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Notices C6 Corvette General Discussion General C6 Corvette Discussion not covered in Tech Community Links Pictures & Albums Members List Search Forums Show Threads Show Posts Tag Search Click for Advanced Search Find All Liked Posts Go to Page... 2013 C6 427 - Long term value / Collect-ability? Reply Subscribe Thread Tools Search this Thread Old Jan 31, 2018 | 05:34 PM Share Share Options #1 Big Lebowski's Avatar Big Lebowski Thread Starter Le Mans Master Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 7,358 Likes: 4,785 From: West Burbs of Chicago IL Default 2013 C6 427 - Long term value / Collect-ability? I LOVED the C6 427 60th Anniversary edition the minute I saw it at the Chicago Auto Show 6 years ago, and more surprisingly so did my wife. After seeing it, she green lit a purchase until we learned they were going to sell new north of $90k....which at the time, was not justifiable. Flash forward, and I now own a C7 Z06 Vert, so power in a convertible package is not the issue (nor was the sticker shock). I just love the look of the anniversary edition 427 w/ the stripe, which would be in addition to not a replacement of my C7 Z06. What are the long-term impressions AND perceived long-term collect-ability of the 427? I know this is hard to answer 5-6 years after they rolled out of Bowling Green, given they are rare but not that rare (aprox 1,100 made). Harder still, is where is the bottom on the value of these before they level off? I see a lot selling with low to mid mileage, and hover in the low 50's retail, which still seems high to me for a car produced almost 6 years and 1 Corvette generation ago. Thanks. Reply 1 1 427C62013A Big Lebowski View Public Profile Send a private message to Big Lebowski Find More Posts by Big Lebowski Old Jan 31, 2018 | 06:01 PM Share Share Options #2 R&L's C6's Avatar R&L's C6 Race Director Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 18,014 Likes: 1,466 Default My personal opinion (which doesn't mean much ) is that car will be the most collectible C6. Reply 1 1 Billy182 R&L's C6 View Public Profile Send a private message to R&L's C6 Find More Posts by R&L's C6 Old Jan 31, 2018 | 06:49 PM Share Share Options #3 919cw313's Avatar 919cw313 Le Mans Master Joined: Jan 2016 Posts: 8,055 Likes: 2,694 From: New Mexico 2018 C6 of Year Finalist Default Quote: Originally Posted by Big Lebowski What are the long-term impressions AND perceived long-term collect-ability of the 427? Harder still, is where is the bottom on the value of these before they level off? I'd agree that they will be the most collectible, along with ZR1. I'm not saying they'll ever be money makers though. My guess would be 10 years from their introduction. They still have a ways to go. I think the C5 Z06 would be a good measuring stick for it to an extent. Reply 0 0 919cw313 View Public Profile Find More Posts by 919cw313 Old Jan 31, 2018 | 07:43 PM Share Share Options #4 rkj427's Avatar rkj427 Race Director Joined: Apr 2014 Posts: 15,002 Likes: 4,644 From: Washington Township Michigan 2025 C8 Stingray of the Year Finalist - Unmodified 2024 Corvette of the Year Finalist - Unmodified 2023 C6 of the Year Winner - Unmodified 2020 C6 of the Year Finalist - Unmodified 2019 C6 of Year Finalist (appearance mods) Default Quote: Originally Posted by Big Lebowski I LOVED the C6 427 60th Anniversary edition the minute I saw it at the Chicago Auto Show 6 years ago, and more surprisingly so did my wife. After seeing it, she green lit a purchase until we learned they were going to sell new north of $90k....which at the time, was not justifiable. What are the long-term impressions AND perceived long-term collect-ability of the 427? I know this is hard to answer 5-6 years after they rolled out of Bowling Green, given they are rare but not that rare (aprox 1,100 made). Harder still, is where is the bottom on the value of these before they level off? I see a lot selling with low to mid mileage, and hover in the low 50's retail, which still seems high to me for a car produced almost 6 years and 1 Corvette generation ago. Thanks. Attached is the 2013MY production volumes............. 2552 427 Collector Edition Convertibles, with about 1200 equipped with the 60th Anniversary color package........... as mentioned they were about 90K MSRP or more, but started out high 70's with no options.............. typically 45 - 50 % depreciation over a 5 year timeframe would be realistic, using wholesale pricing figures, so those in the low to mid 50's still are a fair deal to buyers and sellers.............. one thing to remember is cars are NOT appreciating assets........... and there were a lot more C7's produced in 2014 than any model year of the C6 generation............... a base 2014 C7 will not retain as much value as a "limited run" model of the C6 generation, and market pricing has shown that to be true today.................. good luck with any choice or decision you make.......... Last edited by rkj427; Dec 2, 2018 at 12:18 AM. Reply 1 1 Big Lebowski rkj427 View Public Profile Send a private message to rkj427 Find More Posts by rkj427 Old Jan 31, 2018 | 08:30 PM Share Share Options #5 FAUEE's Avatar FAUEE Race Director Joined: Oct 2012 Posts: 16,612 Likes: 5,990 From: Melbourne, FL Default How much time have you got? The 427, the Carbon Z06, the CE will be the most collectible C6s. That may take 50 years for them to be worth anything. The 427 is the last great Corvette, the last big engine, the last attractive styling, the last Corvette before the electronics took over. It's a great car to buy, and you should get one. I personally would not get the 60th, it's not my style. I think the bottom of the market for the 427 is your super clean, super low mile cars, super well equipped around 45k. Those are the ones with a chance at being worth something anyways. My recommendation? Buy a higher mileage one and drive the pants off it. No guilt for the miles and all the fun. Reply 3 3 449er owc6 Big Lebowski FAUEE View Public Profile Send a private message to FAUEE Find More Posts by FAUEE Old Jan 31, 2018 | 08:33 PM Share Share Options #6 S.C. vette's Avatar S.C. vette Melting Slicks Joined: Jul 2014 Posts: 2,782 Likes: 314 From: The Lowcountry South Carolina Default Simply too many variations & variables in the next decade to determine with any degree of accuracy, this year/option package will become a collectible. Like similar C6 assembly line low production Vettes: condition & mileage = elevated retail value. Reply 1 1 Big Lebowski S.C. vette View Public Profile Send a private message to S.C. vette Find More Posts by S.C. vette Old Jan 31, 2018 | 08:43 PM Share Share Options #7 joeking's Avatar joeking Safety Car Joined: Nov 2000 Posts: 4,767 Likes: 332 From: SIOUX FALLS SD Cruise-In II Veteran Cruise-In III Veteran Default IMO they are not worth buying for a collector. You have to store the car, replace tires, change fluids and do all the extra work just keeping the car for a future sale. You can still buy about any Corvette out there for the right price. Even a 63 split window Corvette which is probably one of the sought after Corvettes out there can be had for around $100,000 anytime, any day. Better off putting the money in a 2% CD and gaining interest instead of collecting a Corvette because I am sure there will be one for sale 50 years from now. These cars are made to enjoy and drive. I see C-5 Z-06's in mint condition with low miles and they can be had for $25,000 or less and are in great condition. I do agree it is probably the most sought after C-6 made however the people that owned them probably got out of Corvettes for good or bought a C-7 Z-06 or another expensive car like a Tesla or another foreign sport/super car. There is always a new, bigger dog out there that somebody thinks will be the next big collector car and the C-6 unfortunately is not top dog any longer but I still love racking miles on my 05 C-6 and had it since new. Reply 1 1 Big Lebowski joeking View Public Profile Send a private message to joeking Find More Posts by joeking Old Jan 31, 2018 | 08:50 PM Share Share Options #8 C6KWJ's Avatar C6KWJ Racer Joined: Dec 2017 Posts: 429 Likes: 66 From: Plymouth MA Default It will be worth money in 30 years for sure but it has to be a garage queen low miles less than 50,000 miles or lower mint condition. Reply 1 1 Big Lebowski C6KWJ View Public Profile Send a private message to C6KWJ Find More Posts by C6KWJ Old Jan 31, 2018 | 08:59 PM Share Share Options #9 phileaglesfan's Avatar phileaglesfan Race Director Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 19,574 Likes: 167 From: Frederick, MD Default Are you asking 10-20 years from now or 30-40? Very few "mass-build" cars these days will end up being big money collectibles. You may see the values be around what you paid for it new 20 years or so from now but inflation will also cause that same money to be worth a lot less. It doesn't make sense to buy a car for $100k or so, let it sit in the garage for 6 years, then you still lose about 1/2 the value if you decide to sell it. At least if you drive it you get to enjoy it. But everyone has their preferences. I probably won't be around in 40 years so I'm not worried. Reply 1 1 Big Lebowski phileaglesfan View Public Profile Send a private message to phileaglesfan Find More Posts by phileaglesfan Old Feb 1, 2018 | 10:33 AM Share Share Options #10 Tonylmiller's Avatar Tonylmiller Race Director Joined: Apr 2006 Posts: 12,561 Likes: 542 From: Huntsville AL Default I like to buy used, when they get down to about half of MSRP. So that is what I did. Wow, what an awesome car! I don't think anyone will be sorry for buying an LS7 car. The engine is just so awesome. My 2006 convertible was fantastic, but this car is fantastic squared. I can't stop smiling every time I drive it. Reply 1 1 Big Lebowski Tonylmiller View Public Profile Send a private message to Tonylmiller Find More Posts by Tonylmiller Old Feb 1, 2018 | 11:21 AM Share Share Options #11 Unreal's Avatar Unreal Team Owner Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 24,035 Likes: 2,335 From: Gilbert AZ Default If you find a low low mileage one, perfect shape, put it in a bubble for 50 years, it may outpace inflation. Reply 0 0 Unreal View Public Profile Send a private message to Unreal Find More Posts by Unreal Old Feb 1, 2018 | 11:31 AM Share Share Options #12 dryadsdad's Avatar dryadsdad Le Mans Master Joined: Nov 2014 Posts: 5,880 Likes: 110 From: Texas Default Quote: Originally Posted by Big Lebowski I LOVED the C6 427 60th Anniversary edition the minute I saw it at the Chicago Auto Show 6 years ago, and more surprisingly so did my wife. After seeing it, she green lit a purchase until we learned they were going to sell new north of $90k....which at the time, was not justifiable. Flash forward, and I now own a C7 Z06 Vert, so power in a convertible package is not the issue (nor was the sticker shock). I just love the look of the anniversary edition 427 w/ the stripe, which would be in addition to not a replacement of my C7 Z06. What are the long-term impressions AND perceived long-term collect-ability of the 427? I know this is hard to answer 5-6 years after they rolled out of Bowling Green, given they are rare but not that rare (aprox 1,100 made). Harder still, is where is the bottom on the value of these before they level off? I see a lot selling with low to mid mileage, and hover in the low 50's retail, which still seems high to me for a car produced almost 6 years and 1 Corvette generation ago. Thanks. They are nothing. The only collectible C6 is the ZR1. I'm amazed that old folks who remember the big block Vettes of 45+ years ago are being sucked into these fakes. These are small blocks punched to the point of weeping. They are nothing more than typical GM sticking decals on a car and calling it a limited edition. In this case, it's not decals but the boring 'drill' to make a bigger hole. IF it really were a large block, then you'd have something. As it is, they are just a wheezing last gasp of a standard C6. Reply 0 0 dryadsdad View Public Profile Send a private message to dryadsdad Find More Posts by dryadsdad Old Feb 1, 2018 | 12:02 PM Share Share Options #13 FAUEE's Avatar FAUEE Race Director Joined: Oct 2012 Posts: 16,612 Likes: 5,990 From: Melbourne, FL Default Quote: Originally Posted by dryadsdad They are nothing. The only collectible C6 is the ZR1. I'm amazed that old folks who remember the big block Vettes of 45+ years ago are being sucked into these fakes. These are small blocks punched to the point of weeping. They are nothing more than typical GM sticking decals on a car and calling it a limited edition. In this case, it's not decals but the boring 'drill' to make a bigger hole. IF it really were a large block, then you'd have something. As it is, they are just a wheezing last gasp of a standard C6. The LS7 is a little bit more different than that, but I get what you're saying. What you're missing is its the last big NA engine we will likely see in a Corvette. It's the only LS7 powered drop top. It oozes collector status because from this point forward, hi-po models will be nothing more than a bigger supercharger bolted on. Reply 1 1 427C62013A FAUEE View Public Profile Send a private message to FAUEE Find More Posts by FAUEE Old Feb 1, 2018 | 12:10 PM Share Share Options #14 gliot1's Avatar gliot1 Safety Car Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 4,607 Likes: 2,359 From: Buckeye, AZ St. Jude Donor '12-'13 Default I think as some have said above, in time it may be a desirable car, they real question is when? History tells us that the car has to at least be 20 yrs old before that transition will happen. As a previous owner of a '78 Pace Car, I just sold, my reply is to drive it an enjoy it now. Simply saving it with the hope one day it will be worth big bucks is a roll of the dice. In my case I bought mine for $16.5k, kept it (17) years and sold it for $25k. I did drive it about 2k a season! It is a tough game to try and predict which rides will be hot 16 years from now, and you have to weigh out do you really want to sit on it that long, or drive it today and have fun........ Reply 0 0 gliot1 View Public Profile Send a private message to gliot1 Find More Posts by gliot1 Old Feb 1, 2018 | 12:35 PM Share Share Options #15 JayhawkCPA's Avatar JayhawkCPA Racer Joined: Sep 2017 Posts: 459 Likes: 137 From: Dallas TX Default Quote: Originally Posted by phileaglesfan Are you asking 10-20 years from now or 30-40? Very few "mass-build" cars these days will end up being big money collectibles. You may see the values be around what you paid for it new 20 years or so from now but inflation will also cause that same money to be worth a lot less. It doesn't make sense to buy a car for $100k or so, let it sit in the garage for 6 years, then you still lose about 1/2 the value if you decide to sell it. At least if you drive it you get to enjoy it. But everyone has their preferences. I probably won't be around in 40 years so I'm not worried. I agree with your statement from an economic point of view. But I think the same was said about 60's muscle cars at a point in time. Then again, most equities if purchased in the late 60's and 70's would have much greater growth than a muscle car from the same period. I think nostalgia drives the collectible american car market. 60's cars have been hot for awhile because the baby boomers have the money to buy the car they wanted in high school or before they could drive. I was born in 86, I could see 90's and 00's muscle cars being collectible in the 2040's (whoa, 2040? yikes) ... this could also effect the price of 60's cars ... if they were built before you were born, will people care as much? but i digress...purchasing now for future collect-ability would be a bit of a fool's errand, unless you have a ton of cash and want it to be a small piece of your investments. Purchasing something already collectible, and flipping, is another story. Last edited by JayhawkCPA; Feb 1, 2018 at 12:36 PM. Reply 0 0 JayhawkCPA View Public Profile Send a private message to JayhawkCPA Find More Posts by JayhawkCPA Old Feb 1, 2018 | 12:43 PM Share Share Options #16 Tonylmiller's Avatar Tonylmiller Race Director Joined: Apr 2006 Posts: 12,561 Likes: 542 From: Huntsville AL Default Quote: Originally Posted by dryadsdad They are nothing. The only collectible C6 is the ZR1. I'm amazed that old folks who remember the big block Vettes of 45+ years ago are being sucked into these fakes. These are small blocks punched to the point of weeping. They are nothing more than typical GM sticking decals on a car and calling it a limited edition. In this case, it's not decals but the boring 'drill' to make a bigger hole. IF it really were a large block, then you'd have something. As it is, they are just a wheezing last gasp of a standard C6. Interesting viewpoint. Have you driven an LS7 car and taken it to the redline? I will be amazed if you have. Isn't it the displacement that matters, as far as power? This is a small block with big block displacement. Who cares if the block weighs an extra hundred pounds!? I would rather have the lighter block. And the LS7 basically has race car heads. Will it ever be extremely valuable? I really don't care. It is just that much fun to drive. I'm enjoying the car. Not saving it for the next owner, and not viewing it as an investment. More like an expensive hobby! If I get my money back someday, or most of it, that is even better. Reply 2 2 Ericm1949 427C62013A Tonylmiller View Public Profile Send a private message to Tonylmiller Find More Posts by Tonylmiller Old Feb 1, 2018 | 12:47 PM Share Share Options #17 Big Lebowski's Avatar Big Lebowski Thread Starter Le Mans Master Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 7,358 Likes: 4,785 From: West Burbs of Chicago IL Default Quote: Originally Posted by dryadsdad They are nothing. The only collectible C6 is the ZR1. IF it really were a large block, then you'd have something. As it is, they are just a wheezing last gasp of a standard C6. Sooooo, I'm going to go out on a limb here, and guess you are not a fan. Got it. Reply 0 0

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Big Lebowski View Public Profile Send a private message to Big Lebowski Find More Posts by Big Lebowski Old Feb 1, 2018 | 12:49 PM Share Share Options #18 Big Lebowski's Avatar Big Lebowski Thread Starter Le Mans Master Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 7,358 Likes: 4,785 From: West Burbs of Chicago IL Default Quote: Originally Posted by gliot1 I think as some have said above, in time it may be a desirable car, they real question is when? History tells us that the car has to at least be 20 yrs old before that transition will happen. As a previous owner of a '78 Pace Car, I just sold, my reply is to drive it an enjoy it now. Simply saving it with the hope one day it will be worth big bucks is a roll of the dice. In my case I bought mine for $16.5k, kept it (17) years and sold it for $25k. I did drive it about 2k a season! It is a tough game to try and predict which rides will be hot 16 years from now, and you have to weigh out do you really want to sit on it that long, or drive it today and have fun........ All posts with great insight, and this is where I'm at. Weighing this (or an even older model) to hold on to and garage...which is not my style. Chances are whatever I get will not be daily driven 15k miles annually car, but it also wont' be a garage queen. I love them...but its not an Enzo Ferrari. Reply 0 0 Big Lebowski View Public Profile Send a private message to Big Lebowski Find More Posts by Big Lebowski Old Feb 1, 2018 | 12:54 PM Share Share Options #19 dryadsdad's Avatar dryadsdad Le Mans Master Joined: Nov 2014 Posts: 5,880 Likes: 110 From: Texas Default Quote: Originally Posted by FAUEE The LS7 is a little bit more different than that, but I get what you're saying. What you're missing is its the last big NA engine we will likely see in a Corvette. It's the only LS7 powered drop top. It oozes collector status because from this point forward, hi-po models will be nothing more than a bigger supercharger bolted on. Trivial details. The point I'm making is that GM made the 427 not due to 427 being a performance goal but to mine the nostalgia of oldsters who once dreamed of having a real big block Chevelle or Corvette in the way back. 427, 426, Hemi...all in the dreams of senior citizens today. The younger ones who are the collector target aren't having their chimes rung by these ancient numbers and designations. Check the price curve of '57 Chevys. The oldsters, now dead, of 20 or so years ago bid them through the roof. Who wants them now? Last edited by dryadsdad; Feb 1, 2018 at 12:56 PM. 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