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Wolverine W Just finished reading the Autowek review on the C63 AMG Coupe. 3,816 lb, 451 hp, 0-62 4.3 sec. With the optional 'performance package', you can boost the HP to 480, which would cut the 0-62 time to below the F10 M5's. Looking at the weight/hp ratio, the 480 hp C63 has a slight advantage - 3,816/480 = 7.95 lb/hp. For the M5, 4,465/560 = 7.97 lb/hp. Given it's got a 600 lb advantage, I'd guess it could be quicker around the track as well. I'm eagerly awaiting the first road tests. #1 · Jun 16, 2011 Just finished reading the Autowek review on the C63 AMG Coupe. 3,816 lb, 451 hp, 0-62 4.3 sec. With the optional 'performance package', you can boost the HP to 480, which would cut the 0-62 time to below the F10 M5's. Looking at the weight/hp ratio, the 480 hp C63 has a slight advantage - 3,816/480 = 7.95 lb/hp. For the M5, 4,465/560 = 7.97 lb/hp. Given it's got a 600 lb advantage, I'd guess it could be quicker around the track as well. I'm eagerly awaiting the first road tests. Sort by Oldest first Oldest first Newest first Most reactions #2 · Jun 16, 2011 even if it is.. Who cares. They are totally different cars. Not to hate on AMG's but they are quick with poor handling in comparison to an M5 but in the end most people on here will just discuss how "quick" their cars are so a horsepower number, or a estimated 1/4 mile time is important to them. Me, i drive them #3 · Jun 16, 2011

NickyBlack said: even if it is.. Who cares. They are totally different cars. Not to hate on AMG's but they are quick with poor handling in comparison to an M5 but in the end most people on here will just discuss how "quick" their cars are so a horsepower number, or a estimated 1/4 mile time is important to them. Me, i drive them Click to expand...

+1 BTW the BMW # are just that. I bet the indy #s are lower. 0 Reply #4 · Jun 16, 2011 I can't speak for the "performance package" but the c63 coupe is slower than the e60 m5 0-60. Can't imagine it beating the f10. #10 · Jun 17, 2011 Mercedes-Benz C-class Review: C63 AMG with Development Pack Test The link is to a Car & Driver test of the C63 Sedan with the Performance Package (0-60: 3.9s). From what I understand, the C63 coupe will be about 150lbs lighter than the sedan. However, if that weight reduction is coming from the rear, the 0-60 times might not improve, as the car may be a little more difficult to launch because of traction issues. As far as if a C63 coupe will be faster than an F10 M5... it is all speculation. Although I would imagine the F10 M5 being able to put up sub 4 second 0-60 times given the right road surface. Tom 0 Reply #5 · Jun 16, 2011 Really? The F10 M5 weighs nearly 4500 lbs????!! I keep hearing around the upper 4200 and 4400. What's the real weight? I still have some hope that the F10's 0-60 time is REALLY conservative and the power figures are also underrated significantly. I'll still bet that the F10 M5 will be faster than the C63 AMG Coupe PP Package. #6 · Jun 17, 2011 I wouldn't be surprised if when people test the F10 independently it's a shade faster than what BMW quotes it at, and that's all we're talking about in the case. I think people expecting under 4 seconds are going to be disappointed though. The current M5 is a better performer at higher speeds due to gearing and the nature of the motor, and I wouldn't be surprised if the F10 continued somewhat in these footsteps. The lower weight should give the C63 the advantage in acceleration from a standing stop, but on the highway, I would hope the F10 pulls away as it has 70 more hp. On the other hand it seems that AMG has significantly raised it's game in the handling department, so I wouldn't sleep on them in that regard. #11 · Jun 17, 2011

///Pete said: I wouldn't be surprised if when people test the F10 independently it's a shade faster than what BMW quotes it at, and that's all we're talking about in the case. I think people expecting under 4 seconds are going to be disappointed though. The current M5 is a better performer at higher speeds due to gearing and the nature of the motor, and I wouldn't be surprised if the F10 continued somewhat in these footsteps. The lower weight should give the C63 the advantage in acceleration from a standing stop, but on the highway, I would hope the F10 pulls away as it has 70 more hp. On the other hand it seems that AMG has significantly raised it's game in the handling department, so I wouldn't sleep on them in that regard. Click to expand...

BMW is notoriously conservative with their estimates. Every generation M5 that I've ever seen is always .4-.5 sec faster than the BMW estimate. Same with the other times, 0-100 etc. Not all companies do this, but the Germans are known for it. Caddy gives the "real" time etc...So I fully expect the F10 to be 3.8-4.0 seconds. Also, keep in mind that the e60 strokers are putting down 3.8s 0-60 times with much less torque. I expect the F10 will be of similar performance to the stroker. BMW is simply doing more with less. 560hp doesnt sound like much. The weight sounds heavy...BUT, I guarantee it will be MUCH faster than a stock e60 in a straight line and on the race track. It'll be better in every way and much easier/cheaper to tune. Still love the V10 though! As for the C63 coupe, why are we even comparing the 2? One is a big 4 door sedan and the other is a 3 door coupe. The M3 is what it should be compared to. 0 Reply #7 · Jun 17, 2011 (Edited) With the tall gearing (relative to the Porsche Panarama), there's no way the F10 M5 will break 4 sec in 0 - 60. However, on today's roads, 0 - 60 is no longer relevant as much as 50 - 80 acceleration on the highway, which the F10 excels in 3.6 sec in 3rd gear. #8 · Jun 17, 2011 sorry ///pete i have to say the E60 m5 and the F10 is going to be very different in the power delivery. BMW is claiming peak torque in the F10 to start at a low !500 rpm zero turbo lag system as compare to the E60 m5 4500 rpm peak. I am hopping its going to be a street light beast of a car. #9 · Jun 17, 2011 I agree with you about the power delivery, and I think you will definitely notice that driving the F10 around the streets. I was talking about racing the C63 where both have similar power to weight ratios, I wouldn't be surprised if the lower weight of the C gives it an edge in acceleration (I think that is borne out in the original post?) but the extra power of the F10 will give it the advantage from a rolling start. Insert Quotes Post Reply

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