sexist because it attempts to define what is the role of a man and a woman in a relationship. However, I'd like to remind you that gay and lesbian fanfics, manga and anime are mostly produced by and consumed by straight people, not lesbians or gays, for fantasy entertainment, not for realism education. So while the criticism is valid, I think it's like a plumber saying the Mario franchise wrongly portrays his profession. Sure he's right, but nobody really cares. Manga that's made for gays, not for straight people, tends not to care as much about seme and uke. These are usually classified as bara 薔薇 in Japan. A fan of BL is not necessarily, and is often not, a fan of the bara genre, and vice-versa is also true. In other words, if countless fans of BL, who are mostly straight women, and vastly outnumber gays and lesbians, wanted to buy realistic, non-homophobic, non-sexist gay manga, then they would. And if they did, bara would be a bigger genre than BL, which it isn't. So imho making this sort of criticism toward BL is like telling someone to not buy what they like, and instead buy what you like, and I don't see why any fujoshi or anyone else would buy stuff they don't like and don't want for themselves to please people they don't know nor will ever meet. It's their money, let them burn it however they want.Tachi, Neko タチ, ネコ
The words seme and uke are very common in the fanfic and doujinshi world, but not outside of it. This is because those fans of yaoi and yuri are usually straight. They have no reason to use gay terms in the real world. In the real world, real gays and lesbians would use these instead:- tachi タチ Top.
- neko ネコ Bottom.
- riba リバ Versatile. (from "reversible")
2 comments:
UnknownOctober 15, 2018 at 5:10 PMsuper great and thorough explanation! Thanks for explaining everything! I was really curious about this and feel a lot more informed.
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UnknownJanuary 25, 2019 at 5:37 PM"Given this meaning, it probably originated from sports or martial arts, however, do note that the opposite of seme would normally be mamori 守り, "defense," and not uke"Actually in MA (aikido, judo) uke (受け) used - the one who "receives" the technique, and tori(取り) or nage (投げ) who applies the technique.
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