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Advevo

Original Poster

97 posts

185 months

[report] [news]Monday 1st August 2011 Here is a lap on the Nurburgring in a 1M following an M3 CSL which was a track day car. CSL had cups coil over suspension roll cage etc. The 1M was original off factory. Driven in M modus and DSC off. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPXDz72MdaE

NickXX

1,632 posts

239 months

[report] [news]Monday 1st August 2011 Good video, but the CSL does seem to be on the brakes an awful lot. There are some sections where the CSL really does seem to show the 1M a clean pair of heels before getting overly friendly with the brakes.Switch drivers, and you'd get a very different story I'd imagine.

nottyash

4,671 posts

216 months

[report] [news]Monday 1st August 2011 Pretty close. CSL only started pulling away on the long straights, and then not that much. Capable cars them 1Ms

outnumbered

4,742 posts

255 months

[report] [news]Monday 1st August 2011 I love the fact that from inside the 1M, the CSL is way louder than the 1M itself.The 1M obviously has some decent torque, as he hardly changes gear, seems to be just using 3rd and 4th where the CSL is needing 2nd.Edited by outnumbered on Monday 1st August 22:23

Cheburator mk2

3,175 posts

220 months

[report] [news]Monday 1st August 2011 Great lap for a standard car. Still understeers like a pig...CSL driver spent an awful lot of time on the brakes, some very wrong lines in a couple of places tooBiggest difference between the two cars - the CSL will go and do another 5 laps on the trot. The 1M will not...No doubt though, a 1M with tyres and decent suspension/geo will be a weapon

Olivera

8,342 posts

260 months

[report] [news]Monday 1st August 2011 Great lap, shows just how hard you have to go to get near 8 min btg. I'm sure I've seen the driver in a few other ring vids - he's a very handy wheelman.

Olivera

8,342 posts

260 months

[report] [news]Monday 1st August 2011 Oops I think the OP is the wheelman

cheddar

4,637 posts

195 months

[report] [news]Monday 1st August 2011 Once into third at Tiergarten that 1M didn't change gear for over a minute.Edited by cheddar on Monday 1st August 23:42

clabcon

325 posts

226 months

[report] [news]Tuesday 2nd August 2011 More like 10 minutes, that video is sped up by about 20%. Can't believe no one else noticed it!

cheddar

4,637 posts

195 months

[report] [news]Tuesday 2nd August 2011 clabcon said: More like 10 minutes, that video is sped up by about 20%. Can't believe no one else noticed it!

TimJMS

2,584 posts

272 months

[report] [news]Tuesday 2nd August 2011 Doesn't look like a CSL to me. Colour is wrong (could be wrapped though) and so is the boot lid. The rear lip is insufficiently pronounced. Looks more like a stuck on spoiler

Bolognese

1,500 posts

245 months

[report] [news]Tuesday 2nd August 2011 Nice lap OP Yes, it doesnt look like a csl unless its been modded quite a bit. That red porsche at the begginging flew past.Cant wait to go there this weekend

VerySideways

10,260 posts

293 months

[report] [news]Tuesday 2nd August 2011 Pretty decent lap i thought - the guy in the E46 is braking long and light, not short and hard, but the 1M is still right with him regardless...

Mr Trophy

6,811 posts

224 months

[report] [news]Tuesday 2nd August 2011 Thanks for sharing!

Pugsey

5,820 posts

235 months

[report] [news]Tuesday 2nd August 2011 VerySideways said: Pretty decent lap i thought - the guy in the E46 is braking long and light, not short and hard, but the 1M is still right with him regardless...Often sounds like there's some power on when braking (I don't mean downshifts) so maybe balancing car with left foot braking and not actually just plain braking? Either way I'm impressed by 1M and it's pilot.

roofer

5,136 posts

232 months

[report] [news]Tuesday 2nd August 2011 Cheburator mk2 said: Biggest difference between the two cars - the CSL will go and do another 5 laps on the trot. The 1M will not...Why's that then?

Cheburator mk2

3,175 posts

220 months

[report] [news]Tuesday 2nd August 2011 roofer said: Why's that then? Because you can see that the 1m understeered like a pig in a few places and by lap 3 if he is on road tyres with the original geo the fronts would have definitely gone off. I also wonder whether BMW have resolved the cooling problems which were experienced by the Z4 guys and also if the 1M was on standard brakes, which were not as good as the CSL ones...

TX1

2,831 posts

204 months

[report] [news]Tuesday 2nd August 2011 Where was the engine noise on the 1M ? Think car deserves a bit of a decent sound.

vescaegg

28,173 posts

188 months

[report] [news]Tuesday 2nd August 2011 God the turbos make a difference to gear changes don't they!? I bet the guy in the csl was giving the SMG a bloody big workout!

gaz1234

5,233 posts

240 months

[report] [news]Tuesday 2nd August 2011 there was another thread saying the 1m is better than the csl (performance wise). just cant see it.looks more like an m3 - stripped. Reply OP Posts Only Prev of 4234 Next OP Posts Only Reply OP Posts Only

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