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User avatar legacy2k William WobblerWilliam Wobbler Posts: 90 Joined: Tue Mar 01, 2011 10:08 pm Location: England

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Post by legacy2k » Mon Mar 28, 2011 5:55 pm

hey guys is there anyway to get a standard C64 working on a VGA monitor, i have to use a massive tv which wont fit right in my current situation if i cant figure this one out, are there any adaptors or anything i can use?? anything considered at this point thanks Top User avatar e5frog Honorary MemberHonorary Member Posts: 10806 Joined: Thu Apr 30, 2009 9:40 pm Location: Sweden Age: 51 Contact: Contact e5frog Website
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Post by e5frog » Mon Mar 28, 2011 6:11 pm

There are little converter boxes that can be used, can give good and bad results depending on VGA-screen and box. You can use a tv-card in a PC to solve it or you can get a Chameleon. IMHO C64 looks best on a CRT but I'd go for the converter box alternative. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 0619073385 There are various versions in a wide price range. Here's one for $8.99: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 0653008227 Could very well be the same circuitry as the more expensive one, who knows how good they are. Get one, tell us how it went. You're guaranteed to get some unwanted graphic effects, like the freeze or jerks every few seconds for example and then other artifacts. But if you really want to use a VGA screen with an original C64 you don't have much choice. ;-) Top User avatar Oge_user Rick DangerousRick Dangerous Posts: 2645 Joined: Sun Jul 14, 2002 7:28 pm Location: Italy

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Post by Oge_user » Mon Mar 28, 2011 6:21 pm

legacy2k wrote:is there anyway to get a standard C64 working on a VGA monitor, i have to use a massive tv which wont fit right in my current situation if i cant figure this one out, are there any adaptors or anything i can use??
Which inputs your VGA monitor has? Image Top Wiesel MikieMikie Posts: 421 Joined: Fri Feb 01, 2008 1:39 pm Location: out in the wild Age: 52 Contact: Contact Wiesel Website
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Post by Wiesel » Mon Mar 28, 2011 6:23 pm

The Chameleon cartridge has a VGA output. Jens Top User avatar hurminator JumpmanJumpman Posts: 3522 Joined: Tue Feb 03, 2004 12:50 am Location: Columbus, Ohio Age: 54
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Post by hurminator » Mon Mar 28, 2011 6:38 pm

e5frog wrote:There are little converter boxes that can be used, can give good and bad results depending on VGA-screen and box. You can use a tv-card in a PC to solve it or you can get a Chameleon. IMHO C64 looks best on a CRT but I'd go for the converter box alternative. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 0619073385 There are various versions in a wide price range. Here's one for $8.99: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 0653008227 Could very well be the same circuitry as the more expensive one, who knows how good they are. Get one, tell us how it went....
I have one that looks almost identical to those and it works fine (just have to jiggle it a little because sometimes the color fades). I have had it for a couple of months and it was worth the $23 I paid for it (including shipping). Top User avatar vimfuego Rick DangerousRick Dangerous Posts: 2859 Joined: Wed Jul 01, 2009 7:38 am Location: Melbourne, Australia Age: 53 Contact: Contact vimfuego Website
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Post by vimfuego » Mon Mar 28, 2011 11:38 pm

I too have a similar one (internals are probably the same). It looks like crap on a LCD VGA monitor (to be expected), but on an CRT VGA screen it's actually pretty darn good. I use it for my C64 and Amiga. Commodore 8bit Designs - C8D << All projects available for download now. I've finally stopped buying Commodore gear (well, maybe a few hundred more). Top User avatar rubikWizard Lemon64 Donator!Lemon64 Donator! Posts: 1221 Joined: Sun Sep 14, 2003 5:40 pm Location: West Yorkshire, UK Age: 54 Contact: Contact rubikWizard Website
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Post by rubikWizard » Tue Mar 29, 2011 9:47 pm

Wiesel wrote:The Chameleon cartridge has a VGA output. Jens
I have now received my Chameleon cartridge and have to say that the VGA output is absolutely superb on all the monitors I have tried it on (19" LCD, 22" LCD Widescreen and 42" Plasma) not to mention all the other features of the Chameleon :D Stuff I've Made Top User avatar e5frog Honorary MemberHonorary Member Posts: 10806 Joined: Thu Apr 30, 2009 9:40 pm Location: Sweden Age: 51 Contact: Contact e5frog Website
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Post by e5frog » Tue Mar 29, 2011 11:45 pm

Yes, Chameleon (as I mentioned in my first reply) is probably a good option, but if you're just looking to hook up a VGA-screen to your C64 and not currently interested in other future and current features US$280.50 (€199.90, plus shipping) is perhaps a bit too much. ;-) http://www.vesalia.de/e_chameleon.htm I have been interested in one of those cheap video to VGA boxes, almost a shame I don't need one. Perhaps I should get one while they're available... Top Socratessa Posts: 16 Joined: Sat Mar 12, 2011 1:39 pm Location: The Netherlands Age: 67
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Post by Socratessa » Wed Mar 30, 2011 7:32 pm

Just google on video to vga converter. There is a online shop in the netherlands who sells them for 60 euro. You have to understand dutch or use google translate. http://www.popelectronics.nl/video-naar ... r-841.html What If Socrates was born as a female ? Her name should be like ... Top User avatar legacy2k William WobblerWilliam Wobbler Posts: 90 Joined: Tue Mar 01, 2011 10:08 pm Location: England
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Post by legacy2k » Thu Mar 31, 2011 12:40 pm

I just had a thought... can you in anyway use a component cable on the commodore 64's normal output? i know i wont get sound but its not required for what im doing... would it work?! Top User avatar e5frog Honorary MemberHonorary Member Posts: 10806 Joined: Thu Apr 30, 2009 9:40 pm Location: Sweden Age: 51 Contact: Contact e5frog Website
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Post by e5frog » Thu Mar 31, 2011 12:52 pm

Signal out from the VIC-II chip is luminance and chrominance so that's the best signal you can get from a plain C64. Which is basically S-video when the signal levels are adjusted. Top User avatar legacy2k William WobblerWilliam Wobbler Posts: 90 Joined: Tue Mar 01, 2011 10:08 pm Location: England
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Post by legacy2k » Thu Mar 31, 2011 1:14 pm

e5frog wrote:Signal out from the VIC-II chip is luminance and chrominance so that's the best signal you can get from a plain C64. Which is basically S-video when the signal levels are adjusted.
yea i mean can i use a compnent cable on it as i have a usb capture device for S video and component so i could use that on my pc which uses the monitor thus getting rid of the need for vga or anything Top Wiesel MikieMikie Posts: 421 Joined: Fri Feb 01, 2008 1:39 pm Location: out in the wild Age: 52 Contact: Contact Wiesel Website
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Post by Wiesel » Thu Mar 31, 2011 1:15 pm

The request sounded like three-component, meaning YUV, not S-Video. The answer would be "no", as the C64 generates the video signal as two components only, as e5frog already wrote. Jens Top User avatar legacy2k William WobblerWilliam Wobbler Posts: 90 Joined: Tue Mar 01, 2011 10:08 pm Location: England
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Post by legacy2k » Thu Mar 31, 2011 2:12 pm

yea i gave it a go, no joy this is annoying my C64 is headless and i cant get a TV anywhere Top Socratessa Posts: 16 Joined: Sat Mar 12, 2011 1:39 pm Location: The Netherlands Age: 67
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Post by Socratessa » Thu Mar 31, 2011 8:00 pm

Sorry to say but i am sure that there is a possibility that it works. http://radagast.bglug.ca/C64_svideo/C64_Svideo.html But you have to do some research and sometimes take some risk to get it working. I guess that it what makes someone a c64 die hard :bigsmile: What If Socrates was born as a female ? Her name should be like ... Top Post Reply
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