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- Start date Start date Dec 20, 2020
sfaffasf3
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after i saw mpmd i thought about buying some but he is out of stock any other good place to buy from?jrock645
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You want just pure turk? Good luck with that. This stuff has been hyped for 20 years but everybody has issues sourcing it, which is why it hasnt made too many appearances in major supps. And, its really expensive. Highly doubtful it delivers on the hype anyway as most of the research was in test tubes and rats. Last edited: Dec 21, 2020sns8778
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As someone who knows the pricing for real material on this, I would be very skeptical of any brand that offers it with any claim of there being enough active in it to matter unless the price is insane. Serious Nutrition Solutions - Competitive Edge Labs - Muscle Addiction Helping You Reach & Exceed Your Goals. Top Quality Products - Great PricesAfi140
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sns8778 said: As someone who knows the pricing for real material on this, I would be very skeptical of any brand that offers it with any claim of there being enough active in it to matter unless the price is insane. Click to expand...This is what I’ve always read and heard as well. *strong supplement shop rep* Find the latest supplements at the best prices at strongsupplementshop.com
alvin1
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Tonvara is the only that seem legit to mebarische
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pesfaffasf3 said: after i saw mpmd i thought about buying some but he is out of stock any other good place to buy from? Click to expand...perhaps you may want to find actual russian (not chinese) - maral root extract (rhaponticum) - wonder what the ecdy % is. I see some on etsy
BigGame84
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I almost bought some from Gorilla Mind when it was in stock but I read some people were taking 4+ caps a day and at that price, I passed.jameschoi
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I still have bulk supps turk, not sure if it worked lol.DocR_
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I have some MPMD Turk I’m parting with on ebayalvin1
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new member trying to sell on ebay not fishy at all lolDocR_
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alvin1 said: new member trying to sell on ebay not fishy at all lol Click to expand...lol I get that. I literally had the listing up earlier and was just lurking reading the thread with peoples experiences with it, when I read this. I forgot my old log in from 10+ years, but I dont think I ever posted. just lurked.
De__eB
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Uzbekistan is not the easiest place in the world to reliably source ingredients from. And there isn't enough demand or cultivation knowledge behind it to setup a farm op somewhere else and see returns within a decade. And there isn't enough clinical research momentum/drive behind the ingredient to fund further research. Turkesterone is probably dead in the water unless someone with a lot of money decides to take it on as a passion project. SNS Representative - [email protected]jrock645
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Considering the effort ThermoLife went to with E-Bol years ago, the many delays and how short lived that product was when it came out... and then they quit making and pivot their business to testing stuff and then filing lawsuits for fake/underdosed/unlicensed stuff... Yeah, turk and ecdy’s ship has sailed in terms of ever being a legitimate supp.De__eB said: Uzbekistan is not the easiest place in the world to reliably source ingredients from. And there isn't enough demand or cultivation knowledge behind it to setup a farm op somewhere else and see returns within a decade. And there isn't enough clinical research momentum/drive behind the ingredient to fund further research. Turkesterone is probably dead in the water unless someone with a lot of money decides to take it on as a passion project. Click to expand...
BCseacow83
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Abolic-4, made by Dante Trudel who I trust.jameschoi
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BCseacow83 said: Abolic-4, made by Dante Trudel who I trust. Click to expand...Did you run a log for abolic-4?
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In on this..sns8778
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BCseacow83 said: Abolic-4, made by Dante Trudel who I trust. Click to expand...If you notice on the label of that though, it doesn't claim to provide any active constituents. It says: Arjuna Turkestanica Powder Extract (Stems and Leaves). (And credit to them for labeling it correctly and not lying about active content like some brands are). There's no doubt that companies can buy the powder. The issue is that the raw materials aren't available for the active constituents at anywhere near a price that would make it economically feasible for it to be effective. Serious Nutrition Solutions - Competitive Edge Labs - Muscle Addiction Helping You Reach & Exceed Your Goals. Top Quality Products - Great Prices
BCseacow83
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jameschoi said: Did you run a log for abolic-4? Click to expand...No.
BCseacow83
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sns8778 said: If you notice on the label of that though, it doesn't claim to provide any active constituents. It says: Arjuna Turkestanica Powder Extract (Stems and Leaves). (And credit to them for labeling it correctly and not lying about active content like some brands are). There's no doubt that companies can buy the powder. The issue is that the raw materials aren't available for the active constituents at anywhere near a price that would make it economically feasible for it to be effective. Click to expand...The apigenin and quercifit alone are worth it and the product does seem effective. I know he has discussed replacing the turk since people are very opinionated on the ingredient one way or another.
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BCseacow83 said: The apigenin and quercifit alone are worth it and the product does seem effective. I know he has discussed replacing the turk since people are very opinionated on the ingredient one way or another. Click to expand...I have no opinion on his product one way or the other. My only purpose in replying is to help people on the ingredient. From a marketing standpoint, by using Turkesterone, companies will attract and get sales from people that just hear about it and don't know the details on the raw materials; but then they will also get a backlash from people that do. At least in the case of the one you're talking about, they don't make specific extract claims so they aren't outright lying on the labels like some companies are. Some companies are making content claims based on supplier COA's. In these cases, they companies are either completely uninformed (doubtful), just lying to themselves, or just wanting to capitalize on the popularity. People can be opinionated on whether Turkesterone works or not. But there are facts when it comes to the raw material supply chain and that is that a Chinese vendor can put whatever they want on a COA but there is no way that a company can offer a higher percentage extract of an ingredient not native to there than companies/suppliers that specialize in it in its native region. ^^^ Interesting note - I've looked into this ingredient for years including speaking with Uzbekistan suppliers. We deal with Chinese vendors on some things and when I inquired again recently on Turkesterone, EVERY single one that I trust told me that they wouldn't sell it because it wouldn't test out properly under the right testing methods and cautioned us against buying it. Now keep in mind, I'm talking about active content. I'm not saying you can't buy the powder/raw material from China because you absolutely can. I'm just saying that you aren't going to get a high yield extract with the constituents that line up with any of the studies. (Which is why I complemented the product you mentioned - at least they are saying its powder and not claiming it to be std. to any certain percentages). Serious Nutrition Solutions - Competitive Edge Labs - Muscle Addiction Helping You Reach & Exceed Your Goals. Top Quality Products - Great Prices
jrock645
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I remember the ThermoLife guy saying some similar things. Been a long time, cant recall specifics. But yeah, ground up plant is one thing, standardized extract completely different.sns8778 said: I have no opinion on his product one way or the other. My only purpose in replying is to help people on the ingredient. From a marketing standpoint, by using Turkesterone, companies will attract and get sales from people that just hear about it and don't know the details on the raw materials; but then they will also get a backlash from people that do. At least in the case of the one you're talking about, they don't make specific extract claims so they aren't outright lying on the labels like some companies are. Some companies are making content claims based on supplier COA's. In these cases, they companies are either completely uninformed (doubtful), just lying to themselves, or just wanting to capitalize on the popularity. People can be opinionated on whether Turkesterone works or not. But there are facts when it comes to the raw material supply chain and that is that a Chinese vendor can put whatever they want on a COA but there is no way that a company can offer a higher percentage extract of an ingredient not native to there than companies/suppliers that specialize in it in its native region. ^^^ Interesting note - I've looked into this ingredient for years including speaking with Uzbekistan suppliers. We deal with Chinese vendors on some things and when I inquired again recently on Turkesterone, EVERY single one that I trust told me that they wouldn't sell it because it wouldn't test out properly under the right testing methods and cautioned us against buying it. Now keep in mind, I'm talking about active content. I'm not saying you can't buy the powder/raw material from China because you absolutely can. I'm just saying that you aren't going to get a high yield extract with the constituents that line up with any of the studies. (Which is why I complemented the product you mentioned - at least they are saying its powder and not claiming it to be std. to any certain percentages). Click to expand...
alvin1
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what about tonvara, seem legitsns8778
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alvin1 said: what about tonvara, seem legit Click to expand...35.00 per bottle (depending where) for 60 caps Per their label - 100mg Uzbekistan Ajuga Turkestanica Extract per capsule ^^^ Note that it does not say 100 mg. active constituent; it says extract per capsule I saw in one place where it says that 10% is Turkesterone (so 10 mg. per capsule) However, I saw in another place that it is 30% total total sum ecdysteroids, out of which 10% is Turkesterone. So basically, if you wanted to take the studied dose, it would cost a fortune. Here's an old thread on this subject that goes pretty in depth. I hadn't read it in a long time and don't have time to over the holidays, but a lot is covered here: Invalid Link Removed Last edited: Dec 24, 2020 Serious Nutrition Solutions - Competitive Edge Labs - Muscle Addiction Helping You Reach & Exceed Your Goals. Top Quality Products - Great Prices
Irishobrien
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sfaffasf3 said: after i saw mpmd i thought about buying some but he is out of stock any other good place to buy from? Click to expand...its present in Maral root extract. Not sure the %
semtex
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I have used Abolic-4, I had 4 bottles didn't notice anything from it at more then the recommended doseBigGame84
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semtex said: I have used Abolic-4, I had 4 bottles didn't notice anything from it at more then the recommended dose Click to expand...I like Dante but I’m not surprised that supplement is weak sauce.
semtex
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BigGame84 said: I like Dante but I’m not surprised that supplement is weak sauce. Click to expand...Plus a-bolic4 is really pricey, if it worked it would be worth it. I think Dante said he was taking 4 caps a day. And the recommended dose on the bottle was 2 caps a day. Now this was the old bottle of a-bolic4. The newer bottles have double the doses. But I took 4 caps cause that's what he said he took but I didn't see anything. I'm not sure if he's on trt, but I don't think he built all that size on A-bolic4.
THEstudent
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Legit Turkesterone was being offered by a company in that thread that @sns8778 had posted. According to the few studies on it , it was the most anabolic of the ecdysteroids but other studies said the anabolic effect was greater with a combination of ecdysteroids. I think Dante is even considering removing the turkesterone in his product in favor of a full spectrum rhapticom/leuza extract. I think the best ecdysterone product on the market right now is Mass Pro Synthagen X2. Even though they don't list how much ecdysterone is in the product per serving which I definitely don't like because the formula is proprietary but you really notice an effect from a recovery standpoint. Muscle mass gains come much later. I was impressed after a 3 month run of the product.barische
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THEstudent said: Legit Turkesterone was being offered by a company in that thread that @sns8778 had posted. According to the few studies on it , it was the most anabolic of the ecdysteroids but other studies said the anabolic effect was greater with a combination of ecdysteroids. I think Dante is even considering removing the turkesterone in his product in favor of a full spectrum rhapticom/leuza extract. I think the best ecdysterone product on the market right now is Mass Pro Synthagen X2. Even though they don't list how much ecdysterone is in the product per serving which I definitely don't like because the formula is proprietary but you really notice an effect from a recovery standpoint. Muscle mass gains come much later. I was impressed after a 3 month run of the product. Click to expand...how about massmax xt
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barische said: how about massmax xt Click to expand...
barische said: how about massmax xt Click to expand...@barische that same company in that thread that offered legit turk supposedly tested Massmax XT and found it did not meet label claims(take that for what it is worth). Some guys that used it really liked it but I have never tried it.
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THEstudent said: Legit Turkesterone was being offered by a company in that thread that @sns8778 had posted. According to the few studies on it , it was the most anabolic of the ecdysteroids but other studies said the anabolic effect was greater with a combination of ecdysteroids. I think Dante is even considering removing the turkesterone in his product in favor of a full spectrum rhapticom/leuza extract. I think the best ecdysterone product on the market right now is Mass Pro Synthagen X2. Even though they don't list how much ecdysterone is in the product per serving which I definitely don't like because the formula is proprietary but you really notice an effect from a recovery standpoint. Muscle mass gains come much later. I was impressed after a 3 month run of the product. Click to expand...
THEstudent said: @barische that same company in that thread that offered legit turk supposedly tested Massmax XT and found it did not meet label claims(take that for what it is worth). Some guys that used it really liked it but I have never tried it. Click to expand...Keep in mind too that that thread is old. It just covered a lot of the issues that were mentioned in this thread so I thought it would be helpful. The supply chain worldwide has been dramatically affected by Covid. So I would expect things to be even harder now. One more note - for some of this stuff, there can be multiple testing methods. I've seen in cases of that with some ingredients where this is sometimes used to trick consumers but most of the time its used to trick companies. I'll say this - if I thought there was a legitimate source of these raw materials that were available to where we could offer them at a reasonable price, I'd be the first person to jump on board and do so. And if we ever find them, we will. But right now, I think I have better odds finding my daughter a real unicorn for next Christmas than finding legit raw materials at a price that would allow them to be sold for a reasonable price
De__eB
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sns8778 said: One more note - for some of this stuff, there can be multiple testing methods. I've seen in cases of that with some ingredients where this is sometimes used to trick consumers but most of the time its used to trick companies. Click to expand...This is an under-rated problem in the industry that a lot of people don't understand. Especially for difficult/expensive to test ingredients, or plant extracts with a variety of active constituents. -- At the same time, lots of companies have fallen back on this as an excuse even when it's not true. "It's wasn't our fault, it's the evil people at our suppliers who shall not be named" SNS Representative - [email protected]
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sns8778 said: If you notice on the label of that though, it doesn't claim to provide any active constituents. It says: Arjuna Turkestanica Powder Extract (Stems and Leaves). (And credit to them for labeling it correctly and not lying about active content like some brands are). There's no doubt that companies can buy the powder. The issue is that the raw materials aren't available for the active constituents at anywhere near a price that would make it economically feasible for it to be effective. Click to expand...What about the bulkpowder that Sportpowders sell? They at quite reasonable prices €145.95kg they claim Ajuga Turkestanica extract 2%
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We have it at IronMagLabs.com and its lab tested. WES15 at checkout gets you 15% off. We have it blended with Piperine to enhance the absorption. "WES15" for 15% off at bStraight up Kratom / MA Research[/B]"WES20" for 20% off at MA Suppssns8778
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muscleman said: What about the bulkpowder that Sportpowders sell? They at quite reasonable prices €145.95kg they claim Ajuga Turkestanica extract 2% Click to expand...I'm not familiar with the company and can't speak for anyone quality wise that I haven't seen independent test results for. But price wise, since its just a 2% that would be possible most likely. Serious Nutrition Solutions - Competitive Edge Labs - Muscle Addiction Helping You Reach & Exceed Your Goals. Top Quality Products - Great Prices
muscleman
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Thank you unfortunately I missed to buy it on their Black Friday when they have everything at 35% off. Their phenibut however is top quality and from reviews and European forums generally they are well regarded when it comes to their products. But I don´t know about turksterone at all. I will probably take a chance on this next time they have a sale.sns8778
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muscleman said: I am not affiliated or anyhting and don´t know if it is okay to put up a link or not? Anyhow I do and if it is against any rules remove it or I will remove it. Invalid Link Removed Click to expand...It is against the rules so you may want to delete it. Serious Nutrition Solutions - Competitive Edge Labs - Muscle Addiction Helping You Reach & Exceed Your Goals. Top Quality Products - Great Prices
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sns8778 said: It is against the rules so you may want to delete it. Click to expand...Ok thanks deleted, didn´t know about that but makes sense otherwise so many people on here being affiliated would be posting links I guess
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