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Camille Guest Guest Avatar Velvet S4 FILMING UPDATES (may include spoilers!) Jul 28, 2016 13:32:02 GMT -5 via mobile
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Post by Camille on Jul 28, 2016 13:32:02 GMT -5

LOL...My exact thoughts, go decorate, play bridge, do charity work or anything. That was far from her mind, she wanted to spend every waking moment with Alberto, even wanted to lunch with him, go figure. I have mixed emotions about Isabel, I think she choose wealth over love when she married her husband over Emilio. She didn't want that for Alberto, Christina & Barbara got in her nerves too. A women knows a viper when she sees one. I think the storyline would have been more interesting if she would have surfaced while her husband was still alive
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Post by lillou on Jul 28, 2016 15:41:26 GMT -5

Outch! Indeed :/
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Post by Lara on Jul 28, 2016 16:17:16 GMT -5

LOL...My exact thoughts, go decorate, play bridge, do charity work or anything. That was far from her mind, she wanted to spend every waking moment with Alberto, even wanted to lunch with him, go figure. I have mixed emotions about Isabel, I think she choose wealth over love when she married her husband over Emilio. She didn't want that for Alberto, Christina & Barbara got in her nerves too. A women knows a viper when she sees one. I think the storyline would have been more interesting if she would have surfaced while her husband was still aliveYup. I get that they had to keep her around, but it was overkill. She could have done a charity event associated with the store, but still her own thing, but no, she had to be in Alberto's face 24/7. Yeah, Isabel clearly didn't like Cristina and I'm sure not Barbara. I think Cristina defending Rafael and Gloria was what did it. I don't think that could have happened since that was the whole mystery in the beginning was her being alive and he died the first ep.
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Post by northboundtrain on Jul 28, 2016 20:25:07 GMT -5

Minor filming updates...FT (Marco) posted this, but Google Translate has rendered the caption totally unreadable, so I have no idea if he's saying he's finished with filming or what's going on:
http://instagram.com/p/BIaBLFwgYKW
Proof of more Cristina/Carlos interaction? MV (Cristina) posted this today. Not sure it's a recent filming pic, though:
http://instagram.com/p/BIZl9CtgMbx
She also posted this, which is definitely old because we've seen her and AL (Pedro) in these clothes and against this background before:
http://instagram.com/p/BIaRybogKd_
One of the directors posted this -- more Cristina/Marco:
http://instagram.com/p/BIZJ4wijpdO
And this from MH:
http://instagram.com/p/BIZjX7JhTAE
And this from the stills photographer:
http://instagram.com/p/BIaQs9fjn5F
Jul 28, 2016 9:56:01 GMT -5 Camille said:Thank you Northboundtrain for clarifying the age gaps & time gaps of A&A. I didn't know that Paula was older than MAS in real life.You're welcome! Yeah, PE is a bit older than MAS...what's interesting, though, is that several of the other actresses on the show are at least a little bit older than the actors they're paired with -- MH (Clara) is older than JR (Mateo), MV (Cristina) is also older than MAS, and CF (Rita) is older than AL (Pedro).The exceptions to the rule are MG (Patricia) and AS (Barbara), both of whom are younger than the men they are paired with.But it's definitely different from U.S. shows, where the actors all tend to be older (sometimes much older!) than the actresses they're paired with.Looks like I'm the only who didn't know they weren't really in New York. LOL🙄Hey, I would have thought the same except I've been following the pictures obsessively, so I figured we would have heard if they were really there.Those are nice pictures of PE, she's beautiful and I can't understand why the writers chose to hide her true beautiful behind those wigs.In the case of PE, it appears to be her choice, not the writers or producers. I found an interview with her from S1 where she's asked about the wigs and she says she likes them because it means she doesn't have to sit through hair styling in the morning.I agree Christina is a mess mentally and having a sister in-law like Barbara does not help. Barbara gave Christina a lot of bad advice & she was a bad influence.Yep. Cristina needed someone the opposite of Barbara -- someone who would have sat down with her, sympathized, and then rooted for her to find a new direction for her life.Jul 28, 2016 13:10:35 GMT -5 Lara said:That's possible. I'm glad they went with MAS and PE. I can't imagine anyone else playing their parts and I think the ages of late 20s/early 30s is actually better than having them be 22. I can't see him taking over the business at that age and then everything that happened afterward. I just wish they would have adjusted those first few scripts to reflect that.Yeah, I'm glad they went with MAS and PE, too. I agree that I think seeing them at this age lends a certain weight to the story that wouldn't be there if they were 22 or 23.I wasn't a huge fan either. I don't know if it was the actress or the writing, it was all too quickly done, but I didn't care for the s/l much. I'm glad she didn't she become permanent. I agree about how she should have be a little conflicted. I get that she was more like Ana in personality, but Alberto was married to Cristina. She herself was left by her husband, so I expected more of a balanced viewpoint. The writing against Cristina was a bit too heavy handed in the storyline. I was glad she was wrong about Estabon! I didn't want the wiser, older sage scenario playing out. I don't even think she was even needed, Alberto was working his way back to Ana all season.Originally, I had a problem with Isabel because I was just coming off a show where a previously-thought-to-be-dead parent of a main character turned out to be secretly alive after all, and IMO that was a mistake. So when it turned out Isabel was alive, I groaned. I don't think having her around changed Alberto in a significant way -- all it did for him was ruin his memories of his relationship with his father. Isabel versus Gloria could have been compelling, but the show never did anything with it.And the whole time I kept waiting for "the other side" of the story that would make what Rafael/Gloria did more complicated than just "Hey, let's dump Isabel in Cuba, arrange for her to be held prisoner in the country, and steal her baby" -- but in the end, that's all it turned out to be.All Isabel being alive really did was give JS (Emilio) a meaty story where he got to do more than yell at Pedro or worry about Ana. And that was great for JS, but IMO a lot of other stories could have served a similar function. The writers didn't need Isabel, specifically, to give him good material.That said, I still think class had a lot to do with her dismissal of the thought.I do agree that that played a role too.Which leads me to a question for you ladies.. Do you think it was realistic for this supposed catch of a woman to wait for years for a guy that was never interested in her romantically? Especially because they weren't 20 years old and Cristina's sole purpose was to marry well.I do actually think it was realistic that she waited. Reasons why:1. She doesn't seem like the type who is interested in or comfortable with playing the field. We saw how much trouble she had whenever Barbara wanted to set her up with various men. That makes it easier for me to believe that she was cool waiting around for Alberto to return to Madrid.2. She may have had reason to believe she had a shot with Alberto. We can't know for sure, of course, because we didn't see how they interacted before the show began, but we do know that they used to play together as children and that they used to hang out in London. Alberto and Mateo have both acknowledged that if it weren't for Ana, Alberto could have fallen for Cristina. There may have been some chemistry there, especially when Alberto was bored and lonely in London, to make Cristina think a future relationship was possible when he returned to Madrid.What's Barbara's excuse?This isn't really an excuse, but a possible explanation: she's miserable in her marriage to Enrique, and all of his affairs (we know he had mistresses before Patricia) have left her totally jaded, humiliated, and willing to play dirty tricks to help Cristina "keep" Alberto.So for Barbara it's a distraction, a game -- but also one she thinks she's playing to help Cristina. I do believe she genuinely thinks she has Cristina's best interests at heart. She's just wrong on that score, which I do think she finally realizes at the end when Cristina goes crazy with the scissors.lillou AvatarJul 28, 2016 15:41:26 GMT -5 lillou said:Outch! Indeed :/Yeah, we are still trying to figure those pictures out!
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Post by Lara on Jul 28, 2016 23:39:40 GMT -5

Seems like FT is done filming. It appears highly unlikely that MAS is coming back to film more🙁You're welcome! Yeah, PE is a bit older than MAS...what's interesting, though, is that several of the other actresses on the show are at least a little bit older than the actors they're paired with -- MH (Clara) is older than JR (Mateo), MV (Cristina) is also older than MAS, and CF (Rita) is older than AL (Pedro).The exceptions to the rule are MG (Patricia) and AS (Barbara), both of whom are younger than the men they are paired with.But it's definitely different from U.S. shows, where the actors all tend to be older (sometimes much older!) than the actresses they're paired withI love that! Honestly, you wouldn't even know there was much, if any, age differences. Originally, I had a problem with Isabel because I was just coming off a show where a previously-thought-to-be-dead parent of a main character turned out to be secretly alive after all, and IMO that was a mistake. So when it turned out Isabel was alive, I groaned. I don't think having her around changed Alberto in a significant way -- all it did for him was ruin his memories of his relationship with his father. Isabel versus Gloria could have been compelling, but the show never did anything with it.And the whole time I kept waiting for "the other side" of the story that would make what Rafael/Gloria did more complicated than just "Hey, let's dump Isabel in Cuba, arrange for her to be held prisoner in the country, and steal her baby" -- but in the end, that's all it turned out to be.All Isabel being alive really did was give JS (Emilio) a meaty story where he got to do more than yell at Pedro or worry about Ana. And that was great for JS, but IMO a lot of other stories could have served a similar function. The writers didn't need Isabel, specifically, to give him good material.Yeah, I noticed that Gloria's blackmail storyline disappeared. Emilio got the money back from Gloria (I think), but they never said if she paid off the guy some other way and he never returned. That whole storyline just disappeared. I really don't think they needed it at all. It was pointless, they should have kept it as is, Isabel died when he was a baby. Now they are repeating the dead parent is actually alive scenario with Alberto😡 I thought Emilio and the dance teacher might develop, but that seemed abruptly dropped. It probably wouldn't have gone anywhere, but they could have done more with it. I do actually think it was realistic that she waited. Reasons why:1. She doesn't seem like the type who is interested in or comfortable with playing the field. We saw how much trouble she had whenever Barbara wanted to set her up with various men. That makes it easier for me to believe that she was cool waiting around for Alberto to return to Madrid.2. She may have had reason to believe she had a shot with Alberto. We can't know for sure, of course, because we didn't see how they interacted before the show began, but we do know that they used to play together as children and that they used to hang out in London. Alberto and Mateo have both acknowledged that if it weren't for Ana, Alberto could have fallen for Cristina. There may have been some chemistry there, especially when Alberto was bored and lonely in London, to make Cristina think a future relationship was possible when he returned to Madrid.Not sure about the first point. The scenario with her being set up with the men was weird and not a normal situation. I'm sure when Alberto was away, she went to a lot of social occasions where she could have met a nice, rich guy. I think in her limited scope of thinking, she did believe she had a shot with Alberto. I think maybe in S1 Alberto thought he could fall in love with her, if not for Ana. However, I think by S2, he realized he could never love her and not only because of Ana, but because she was too dependent on her father, too overbearing and into the country club scene. I doubt Alberto was bored or lonely in London for too long😉😛😆 I think it was weird she waited for him, but I guess it played into her unrequited love and subsequent unraveling. What's Barbara's excuse?That was more of a rhetorical question😉 Barbara was just a straight up bitch. She even defended Cristina after she pushed Ana. I think what finally got her was that Cristina unraveled in front of everyone in the scissor scene. Enrique was actually redeemed in my eyes during that entire arc. I really wish we would get some information on S4!!!! At first I thought we were getting spoilers, but we haven't really learned anything besides a wedding happens. I'm dying to know how and when Alberto comes back, well all things Alberto tbh. How Cristina finds out, from Carlos or another source? (I hope she's not still calling herself his widow and trying to pass her kid off as his). I'm guessing either way she finds out, they will come together to conspire to keep the secret. I doubt Alberto is still sending letters, so Cristina intercepting the mail doesn't seem likely. What will happen with the store? I'm interested in what they'll do with Marco and what happens with the Mateo/Clara marriage. Jonas in the workroom will be fun! It's strange, I like R/P but generally find their storylines drawn out and boring. I prefer Rita with her Velvet girls, rather than in her main s/l with Pedro. My big concern is what we've said about a rush s/l with Alberto. If the show ends with S4, then I wish they would have kept A/A together in S3 and had him go off to work overseas. Then they would be together for the limited eps MAS appears in S4. I think we've been cheated out of seeing them in a continuous relationship and for it to end without seeing them happily together for at least 5-6 episodes with no Cristina or Carlos drama would be disappointing. The show doesn't have to only rely on creating angst between the two to keep things interesting.
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Post by northboundtrain on Jul 29, 2016 1:23:02 GMT -5

Jul 28, 2016 23:39:40 GMT -5 Lara said:Seems like FT is done filming. It appears highly unlikely that MAS is coming back to film moreYeah...I was hopeful, but it does seem like time is running out.I thought Emilio and the dance teacher might develop, but that seemed abruptly dropped. It probably wouldn't have gone anywhere, but they could have done more with it.I mentioned the other day that it felt like some S3 stories were dropped...that's another one that seemed to fall by the wayside. I guess it could be that the writers never intended for it to go anywhere permanent but just wanted to show Emilio trying to move on with his life. There was talk even last season of trying to get Concha Velasco on the show -- if they really wanted CV, I'm positive they wanted her FOR JS. So anyone they got in the meantime would have to be a short-term love interest.Not sure about the first point. The scenario with her being set up with the men was weird and not a normal situation. I'm sure when Alberto was away, she went to a lot of social occasions where she could have met a nice, rich guy.True, it was definitely a weird situation, and she was likely also uncomfortable because she was still married. But, I don't know, I've just never gotten the impression from Cristina that she dated much. She struck me more as someone with a romantic idea of "one girl, one guy" -- and for her, that guy was Alberto, so she never bothered with other men.However, I think by S2, he realized he could never love her and not only because of Ana, but because she was too dependent on her father, too overbearing and into the country club scene.Yeah, they had sweet moments in S1, but by S2 those were all gone. He definitely seemed turned off by her actions in defense of her family.I doubt Alberto was bored or lonely in London for too long😉LOL, true!I think it was weird she waited for him, but I guess it played into her unrequited love and subsequent unraveling.Yeah...I mean, I look also at someone like Rita. She was in love with Pedro since they were in the village together, even though for years he treated her like a friend/sister and was crazy about Clara. But she still waited because she was in love with him. The difference between her situation and Cristina's is that eventually Pedro opened his eyes and realized Rita was the one for him, so Rita's waiting paid off. Cristina's waiting didn't, though, because Alberto's love for Ana was truer than Pedro's "love" (lust, really) for Clara.And, as you said, it played a role in her unraveling.That was more of a rhetorical question😉Whoops! Sorry, LOL. I just love analyzing the characters.I really wish we would get some information on S4!!!!I know...the wait is hard. Fortunately, we should start getting promos soon -- if Antena3 follows the same strategy they followed last year, they'll release a series of VERY short teaser promos (just a few seconds long) sometime in early August. Then the first full trailer would follow a few weeks later, just a few days before the premiere in September.Re: Cristina keeping the secret...I'm guessing she'll find out from some other source, not from Carlos, because for her to find out from Carlos he'd either have to tell her (which I don't think he'd ever have reason to do) or just be sloppy enough to get caught. He COULD be sloppy, but it's harder to imagine that happening five years later...as you said, I doubt he's still getting letters, and I doubt he kept the old letters around for Cristina to find. Maybe the mailman could come back and blackmail him and Cristina could overhear? That's possible.Re: Rita/Pedro, yeah, their storylines since they got married haven't worked out that well from my perspective -- Pedro's mother grated, and Rita trying to conceive was just difficult to watch. I figure whatever story they have in S4 will involve Pedro having greater responsibility at the store than he used to have, maybe?JR and MH did both say in interviews that they are very happy with the story for Clara/Mateo this season -- no idea what it is, but if they're excited then I'm looking forward to it.
Last Edit: Jul 29, 2016 1:24:45 GMT -5 by northboundtrain
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Post by victoriavelvet on Jul 29, 2016 7:35:50 GMT -5

How is everyone's Spanish?m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1002359363216850&id=321783471274446Is series 4 the final one??
Jessica Guest Guest Avatar Velvet S4 FILMING UPDATES (may include spoilers!) Jul 29, 2016 9:00:00 GMT -5
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Post by Jessica on Jul 29, 2016 9:00:00 GMT -5

I've been watching Velvet and following this forum since it began. I love reading everyone's ideas and predictions as to what is going to happen in this upcoming season! Thanks so much to the creator! I am so ready for the 4th season, but I just read on IG and then on mizonatv.com that this 4th season is the last of the whole series :( I am so bummed. I was so hoping that after Ana and Alberto reunited that a 5th season would be all about their love story and how it all turns out like they had always hoped it would. I wonder what happened to it being based on ratings during this season and why it's just done?! Also, in the article on mizonatv.com, it says that they are working on a new series called "Fariña" that they believe will surprise their audience and whatnot.
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Post by primusoars on Jul 29, 2016 9:05:04 GMT -5

Yes, according to Ramon Campos. They are developing a new series called "Farina", if I read correctly.
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Post by victoriavelvet on Jul 29, 2016 9:13:14 GMT -5

Oh I'm so sad! Although I don't think I can take any more anxiety from 'will they, won't they?'😂 I know they will all get their happy endings if the end of Gran Hotel is anything to go by, loved how that finished with the old movie style!
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Post by primusoars on Jul 29, 2016 9:18:32 GMT -5

Then we can all go back to our unexciting life and boring jobs.
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Post by suzyvelvet on Jul 29, 2016 10:04:11 GMT -5

Je suis triste, je viens d'apprendre sur le site Mizona TV c'est finie pour VELVET ....La saison 4 sera la dernière.Il n'y aura pas de saison 5...Moi qui espèrait regarder VELVET pendant 10 ans...Je vais me contenter de mes 4 saisons , je ne me lasserai pas de regarder cette belle histoire d'amour entre Aberto et Ana .Merci a tous les acteurs et surtout a MAS et PE....J'ai ri ...J'ai soupiré...J'ai pleuré...et je continue a rire ...a soupirer...a pleurer...a chaque diffusion comme si c'était la première fois...
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Post by northboundtrain on Jul 29, 2016 10:29:10 GMT -5

I just ran the article through Google Translate and it does appear to be the official word that this is the final season.I'm sad about it, especially after MAS and PE said such positive things about a potential S5, but I'm also not 100% shocked...Bambu and Antena3 may have decided that they wanted to be able to plan out that this is the last season now rather than wait for the ratings and make a decision. If they'd left S4 open-ended and the ratings weren't great, Antena3 may have canceled it and with the show already filmed, we may not have had a good conclusion.The article doesn't really give away any spoilers, except to say that this season will focus on ready-to-wear clothes coming to Velvet and changing things there forever. The producers also say that we'll see the romantic ending to Ana/Alberto, what happens to Pedro/Rita, Clara/Mateo, and whether or not Emilio will find love.The new show "Farina" is mentioned, but I can't find any hints online as to what that might be about. It's a common Italian last name and also a place in Australia. So who knows.The article also makes a point I didn't realize, that Velvet is the first Spanish weekly television show of those released since 2010 to make it past the 50 episode mark.In addition to the AL (Humberto), PV (Concha), PP (Adele), and AC (Alberto, Jr.), the press release also lists the following actors who are joining S4:Chisco Amado, Toni Agustí, Iria del Rio, Nando Gonzalez, Gabriel Garbisu, and Naia GuzI'll look them up and do another post if I can find anything.It also does appear also that the actors are all saying goodbye on social media. MH (Clara) and JR (Mateo) both posted this picture with goodbye messages:
http://instagram.com/p/BIcIjrOhaPo
AL (Pedro) posted this video of everyone on set applauding the director. The caption also indicates this is the end of the show, because I think this director has been with them since the beginning.If you watch the video, you can also see a shot of LG (Jonas) in his new Velvet work uniform, confirming what LG said in an interview: that Jonas will become a tailor:
http://instagram.com/p/BIcp-HJAPAK
More pictures:
http://instagram.com/p/BIbsb0RjZLU
http://instagram.com/p/BIcXt0zA_EG
http://instagram.com/p/BIcl_dRDb7v
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Post by northboundtrain on Jul 29, 2016 11:15:38 GMT -5

Okay, got some information on the new actors.First up...Iria del Rio will be playing Jonas' "crazy" little sister Antonia, per this article. Antonia admires Jonas' courage in leaving the village, so she arrives in Madrid in search of a new life, which will cause headaches for Jonas.This is really cool because LG actually did mention Jonas having something else going on that wasn't a love interest for him, and I remember VV and I puzzled over what it could be. I didn't imagine that he'd get a little sister. Very curious to see how that shakes out and whether she'll be a major character or just someone who appears in one or two episodes.Chisco Amado: can't find any information on who he might be playing, but here's the picture. It's POSSIBLE he's the man we saw filming out in the streets of Madrid with AL (Humberto), MV (Cristina), MG (Patricia), and DM (Enrique) months ago -- there's a man in a suit who is standing there watching Humberto greet Cristina with a kiss on the hand. The picture was posted in one of the earlier pages of the thread. Maybe Humberto's manager?Toni Agustí: can't find information, but here's his pic: Nando Gonzalez will be playing the role of "Doctor Isasa" per his agent's website.Gabriel Garbisu: according to his agent's website, he will be playing the role of "Alfonso" in an episode directed by Manolo G. Pereira).Naia Guz: She has only one credit on IMDB, as someone named "Eva" in a 2015 movie named Francisco El Padre Jorge. Did a little bit more digging and found that the character of Eva was also known as "Niña." Found the trailer which has a clip of this little girl...looks just like the girl we saw strolling through the store in one of the pics awhile back, right?So this must be either the daughter of Cristina, or Lourdes, the daughter of Barbara/Enrique (I'm assuming Pedro/Rita's child is a boy per that weird picture AL posted with LG playing their "son").
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Post by victoriavelvet on Jul 29, 2016 11:31:58 GMT -5

Toni Agusti, was he the lovesick guy in that film with Jennifer Lopez, the wedding planner? He looks familiar?

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