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  1. 16-Mar-2011, 10:53 #1 Hugo Zhang
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    Frame size for 14x17 and 16x20 Print

    I have finally have some contact prints of 14x17 and 16x20 sizes that I want to hang them on the wall. What frame size do you use for these sizes? Frame Destination does not even have cut mat boards of 14x17 and for 16x20 they have frames of 20x24 and 24x28. Do you have to tell them the exact sizes of your prints when you order as the film size is about about 1/4" short on each side? The subject matter is landscapes and seascapes. Thanks.
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  2. 16-Mar-2011, 11:04 #2 SW Rick
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    Re: Frame size for 14x17 and 16x20 Print

    Hugo, what kind of camera could you have that would produce contact prints of such dimensions? If you have a 16x20 piece of art, one school of thought says to mount in a 20x24 frame, with the backing/overmat 20x24 and the inside dimension of the mat cutout 15.5x19.5. You may want to have the top-to-bottom dimensions weighted so the bottom height is larger than the top. If you want a larger "frame", you need to add some length/width to the above outside dimensions. Hope that helps! Rick
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  3. 16-Mar-2011, 11:27 #3 ljb0904
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    Re: Frame size for 14x17 and 16x20 Print

    I would think he would have at least a 16x20" camera :P I haven't done 14x17s, but 16x20s I typically overmat up to 20x24. I don't really like the dimensions of 22x28.
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  4. 16-Mar-2011, 12:45 #4 Jim Becia
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    Re: Frame size for 14x17 and 16x20 Print

    Quote Originally Posted by Hugo Zhang View Post I have finally have some contact prints of 14x17 and 16x20 sizes that I want to hang them on the wall. What frame size do you use for these sizes? Frame Destination does not even have cut mat boards of 14x17 and for 16x20 they have frames of 20x24 and 24x28. Do you have to tell them the exact sizes of your prints when you order as the film size is about about 1/4" short on each side? The subject matter is landscapes and seascapes. Thanks. Hugo, The 20x24 would work for the 14x17s but I would use the 24x28s for the 16x20 size. I personally do not like a 2 inch mat around a 16x20 image. Looks like you "squeezed" the image to make it fit, there's no "breathing" room. With either size, I would think at least 3 inches of mat around the image would be the minimum to use. (Had a gallery and frame shop for nearly 17 years, so I'm speaking from that experience, for what it's worth.) I think you have to decide how you are going to mat them and to what size. You also need to decide if you are going to have a border around your image or if you are going to overmat. As for frames, there are some nice metal profiles out there and the nice thing is that they can be custom ordered to any size and are a piece of cake to put together. Jim Becia
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  5. 16-Mar-2011, 13:01 #5 jp
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    Re: Frame size for 14x17 and 16x20 Print

    If you want to regularly make this stuff presentable in mats/frames, it's pretty easy to DIY. Get a logan board-mounted mat cutter, some foamcore, some mat board, some hinging tape, and some metal frames online, and you're doing it. I get my frames from framefit.com and glass from a local glass shop. I keep in stock black and silver frames in a coupe of common sizes. I'd probably choose 24x20 and 24x30 (50% bigger to be proportional) frames.
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  6. 18-Mar-2011, 11:40 #6 fdi
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    Re: Frame size for 14x17 and 16x20 Print

    Hugo, You can just select “Custom” which is the first size choice on our website (I am the owner of Frame Destination, Inc.) in the frame or mat size pull-down. We only have a $2.50 custom setup fee. If you want the mat to overlap 1/8” on all 4 sides and a 3 inch visible mat border you can use these mat board dimensions: For 14x17 artwork: Inner Width: 13-3/4” Inner Height: 16-3/4” Top/Side/Bottom Borders: 3-1/8” This results in a picture frame size of 20x23 inches. For 16x20 artwork: Inner Width: 15-3/4” Inner Height: 19-3/4” Top/Side/Bottom Borders: 3-1/8” This results in a picture frame size of 22x26 inches. I agree about the 20x24-picture frame size being a little tight for a 16x20. The 24x28 framing size gives a nice gallery look but can be large for many walls. We did not make 22x26 a standard size because we already have 80 mat sizes and our website supports custom mat sizes. Cheers, Mark Frame Destination, Inc. Facebook
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  7. 18-Mar-2011, 12:07 #7 Hugo Zhang
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    Re: Frame size for 14x17 and 16x20 Print

    Hi Mark, Could not find your promo code, but just dropped $600 for some 16x20 frames and mat boards anyway. I will order some 14x17 stuff later after I sell some of my lens collections. I am broke now for the vanity of hanging my own pictures on my wall! Hugo PS: Thanks everybody for your wonderful ideas!
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  8. 18-Mar-2011, 12:49 #8 Vaughn
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    Re: Frame size for 14x17 and 16x20 Print

    My example for 16x20 is here: http://www.largeformatphotography.in...2&postcount=21
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  9. 18-Mar-2011, 17:47 #9 Jim Fitzgerald
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    Re: Frame size for 14x17 and 16x20 Print

    Hugo, I use FDI all of the time. I still have to get some 14x17 contact prints. Going to Yosemite this weekend so maybe I'll have something in a few days. I'm thinking 20x24 for my 14x17 carbon prints. I still have to lay it out before I order any mats and frames. Like Mark says go into the custom size and you can have them get you what you need. The set up is only 2 bucks. Seems like I'm doing custom all of the time. The 8 ply mats are great.
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  10. 18-Mar-2011, 19:44 #10 Kerik Kouklis
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    Re: Frame size for 14x17 and 16x20 Print

    I use 22x25 mattes for my 14x17 prints.
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