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• Thread starter Thread starter zxkevinxz
• Start date Start date Jun 7, 2020

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zxkevinxz

Newb

Joined May 20, 2020 Member Number 657 Messages 165 Loc DFW I ran into some of y'all somewhere and there was a used oil fed rocket heater. I think they are also referred to as orchard heaters. Anyone got good info on these? Seems pretty easy to build but I don't want to do the R&D.

Clb

another toyota from P.R.K

Joined May 19, 2020 Member Number 32 Messages 5,062 Loc Napa We used a wick fed "smudge pot" out here not sure what you are looking for is a smudge pot...

zxkevinxz

Newb

Joined May 20, 2020 Member Number 657 Messages 165 Loc DFW It's a cylindrical canister about 18" in diameter and 8" high that has a fire on top of the fuel, that exhausts out the jet and is re-fed with fumes into the middle of the exhaust fire. They used to use them to keep orchards warm. very effective. I think it was at tackett creek challenge last year.

Paragon

Member #42 if by Bus

Joined May 19, 2020 Member Number 122 Messages 2,091 Loc Jackson, MS USA choofa

tracyb

Well-known member

Joined May 21, 2020 Member Number 907 Messages 750 Loc San Juan Islands demon heater - Google Search i've been wanting one for some time. outside of orchard country they are retarded expensive, and hard to come by. its the og waste oil burner *and yeah i've only ever known them as smudge pots. my understanding is the first ones didn't have the exhaust gas return and made them very smokey/ sooty. what i want is a replacement for a campfire. clean, but no skeeters and no chasing wood. Last edited: Jun 7, 2020

Pmedic920

The ‘Stache

Joined May 22, 2020 Member Number 1156 Messages 220 Loc On the lake, Livingston Tx. https://youtu.be/HSAKUtL-XyA [youtube]HSAKUtL-XyA[/youtube] the YT has some decent vids Last edited: Jun 8, 2020

2Kan-_-

Active member

Joined May 19, 2020 Member Number 46 Messages 28 Loc OR They work really well we use them for winter camping trips when not everyone can be by the fire. I just use diesel in mine 5 gallons goes 6-8 hours. No bad fumes you can put you hand over the exhaust for a few seconds and not be burnt. Shutting it off seems kinda sketchy but really not after you do it a few times. Just shut off the air draft and flip over the lid. edit: getting it started is actually harder then I would have thought, a few rolled up paper towels and a torch. Don't expect to light the fuel by it's self. Last edited: Jun 8, 2020

IUsedtoBendCars

Professional Lurker

Joined May 19, 2020 Member Number 152 Messages 186 Loc Nevada 25 years ago we used those on drill rigs in the winter. Really cold diesel is a trick to start. One driller liked to put a gallon of gas in when he filled it. That one always started easy Another driller put a 6' long piece of pipe on his for a chimney. We could get the bottom 3' of the pipe glowing.

welndmn

Well Done Man

Joined May 21, 2020 Member Number 1008 Messages 928 Loc Concord, CA So who has the proper way to use one? A friend game me one, and the people that talk about them on Youtube seem stupid.

Pony_Driver

Well-known member

Joined May 25, 2020 Member Number 1362 Messages 2,246 Now I apparently need to build a smudge pot.

Byro

Lurkin’

Joined May 19, 2020 Member Number 252 Messages 1,448 Loc East Canton, OH

welndmn said: So who has the proper way to use one? A friend game me one, and the people that talk about them on Youtube seem stupid. Click to expand...

Flip carb open, flip top lid open, stick propane torch inside and let it get going, mine will sometimes smoke out of the top for a while until it “pops” Close carb lid and adjust to desired flow. I like to let the stack glow just at the bottom of the louvers a bit, any more and it seems like a waste of fuel. I run a mix of say 5 gallons of diesel to 2 or so gallons used oil/tranny fluid. No gear oil! That shit smells worse when it’s burning.

Clb

another toyota from P.R.K

Joined May 19, 2020 Member Number 32 Messages 5,062 Loc Napa Pic of the new age " smudge pot"?

tracyb

Well-known member

Joined May 21, 2020 Member Number 907 Messages 750 Loc San Juan Islands

Clb said: Pic of the new age " smudge pot"? Click to expand...

from link above

zxkevinxz

Newb

Joined May 20, 2020 Member Number 657 Messages 165 Loc DFW Prolly don't need the butterfly adapter. Y'all think stainless steel would work for the material of the whole thing?

spareparts

Well-known member

Joined May 21, 2020 Member Number 1015 Messages 51 I've got one made by Red Cap, apparently they give Osha the fits when talking about them. They had a buy back of the things or something like that due to some law suits. They work good, but you have to start it in order, and shut it off in order. DO NOT TRY TO ADD FUEL WHILE ITS STILL WARM!!!! Start up is as previously mentioned. Shut down should be close the carb till it cools down, then close the damper, and cover the cap. I did it out of order once and it sounded like a shot gun. If you try to cap it while still hot, it will smolder for hours. I run 50/50 waste oil and diesel. It runs smoother and smokes less the more diesel you use. Wait till its cool to the touch before adding any more fuel

Clb

another toyota from P.R.K

Joined May 19, 2020 Member Number 32 Messages 5,062 Loc Napa

tracyb said: from link above filedata/fetch?id=32835&d=1591657313 filedata/fetch?id=32836&d=1591657375 Click to expand...

yup that's an old school unit on the right. Brb. post one said rocket heater... I thought of brb https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour..._t9pncRV7engne Thanx fer the pic... Last edited: Dec 6, 2020

Clemson13

Evernoob is a douchcanoe

Joined May 19, 2020 Member Number 218 Messages 441 Loc Upstate SC I want a couple of these things badly. Unfortunately they seem to be $$ to buy used in upstate SC. I would love to see some homemade designs, i know i can slap one together, but i suspect that there are some key engineering specs to make them work correctly.

Byro

Lurkin’

Joined May 19, 2020 Member Number 252 Messages 1,448 Loc East Canton, OH

Clemson13 said: I want a couple of these things badly. Unfortunately they seem to be $$ to buy used in upstate SC. I would love to see some homemade designs, i know i can slap one together, but i suspect that there are some key engineering specs to make them work correctly. Click to expand...

I somehow found one in NE OH. My friends always talk about making one, “it’s just some flue with louvers” I think there is more to it though. The cone length, where the recycler tube is at, there is definitely some science to it. Id like to find one of the shorties like this one.

Lilyota

RIP 7/22/2023

Joined May 19, 2020 Member Number 26 Messages 1,221 Loc Bolivar MO Here in sunny Ca they aren't carb compliant. So usually when you see them they are in huge piles. I have one and got a warning from the local air guy that I couldn't use it...It was on a job site. I use it to burn waste oils but it stinks like hell. For get togethers I usually just put diesel in it. It just takes a turbo torch to light it. They all need a reinforced bottom corner though...Form rolling them around.

Clb

another toyota from P.R.K

Joined May 19, 2020 Member Number 32 Messages 5,062 Loc Napa I run kerosene, when the girls are around..

Stix

Resident hick....

Joined May 19, 2020 Member Number 344 Messages 247 Loc Out in the rice We’d feed empty beer cans into ours. 100% vaporize em.

Clb

another toyota from P.R.K

Joined May 19, 2020 Member Number 32 Messages 5,062 Loc Napa Oh and carb can bite me!

Sceep

🖕___ 😆___ 🖕

Joined May 19, 2020 Member Number 157 Messages 1,860 Loc Central NM Use the hell outtah mine since wood fire only happens 2-3x a year here. Too windy and to dry to burn wood.

IUsedtoBendCars

Professional Lurker

Joined May 19, 2020 Member Number 152 Messages 186 Loc Nevada

Sceep said: Use the hell outtah mine since wood fire only happens 2-3x a year here. Too windy and to dry to burn wood. Click to expand...

Damn. You must have added some gas in the fuel to get that much flame out of it. Or my memory of how much flame you get is slipping.

Sceep

🖕___ 😆___ 🖕

Joined May 19, 2020 Member Number 157 Messages 1,860 Loc Central NM

IUsedtoBendCars said: Damn. You must have added some gas in the fuel to get that much flame out of it. Or my memory of how much flame you get is slipping. Click to expand...

nah, gas is too expensive. nothing but used oil/atf just gotta run it wide open.

Mr. Mindless

Well-known member

Joined May 27, 2020 Member Number 1584 Messages 214 Loc Rochester NY I never saw one until I went to KOH. Still haven't brought one home with me but one of these years I will.

TOMS97ZJ

What?

Joined May 20, 2020 Member Number 592 Messages 289 Loc Japatul Valley, CA Of course I had to look in CL. 120$ doesn’t seem bad. https://sandiego.craigslist.org/esd/snw/d/ramona-smudge-pot/7136859996.html

GiS

Active member

Joined May 25, 2020 Member Number 1378 Messages 28 Ive had no problem adding to an already burning smudge, I use a flexible metal funnel like you'd use to fill your transmission or something similar. Never tried adding to a warm but extinguished smudge ... I brought a handful of them back to Canada after KOH this year.

Arps

Well-known member

Joined May 19, 2020 Member Number 165 Messages 675 Loc NE Indiana I have no use for one of these, but much want!

zxkevinxz

Newb

Joined May 20, 2020 Member Number 657 Messages 165 Loc DFW I have some greenhorns that need to familiarize themselves with some of the equipment we use. So I gave 'em a project! Homeboy "welding" the can together is struggling. ..

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