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newest » message 1: by Didi (new) Jan 05, 2011 03:18PM
Its physically impossible for Edaward to get Bella pregnant. he has no blood. Therfore he cannot get and erection. Or ejaculate. See? This was an error. reply | flag message 2: by ~♥Alyssa♥~ (new) Jan 06, 2011 05:36PM
....Haha, I hate arguing with you LittleDolphin, but I personally think that's a cop-out on Stephenie Meyer's part. If you're squeamish, you may want to skip over this.... In reproduction, semen isn't what makes a baby. It's the sperm in the semen. Sperm are living cells. Edward is dead - his cells have been burned and crystallized by venom, as described by Stephenie Meyer herself. Therefore his sex cells (sperm) are also dead. Dead cells aren't functional. His sperm couldn't pass on DNA and fertilize an egg. So no, it really shouldn't be possible for him to get Bella pregnant.And if she's brave enough to put sex in her books (which younger audiences read), I don't see why she couldn't use the word "semen." However, because this is a fictional book, I am perfectly happy to accept the excuse "magic." :) reply | flag message 3: by ~♥Alyssa♥~ (new) Jan 06, 2011 07:03PM
Sigh. Well, we could agree to disagree. ;)Yeah, I just went and read her explanation on her website. I don't really agree with it (specialized semen-venom is NOT a replacement for a living cell needed to reproduce with a human) but since it is her book, I'll ignore it and give her the benefit of the doubt.I suppose there aren't any scenes, but even "implied" would make it PG-13 if it were a movie. Yeah, in all fantasy books there's going to be something unrealistic that doesn't make sense in real life. So maybe I just won't say anymore. :) reply | flag message 4: by Didi (new) Jan 08, 2011 04:09AM
Whoooaa! I wasnt really expecting any replies to this. I was thinking when i read the book that its actually impossible for Edward to get *cough* um hard . Because all the blood rushes to your private parts right? When your ... um excited. And so . Since he had no blood. Aha. I didnt know Stephenie had a explanation ! Thanks for that ! i just , dont get the concept of dead cells (inside a vampire, which is dead) ,and dead special vampire semen having the ability (when inside a woman) to help create a baby . When the venom or semen , is actually dead. I dunno. Im a bit confused. reply | flag message 5: by ~♥Alyssa♥~ (new) Jan 09, 2011 02:10PM
My biggest problem with her explanation is that specialized venom isn't a replacement for living sex cells. Eggs can only be fertilized by sperm because they are living cells that carry the specific amount of DNA (23 chromosomes - not 23 pairs) to the egg. They are alive. None of Edward's cells are alive, and even if he still has sperm in his specialized semen-venom, the sperm is no longer functional. Besides, somehow vampires magically grow tow new pairs of chromosomes when they are changed (Carlisle says they have 25 pairs). The two extra pairs wouldn't just recombine with themselves. It doesn't match up to a human's 23 pairs, and that's the essential part of reproduction at the cellular level.But yeah... since it's her book and she admits it's not really possible, like I said, I'll be satisfied. I just don't like how she seems to think it's a logical scientific explanation when it's NOT. And I like when authors can find a way to make fantasy seem possible, which she really doesn't. reply | flag back to top post a comment » Add a reference: Book Author Search for a book to add a reference add: link cover Author: add: link photo Share
newest » message 1: by Didi (new) Jan 05, 2011 03:18PM
Its physically impossible for Edaward to get Bella pregnant. he has no blood. Therfore he cannot get and erection. Or ejaculate. See? This was an error. reply | flag message 2: by ~♥Alyssa♥~ (new) Jan 06, 2011 05:36PM
....Haha, I hate arguing with you LittleDolphin, but I personally think that's a cop-out on Stephenie Meyer's part. If you're squeamish, you may want to skip over this.... In reproduction, semen isn't what makes a baby. It's the sperm in the semen. Sperm are living cells. Edward is dead - his cells have been burned and crystallized by venom, as described by Stephenie Meyer herself. Therefore his sex cells (sperm) are also dead. Dead cells aren't functional. His sperm couldn't pass on DNA and fertilize an egg. So no, it really shouldn't be possible for him to get Bella pregnant.And if she's brave enough to put sex in her books (which younger audiences read), I don't see why she couldn't use the word "semen." However, because this is a fictional book, I am perfectly happy to accept the excuse "magic." :) reply | flag message 3: by ~♥Alyssa♥~ (new) Jan 06, 2011 07:03PM
Sigh. Well, we could agree to disagree. ;)Yeah, I just went and read her explanation on her website. I don't really agree with it (specialized semen-venom is NOT a replacement for a living cell needed to reproduce with a human) but since it is her book, I'll ignore it and give her the benefit of the doubt.I suppose there aren't any scenes, but even "implied" would make it PG-13 if it were a movie. Yeah, in all fantasy books there's going to be something unrealistic that doesn't make sense in real life. So maybe I just won't say anymore. :) reply | flag message 4: by Didi (new) Jan 08, 2011 04:09AM
Whoooaa! I wasnt really expecting any replies to this. I was thinking when i read the book that its actually impossible for Edward to get *cough* um hard . Because all the blood rushes to your private parts right? When your ... um excited. And so . Since he had no blood. Aha. I didnt know Stephenie had a explanation ! Thanks for that ! i just , dont get the concept of dead cells (inside a vampire, which is dead) ,and dead special vampire semen having the ability (when inside a woman) to help create a baby . When the venom or semen , is actually dead. I dunno. Im a bit confused. reply | flag message 5: by ~♥Alyssa♥~ (new) Jan 09, 2011 02:10PM
My biggest problem with her explanation is that specialized venom isn't a replacement for living sex cells. Eggs can only be fertilized by sperm because they are living cells that carry the specific amount of DNA (23 chromosomes - not 23 pairs) to the egg. They are alive. None of Edward's cells are alive, and even if he still has sperm in his specialized semen-venom, the sperm is no longer functional. Besides, somehow vampires magically grow tow new pairs of chromosomes when they are changed (Carlisle says they have 25 pairs). The two extra pairs wouldn't just recombine with themselves. It doesn't match up to a human's 23 pairs, and that's the essential part of reproduction at the cellular level.But yeah... since it's her book and she admits it's not really possible, like I said, I'll be satisfied. I just don't like how she seems to think it's a logical scientific explanation when it's NOT. And I like when authors can find a way to make fantasy seem possible, which she really doesn't. reply | flag back to top post a comment » Add a reference: Book Author Search for a book to add a reference add: link cover Author: add: link photo Share
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