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WoW Classic Mists of Pandaria Classic Discussion Séifér-auchindoun June 8, 2022, 1:42pm 1 Hi guys,I’ve only levelled casually through Classic & TBC, so have very little gold to my name. I’m getting ready for Wrath but I’m hoping someone can tell me whether TBC flying is a pre-requisite to unlock Northrend flying?I’m trying to figure out the most cost-effective approach to these expensive flying skills.Cheers, Luke1 Like Devren-pyrewood-village June 8, 2022, 1:50pm 2 Northrend flying isn’t a skill paired to expert riding, for example, it’s a separate entity allowing you to use your already existing flying (riding) skill in Northrend.The basic flying skill only costs about 700g which is very easily obtained. You do need 100% ‘epic’ riding to buy the first flying skill. Do keep in mind the slow flying will change from 60% to 150% in Wrath.1 Like Miylee-twilights-hammer June 8, 2022, 1:50pm 3 You need the base level flying, not the 280% flying.Don’t worry about gold, by the time you get to 77 (required for flying), you’ll have made enough gold from quests and vendor trash to afford it, as well as the cold weather flying skill.2 Likes Cabbagestew-outland June 8, 2022, 2:08pm 4 You need the flying skill from TBC, but remember that costs for the riding/flying skill changes during the next expansion. I believe to only a few gold for 150/225 skill.What you need for wotlk is just the extra ‘buff’ cold weather flying on top of the flying skill so you can use it in Northrend.Also when you’re level 77 you can borrow a flying mount for free that will only work in 3 zones, but still.1 Like Taariaa-antonidas June 9, 2022, 1:28pm 5 Yes its only 2 or 3 zones but i say better then nothing^^1 Like Middlefingèr-kazzak June 9, 2022, 1:30pm 6 Also IIRC,In storm peaks & another zone, you get borrowed flying when you do quests there. But you’ll need only the first flying skill to be able to learn Cold weather flying.1 Like Kraktor-rexxar (Kraktor) June 9, 2022, 2:57pm 7 You remember correctly. But what get forgotten is when TBC is over flying will get cheaper. First it whas tied to Honorhold/Thrallmar Reputation later then to Stormwind/Orgrimmar, so if you do not have flying I would recommend you do either HH/TM and SW/OG Repfarming so 280% flying is getting affordable. Until you have the money you could instead lend yourself a mount.1 Like Middlefingèr-kazzak June 9, 2022, 3:28pm 8 That is correct, the first fly skill with the mount will cost around ~5-600ish ? Epic fly will be 5K that will drop down to 4250 again with reps. That’s for skill only not including the mount1 Like Kraktor-rexxar (Kraktor) June 9, 2022, 4:10pm 9 250 base or 200 if you exalted and another 100 Gold for the mount. 280% Flying will only be reduced by reputation of either Honor Hould/Thrallmar or Vanguard/Offensive Reputation so 5000 will be down to 4000 on Exalted.With WotLK actually came the riding reducement so 60% riding is now at level 20 for 4 Gold to learn, 100% on Level 40 for 50 Gold1 Like Jóóló-drakthul June 9, 2022, 6:02pm 10 it’s 1000g 78 lvl for coldweather flying if i remember correctly

so you only need 1000g when you start WOTLK pretty cheap1 Like Vanillataur-nethergarde-keep June 9, 2022, 6:55pm 11 1000 G yes, but at level 77. And it requires riding (150) which cost 600 G and requires level 60. I have old screenies

1 Like Cabbagestew-outland June 9, 2022, 7:06pm 12 Is it? I’m looking at the wotlkdb database and it says 50G for old 150 skill, but im not sure either. I think both 150 and 225 should be cheaper, while 300 only gets the reputation discount. Vanillataur-nethergarde-keep June 9, 2022, 7:10pm 13 I can only tell how it was January 20, 2009 - that’s the date on my screenies

Talking to Hira Snowdawn, the Cold Weather Flying Trainer at Krasus’ Landing in Dalaran. Jóóló-drakthul June 9, 2022, 7:26pm 14 right now maybe in TBC yes…but in wotlk flying cost around 200 gold and wotlk flying is 1k so basically if you make your char in wotlk it will cost you like 1200g first riding is like few gold at lvl 20 during wotlk and 40 is 50g or some like that

Wotlk killed off the prestige of having flying mount Vanillataur-nethergarde-keep June 9, 2022, 7:29pm 15 These screenines are from the old Wrath. Won’t the prices be the same in Classic Wrath as they were first time around? Kraktor-rexxar (Kraktor) June 10, 2022, 1:04am 16

Is it? I’m looking at the wotlkdb database and it says 50G for old 150 skill, but im not sure either. I think both 150 and 225 should be cheaper, while 300 only gets the reputation discount.

These screenines are from the old Wrath. Won’t the prices be the same in Classic Wrath as they were first time around?

From Patchstand WotLK Classic starts from the last Patch and there it is 60% Riding Lvl 20 4 Gold 100% Riding Lvl 40 50 Gold150% Flying Lvl 60 250 Gold 280% Flying Lvl 70 5000 GoldOf course under the assumption you buy this as a forsaken or Blood Elf that is still neutral with Orgrimmar as in WotLK for every riding skill except cold weather flying you get reputation discounts.I mean maybe the change it as they changed the Dungeonfinder too but it seems unlikely for me.1 Like Cabbagestew-outland June 10, 2022, 1:31am 17

60% Riding Lvl 20 4 Gold 100% Riding Lvl 40 50 Gold

150% Flying Lvl 60 250 Gold

Yes, so if you have an alt without 100% ground mount and 60% flying and you’re not in a hurry, it might be best to wait for pre-patch and save yourself over 1000 gold right there.1 Like Leroch-earthen-ring June 10, 2022, 6:05am 18

150% Flying Lvl 60 250 Gold

Are you sure about this? I started playing somewhere close to wrath and I remember running around in Outlands with ground mounts for a long time with my many DK alts, flying was possible at level 68. Or it could be that I was so broke that I had not enough gold to buy flying earlier

Vanillataur-nethergarde-keep June 10, 2022, 6:53am 19

Kraktor:

150% Flying Lvl 60 250 Gold

150 % flying (Journeyman) required level 60 and cost 600 G in January 2009 - early Wrath still - so you could very well, same as me , have been too poor to get it

From Patchstand WotLK Classic starts from the last Patch and there it is 60% Riding Lvl 20 4 Gold 100% Riding Lvl 40 50 Gold

150% Flying Lvl 60 250 Gold 280% Flying Lvl 70 5000 Gold

Of course under the assumption you buy this as a forsaken or Blood Elf that is still neutral with Orgrimmar as in WotLK for every riding skill except cold weather flying you get reputation discounts.

I mean maybe the change it as they changed the Dungeonfinder too but it seems unlikely for me.

They sure must have lowered the prices somewhere between Jan. 2009 and December 2009 where pacth 3.3.0 went live.2 Likes Vanillataur-nethergarde-keep June 10, 2022, 7:01am 20

They sure must have lowered the prices somewhere between Jan. 2009 and December 2009 where pacth 3.3.0 went live.

found! Patch 3.2: Mounts

The cast time for summoning any ground or flying mount is now 1.5 seconds, down from 3 seconds.

Apprentice Riding (Skill 75): Can now be learned at level 20 for 4 G. Mail will be sent to players who reach level 20 directing them to the riding trainer.

Journeyman Riding (Skill 150): Can now be learned at level 40 for 50 G. Mail will be sent to players who reach level 40 directing them back to the riding trainer.

Expert Riding (Skill 225): Can now be learned at level 60 for 600 G from trainers in Honor Hold or Thrallmar. Faction discounts now apply (Honor Hold for Alliance; Thrallmar for Horde). Flight speed at this skill level has been increased to 150% of run speed, up from 60%.

Artisan Riding (Skill 300): Faction discounts now apply (Honor Hold or Valiance Expedition for Alliance; Thrallmar or Warsong Offensive for Horde).

In order to further equalize the number of purchasable mounts available to each race, a new 60% speed ground mount has been added for night elves, and a new 100% speed ground mount has been added for the undead.Flying over Dalaran and Wintergrasp is now possible so long as players keep a healthy distance above the ground.2 Likesnext page →