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i have seen a lot of old series ratio 4:3 in my 16:9 monitor, but those two big black bars are starting to irritate me, now i need to pick up series in 16:9
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CP9 said:i have seen a lot of old series ratio 4:3 in my 16:9 monitor, but those two big black bars are starting to irritate me, now i need to pick up series in 16:9 when hd(720p) became the standard resolution
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Jun 28, 2013 7:31 PM#3PaulOfflineJan 200818508
2020 for ultra HD. Can't wait for dat 8k resolution.
Jun 28, 2013 7:32 PM#4MajinSagaOfflineJan 20131527
Get a new tv of monitor.
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Jun 28, 2013 7:35 PM#5--ALEX--OfflineJun 200825970
Paul said:2020 for ultra HD. Can't wait for dat 8k resolution. Welp, I won't be able to see any of that. My crappy PC can only take up to 1080p. Oh well.
Jun 28, 2013 7:35 PM#6Negative-TravisOfflineMar 20124421
Marifrit said:CP9 said:i have seen a lot of old series ratio 4:3 in my 16:9 monitor, but those two big black bars are starting to irritate me, now i need to pick up series in 16:9 when hd(720p) became the standard resolution I wouldn't say that. Well I suppose that holds true for TV series, but movies have been in 16:9 for ages. For instance, I have a Project A-Ko laserdisc that's formatted in 16:9, but it's designed to run on a 4:3 TV so they gave it this funny letterbox job that has the movie displayed on the top 2/3 of the screen and the subtitles fill the bottom 1/3 of black space. Overall, I'd say you're completely safe with post-'05 anime.
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Jun 28, 2013 7:37 PM#7gamer2710OfflineAug 20123305
JustALEX said:My crappy PC can only take up to 1080p.1080pcrappy PCYeah... It's weird, actually. I can't stand 4:3 anymore either because all my screens are 16:9.
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Jun 28, 2013 7:41 PM#8Negative-TravisOfflineMar 20124421
Am I the only one who doesn't give a shit?
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Jun 28, 2013 7:46 PM#9ssrexOfflineApr 2013356
What are we supposed to be discussing? Oh well. Black bars > Nothing
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Jun 28, 2013 7:47 PM#10gamer2710OfflineAug 20123305
Paul said:2020 for ultra HD. Can't wait for dat 8k resolution.That Website said:To give you a general idea of the requirements, an 8k stream (33.1 million pixels) would require 48-50 Gbps of bandwidth.Damn, will streaming 4k HD via the Internet be a viable option? Not to mention the insane file size for a single episode with decent quality. 720p is still a grand luxury to me. 4k is just ridiculous, lol.
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Jun 28, 2013 7:59 PM#11CP9OfflineOct 20126
MajinSaga said:Get a new tv of monitor. my desk doesnt have room for another monitor
Jun 29, 2013 2:33 AM#12ziga1221OfflineFeb 2013413
CP9 said:MajinSaga said:Get a new tv of monitor. my desk doesnt have room for another monitor It doesn't need to be a bigger monitor, you just download anime in 16:9 resolution? It could be a problem since most of the old animes are in 4:3.
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Jun 29, 2013 2:39 AM#13OchimushaOfflineJun 201212277
Negative-Travis said:Am I the only one who doesn't give a shit? I don't even notice any of this shit.
Jun 29, 2013 3:07 AM#14ZalisOfflineJun 20074153
CP9 said:i have seen a lot of old series ratio 4:3 in my 16:9 monitor, but those two big black bars are starting to irritate me, now i need to pick up series in 16:9 I've never shied away from watching 16:9 anime on the old 4:3 screens I still use (like right now), nor have I done so more recently with 4:3 content on my newer 16:9 screens. While I don't entirely understand the aversion to black bars, I can answer the question with some confidence. Negative-Travis said: Overall, I'd say you're completely safe with post-'05 anime.Not quite. I did run through and count them awhile back, and while I can't find the exact numbers, I can say this much: First 16:9 TV anime: Betterman (Spring 1999), Vandread (Fall 2000) After that, 16:9 anime gradually increased year to year. In the Fall 2006 season, the 16:9 numbers jumped considerably, to the point where 4:3 became a small minority. The last otaku-market 4:3 TV anime aired in 2007, those being Manabi Straight, Saint October (both Winter '07), and Lovely Complex (Spring '07). After that, the only 4:3 anime have been all-ages/kodomo shows like Chi's Sweet Home and the last 4:3 TV anime I've been able to find, Bakugan Battle Brawlers: New Vestroia (Spring '09). Most long-running anime such as Naruto, Bleach, and One Piece switched to 16:9 around April of 2008. Some hentai continued to be made in 4:3 through the late 00s, though I don't know exactly when that practice stopped. So the shortest answer would be "Fall 2007." when hd(720p) became the standard resolution Again, not quite. There were a number of TV series in 2007 and 2008 (after the 16:9 transition was done) whose broadcasts were low-res (=720x480 anamorphic/letterboxed), or as the fansubbers released them, 400p. Even some of the 720p broadcasts for 2006-2009 anime were eventually regarded as upscales of low-res animation, as evidenced by the way people threw out their HDTV-rips of shows like Honey & Clover 2, Shigofumi, and Myself; Yourself in favor of DVD-rips. MajinSaga said:Get a new tv or monitor. No, get an old monitor: a 4:3 screen as a secondary display -- works for 4:3 content and hiding the flaws in low-res anime that become more visible on large screens. It shouldn't be too hard to find one via Craigslist > Free or charity electronics shops. Paul said:2020 for ultra HD. Can't wait for dat 8k resolution. Oh yeah, I can't wait to see how awesomely TV stations can upscale anime that'll still be made (as it is today) at 540p or 720p to 4K or 8K or whatever.
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Mar 7, 2017 5:03 AM#15ShadowkillZAbsolute ZenithOfflineMar 20164092
4:3? 16:9? .................... HOW ABOUT A 21:9 ASUS ROG Swift Curved PG348Q Gaming Monitor - 34" 21:9 Ultra-wide QHD (3440x1440), overclockable 100Hz , G-SYNC™ If only I could bu- If only my PC is good enough for this glorious monitor...
Sep 12, 2020 2:39 AM#16Tokomo-sanOfflineFeb 202012
This forum is dead isn't it right. this whole conversation I'm wrong?
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Paul said:2020 for ultra HD. Can't wait for dat 8k resolution.wait a second... this post wasnt made in 2020 if only you knew how bad things truly are :(
Sep 12, 2020 4:15 AM#18ChartTopper60穂乃果は神OfflineOct 20152111
Not sure if this is a direct answer, but the earliest HD television anime I know of(?) is One Piece, which began HD on Episode 207, which aired in October 2004. There is probably earlier, but I don't know.
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Sep 12, 2020 4:23 AM#1923feanorOfflineJun 20194796
I only notice when watching 90's anime such as Sorcerer Hunters (1995) when you have the black banners on each side of the screen. And as OP mentioned, it can get annoying after a while. The first season of Gintama was 4:3 i think as that had the black banner sections on either side of the screen as well. I've heard that at the beginning of the 2nd season (ep 201) Gintoki's hands appear to come out of the tv and widen the screen to 16:9 proportions. Am planning on starting Gintama S2 soon, can't wait!
Sep 12, 2020 4:31 AM#20removed-userOfflineJul 2018559035
This is like the 3rd dead post that has been revived in the recent few days.
Sep 12, 2020 4:31 AM#21DamuzenOfflineSep 20173481
Gintama changed their format with the second season in 2011 (the characters were pretty happy about it)
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Sep 12, 2020 4:44 AM#22yarukaOfflineFeb 2019996
I'm still using a 2009 16:10 monitor on my pc and my laptop is 3:2, no matter what I watch I have black bars lol.
Sep 12, 2020 4:54 AM#23_aLiez_LINOfflineNov 20182379
Well bigger is better just like girls choice.
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Sep 12, 2020 5:13 AM#24deglagomOfflineJan 2009108565
2007-2008 like Gurren Lagann and this one https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naruto:_Shippuden_(season_3)
Sep 12, 2020 5:22 AM#25RudeRedisOfflineJan 20201032
You can switch the Aspect Ratio mode in VLC easily, from 4:3 to 16:9, 16:10 and vice versa, but once you do so you should be prerpared to watch it like:
May 16, 2022 8:47 AM#26dafrikunOfflineMay 20211
I suggest watching it with a Smartphone that has an amoled screen because the blackbars are even like nothing
May 16, 2022 8:54 AM#2701Wind10OfflineJun 2020293
I got really confused when people were talking about 16:9 like it's a new thing
May 16, 2022 8:58 AM#28KDan_69OfflineJul 201922
yaruka said:I'm still using a 2009 16:10 monitor on my pc and my laptop is 3:2, no matter what I watch I have black bars lol. Same here, 16:10 is perfect for me. It's still working fine, I just had to replace faulty caps some time ago, not a big deal ^_^
Feb 9, 2024 6:36 AM#29SawtaytoesOfflineAug 202012Reply to ZalisCP9 said:i have seen a lot of old series ratio 4:3 in my 16:9 monitor, but those two big black bars are starting to irritate me, now i need to pick up series in 16:9 I've never shied away from watching 16:9 anime on the old 4:3 screens I still use (like right now), nor have I done so more recently with 4:3 content on my newer 16:9 screens. While I don't entirely understand the aversion to black bars, I can answer the question with some confidence. Negative-Travis said: Overall, I'd say you're completely safe with post-'05 anime.Not quite. I did run through and count them awhile back, and while I can't find the exact numbers, I can say this much: First 16:9 TV anime: Betterman (Spring 1999), Vandread (Fall 2000) After that, 16:9 anime gradually increased year to year. In the Fall 2006 season, the 16:9 numbers jumped considerably, to the point where 4:3 became a small minority. The last otaku-market 4:3 TV anime aired in 2007, those being Manabi Straight, Saint October (both Winter '07), and Lovely Complex (Spring '07). After that, the only 4:3 anime have been all-ages/kodomo shows like Chi's Sweet Home and the last 4:3 TV anime I've been able to find, Bakugan Battle Brawlers: New Vestroia (Spring '09). Most long-running anime such as Naruto, Bleach, and One Piece switched to 16:9 around April of 2008. Some hentai continued to be made in 4:3 through the late 00s, though I don't know exactly when that practice stopped. So the shortest answer would be "Fall 2007." when hd(720p) became the standard resolution Again, not quite. There were a number of TV series in 2007 and 2008 (after the 16:9 transition was done) whose broadcasts were low-res (=720x480 anamorphic/letterboxed), or as the fansubbers released them, 400p. Even some of the 720p broadcasts for 2006-2009 anime were eventually regarded as upscales of low-res animation, as evidenced by the way people threw out their HDTV-rips of shows like Honey & Clover 2, Shigofumi, and Myself; Yourself in favor of DVD-rips. MajinSaga said:Get a new tv or monitor. No, get an old monitor: a 4:3 screen as a secondary display -- works for 4:3 content and hiding the flaws in low-res anime that become more visible on large screens. It shouldn't be too hard to find one via Craigslist > Free or charity electronics shops. Paul said:2020 for ultra HD. Can't wait for dat 8k resolution. Oh yeah, I can't wait to see how awesomely TV stations can upscale anime that'll still be made (as it is today) at 540p or 720p to 4K or 8K or whatever.
@Zalis I think your post on Betterman being widescreen in 1999 is wrong. Just because the DVD and Blu-ray release of Betterman are in 1.85:1 doesn't mean it originally aired that way. I've skimmed through a bunch of episodes, and it's pretty clear to me it's been cropped. I feel completely claustrophobic just watching it. Sadly, it's hard to find any concrete info though, so I'm wanting to know your source. I've been trying to get a copy of this show, but all the places I look say it was originally 1.85:1, and I'm fairly sure they wouldn't do that in 1999 considering the smaller size of Japanese 4:3 TVs. Even if they did, it would've still aired in 4:3 (pan-and-scan or statically cropped), but there's not enough info in each scene to crop it from the 1.85:1 release.
Feb 9, 2024 6:46 AM#30SawtaytoesOfflineAug 202012
After more looking around, I finally found something conclusive on this old Best Buy listing for the DVD: https://www.bestbuy.com/site/betterman-vol-2-metamorphosis-dvd/4700489.p?skuId=4700489 This disc contains five episodes of the anime series Betterman. The episodes are titled "Echo", "Forye", "Poison", "Aqua", and "Worms". Each is presented in the original aspect ratio of 1.33:1. English and Japanese soundtracks are rendered in Dolby Digital Stereo. English subtitles are accessible. Supplemental materials include a text-free rendition of the closing credit animation sequence and an art gallery. This is a great release for any fan of the series. I don't know anything about Vandread, but I'd question it in the same way.
Feb 9, 2024 7:15 AM#31BigBoyAdvanceCall me OniichanOfflineJan 20071899
They gradually shifted from 4:3 to 16:9 in early to mid 2000s. If the black bars bother you, then buy a 4:3 CRT and look up youtube guides on how to connect it to your PC.
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