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Captmorgan72

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#1 Sep 6, 2012 Why would Geralt want to kill Letho? Letho proves himself to be a friend to Geralt multiple times in this game. He defeats Geralt in combat and then refuses to kill him. He saves and protects Triss and did the same for Yennefer. He explains everything to Geralt at the end. Everything he is doing he does to restore the Witchers. I can't understand why the player would chose to kill him. L

Lurtz_Of_Orthanc

Rookie

#2 Sep 6, 2012 He murdered Cedric, he and his cohorts murdered dozens of Scoia'tael, he murdered Foltest - a strong, good King - all for a flimsy promise from Nilfgaard that they will rebuild the School of the Viper and not turn on him at a moment's notice. There's nothing to stop his restored School from being a puppet like Dol Blathanna. So there are many reasons for Geralt to kill Letho - including his promise to Roche in Iorveth's Act 2, should you take that path.

wichat

Mentor

#3 Sep 6, 2012

captmorgan72 said: Letho proves himself to be a friend to Geralt multiple times in this game. He defeats Geralt in combat and then refuses to kill him. He saves and protects Triss and did the same for Yennefer. He explains everything to Geralt at the end. Everything he is doing he does to restore the Witchers. I can't understand why the player would chose to kill him. Click to expand...

Do you call a friend who, by their actions, allows you endorse a crime you did not commit and for which they want to execute you in all realms??? Great, friendship's Golden Medal for Letho!!! K

KnightofPhoenix

Rookie

#4 Sep 6, 2012 While I would never kill him and neither would my canon Geralt, there are reasons to want to kill him. He was directly responsible for the massacre in Loc Muinne, murdered a monk, Cedric, dozens of Scoia'Tael, killed Foltest, consorts with Nilfgaard...etc You can even interpret him saving Triss as a means to manipulate you to letting him go. So there are reasons. Not good enough for me, but there are there. F

FoggyFishburne

Banned

#5 Sep 6, 2012 I'd never kill Letho. Letho is a lonely man in search of home. I never saw him as an enemy. On the contrary, that final conversation with him really established him as a friend and even a brother. If Letho deserves death then you might as well say that Geralt does too. And Iorveth. And Roche. And Triss etc etc. That's part of the reason why I fell in love with the games. They're not telling you "this guy is bad, kill him". They're instead showing us the story and letting us decide what seems more right and less right. Letho wasn't actively trying to ruin Geralts life. He was, however, actively trying to help Geralt, on numerous different occations. Letho killed a couple of Scoia'tael. So? Jeez, how many did Roche and Geralt kill together? I'm pretty sure their numbers rank up to a battalion. Yet no one bats an eye. Huh. Hypocritical or ignorant? Can't ever decide. I wish Letho the best. Hopefully he'll find some peace now. I hope that TW3 will provide some more backstory on him or update us with what he's doing now. I'm genuinely curious. And honestly, if Letho would've asked me to join him in his quest to slay the kings of the north, I'd follow him in a heartbeat.

wichat

Mentor

#6 Sep 6, 2012 I kill him one runplay, and let him go in the next one, no matter the path I'm playing, because I find the same quantity of reasons to wish his death or not. But I never thought that Letho can be considered a friend of Geralt. As Letho tells to Iorveth once, he knows Geralt's weaks and he don't hesitate to use them against The White Wolf. B

Blothulfur

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#7 Sep 6, 2012 Generally my canon Geralt tends not to judge, he's not so righteous as to believe that he is the final arbiter of life and death. There are certain things he feels that he must do, otherwise he tries to remain neutral, he's not so childish or arrogant as to think he knows what is right or wrong. A

ajuc

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#8 Sep 6, 2012 Letho's badass, but he's also an asshole. He's manipulating bad and good people with complete disregard for their lives just to achieve his goal. He's very dangerous (cause he's very intelligent and doesn't look that way), and you can't trust him. And he kidnapped Triss, killed Foltest, made life for people in a few countries a hell (war comes to the North thanks to Letho, at least partly). M

M4xw0lf.978

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#9 Sep 6, 2012 To show him who's the badassest witcher - the world is not big enough for two of them

Aver

Forum veteran

#10 Sep 6, 2012 For saying "let me go, or I will kill you". During first playthrough I had hard time deciding if I should let him go or kill him, but then he finished conversation with this line. I was like "Oh, yeah? We will see!". C

CostinRaz

Banned

#11 Sep 6, 2012

Wichat said: I kill him one runplay, and let him go in the next one, no matter the path I'm playing, because I find the same quantity of reasons to wish his death or not. But I never thought that Letho can be considered a friend of Geralt. As Letho tells to Iorveth once, he knows Geralt's weaks and he don't hesitate to use them against The White Wolf. Click to expand...

You know risking his life for Yennefer is not worth anything right? That's one of the reasons why there are people who consider Letho's Gerlat's old friend. And LOL at the mentality of killing him for his threat that others show here. "I MUST prove I am more badass then he is." Sorry to break it to you, but Letho has already beaten the crap out of you by killing Foltest, Demavend and sowing so much chaos.

Guest 3593423

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#12 Sep 6, 2012

ajuc said: Letho's badass, but he's also an asshole. He's manipulating bad and good people with complete disregard for their lives just to achieve his goal. He's very dangerous (cause he's very intelligent and doesn't look that way), and you can't trust him. And he kidnapped Triss, killed Foltest, made life for people in a few countries a hell (war comes to the North thanks to Letho, at least partly). Click to expand...

Yep. Geralt says himself: Killing kings isn't the way to fix the problem. Also, all the personal attacks on Geralt and Triss definitely made me choose to kill him, though it was a tough choice in the end. B

Blothulfur

Mentor

#13 Sep 6, 2012 We all know that Nilfgaard would invade again, the Black Sun cannot stand the thought of these backward and savage barbarians humbling them. Given this fact is it possible that thanks to Lethos wet work the inevitable third war may have been quickened? In the long run saving both lives and liberties for the conquered north. Certainly we can argue that the loss of Demavend and Foltest though tragic are nothing compared to the thousands of lives that would be lost, civilian and military, if Nilfgaards armies had to campaign against a united and well led north. Course there's no certainty that Lethos side will win, but could his assassinations and manipulations be considered moral when compared to the high toll of butchery and barbarity that a standard invasion would guarantee. Then again my Geralt doesn't really care tuppence ha'penny who wins or loses, he had an obligation to clear his name and aid Foltests children, which he dispensed at Loc Muinne. Now he's free to pursue his personal desires, stand by his friends and say to hell with the foibles of potentates and powerbrokers K

KnightofPhoenix

Rookie

#14 Sep 6, 2012 I believe that war was inevitable, with or without Letho. Letho is simply reserving a piece of the cake. So I do not think Letho can be morally blamed for starting the war, it would have happened anyhow. Though one could morally blame him for his actions (I of course don't). And I really don't believe that Geralt would be so....well petty is the nicest way I can say it, to kill a man just to prove he's better. But well, whatever floats your boat.

tommy5761

Mentor

#15 Sep 7, 2012 After playing both sides of the fence on this one i can say that neither way feels 100% right to me i mean to say that no matter which one i did i never felt complete absolution . So i guess it comes down to player preference and what feels right for them .

Garrison72

VIP

#16 Sep 7, 2012 I'm with Tommy. Though I lean toward saving him, he's a selfish bastard with little concern for those not relevant to his plans, and I never play Geralt that way. C

Captmorgan72

Senior user

#17 Sep 7, 2012

Aver said: For saying "let me go, or I will kill you". During first playthrough I had hard time deciding if I should let him go or kill him, but then he finished conversation with this line. I was like "Oh, yeah? We will see!". Click to expand...

He wasn't threating Geralt, he was warning him that if forced to fight, he will not spare him this time. Letho had already defeated Geralt once and probably believed he could do it again. I believe the reason Letho won their first duel was because Geralt had lost some of his knowledge of his training. At the end, Geralt retains that knowledge and the scales are balanced. The age old rule of Witchers never getting involved in politics is gone. Geralt is living in a different world with old traditions that do not apply anymore. Letho knows this and adapts to the changing times. There really is nobody in this game that can take the high road. Everybody has spilled barrels of blood and killed "innocent” lives, Geralt included. Story wise, it makes sense to kill Letho when taking Roche's path and spare Letho when taking Iorveth's path.

wichat

Mentor

#18 Sep 7, 2012 Well, my Geralt try to feel like the one who wish kill Cahir in despite of what his friends think... The respect he has for Regis, Jaskier and Mirva, just stop him a bit. Only after the battle bridge... But with Letho, Geralt can choise in dialogue box, if kill him since the start or wait till the end to decide letting him go. Obviously, the reading of the all seven books conditions you much more than you think, at the moment you do decide for Geralt in his actions. Kill Yennefer would have been no problem for him if it was really worthy for his plans. Not kill her is just what any witcher would do at least, is not a prove of friendship. Use this action to manipulate Geralt's felings neither it is. C

CostinRaz

Banned

#19 Sep 7, 2012 You're forgetting Letho had no real pragmatic reason to spare Geralt in the Elven Baths. In regards to my own views on the choice: I have personally never killed anyone in any RPG and then claimed it was on moral grounds because I believe that trying to justify killing on moral ground is hypocrisy. I don't believe in the need for justice nor of that of an eye for an eye at least on moral grounds. The way I see it is that not killing a person, regardless of what they have done, is the moral decision. Oh I have killed plenty of people in RPGs, don't get me wrong on that, but it has always been on pragmatic or ruthless grounds and as for Letho...well the way I see it the Empire might be worth siding with in the future and I am going there to get Yennefer anyway so having Letho there might help.

wichat

Mentor

#20 Sep 7, 2012 If I was Letho and I'd commited a crime and the justice were looking for another guilty who is not me, I smartly left this suspect alive and keeping the distraction for authorities. It is an action which can be easly take it by self-interest. See Roche-Iorveth Act 1 Spoiler When you already make your choice for a path, Roche and Iorveth fight against without killing each other, tht doens't mean they are friends

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