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Colour differences X-e1 compared to X-e2?
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Colour differences X-e1 compared to X-e2?
broad sail [deleted] says:Hi, I’m thinking of joining the fuji x family. Caught my eyes on the e-x1/ e-x2 series. I would love to go for the e-x2 for it’s better manual focusing ability’s. However, if I look at the results the x-e2 produces colourwise, I strongly prefer the x-e1. I like the results MUCH better. The xe-1 and xe-2 seem to produce total different pictures. The X-e1 one has the film look almost but the x-e2 is missing this feel for my eyes. Pictures of the last one simply looks to digital for me Any thoughts on this? Or do I see things out of perspective? Would love to here some comments on this issue. I mainly shoot old primes, and would love to go for this little marvel of fuji. 2:29AM, 13 August 2015 PST (permalink) |
spec.Legacy says:The main difference I've noticed is with ISOs above 1600, where the X-E2 noise reduction seems to be too aggressive, though that only affects JPGs. I think that if you tweak the shadow, highlight, and saturation settings in the camera, you should be able to get what you want with either camera. I mostly use old primes as well, and feel the X-E2 does a good job capturing the character in the contrast and colors of old lenses. 113 months ago (permalink) | |
sergey.usik says:spec.Legacy: I guess if you're fine with focus peaking, using old lens makes xe1 and xe2 pretty much the same. What you will gain for your extra $$$ with xe2 are only split image, faster card writing and wifi option. Adding Wifi to xe1 is the matter of 50$ for 16 Gig Transcend WiFi SD card. And it works just fine. Try to set sharpness and noise reduction to -2 it might help to get away from "digital look". Originally posted 113 months ago. (permalink) sergey.usik edited this topic 113 months ago. | |
frankingkinnock says:I've moved from an X-M1 which has the same sensor as the X-E1 to the X-E2. Focusing is much better and WIFI/Remote can be handy - but as others have said the higher ISO performance for jpeg seems to be better on the 1's. (... and for me the EVF is great). But it's all adjustable in the camera settings so it's just a case of getting it set up for your tastes (or use RAW). But if you use auto-focus, especially with some of the older Fuji lenses such as the 60mm macro - then I'd recommend the X-E2. 113 months ago (permalink) | |
Keith Walsh Photo says:I really doubt there are any meaningful differences in image quality between these two cameras which use the same sensor. I suspect it just comes down to settings and post-processing etc. The only meaningful improvement from the 1 to the 2 is with focusing. Keep in mind though that firmware updates on the 1 greatly improved the focusing. Personally I don't really have any issue with focusing on the 1. The 2 really seems like a 1.5 to me. 112 months ago (permalink) | |
broad sail [deleted] says:Took a while, but thanks for all the answers. I´m not in a hurry. Just recently shot with a sony nex6, not bad too. But I still prefer the Fuji. (although the sony has the best film options and some other advantages). 110 months ago (permalink) | |
licokao says:At this point you may as well consider the X Pro 1 instead of the XE1. The X Pro 1 can be found dirty cheap on Ebay. I believe they both have the same sensor but the X Pro has the hybrid VF, nicer LCD screen and a better button layout. It is also slightly bigger and feels excellent in the hand. As for the focus peaking, the X pro and XE1 don't come close to the XE2's focus peaking. The ability to use red or blue is a huge improvement over the white. Personally I prefer the 1st gen. sensor but Iove the Classic chrome film simulation, wifi and overall faster operation of the XE2. If I was using older manual focus lenses I would go with the XE2. Originally posted 110 months ago. (permalink) licokao edited this topic 110 months ago. | |
andsimakov says:"The xe-1 and xe-2 seem to produce total different pictures. The X-e1 one has the film look almost but the x-e2 is missing this feel for my eyes." Sorry but this is a bullsh..t. I have E2 after E1, have photos from both. Don't see the difference. But if you like to think so — go ahead ;) 109 months ago (permalink) | |
franxblank says:yes the colours are really different, give a look here: www.fujivsfuji.com/x-e1-vs-x-e2/ 109 months ago (permalink) | |
Ovidiu`s says:Thanks god im not the only one who noticed these differences.There are BIG differences. I own both cameras(E1 and E2) and I agree with the "too digital" E2 jpegs. I also prefer the E1 jpegs because: far better DR (more details in shadows), far better colors ( the E2 shadows are too red especialy in low light ), far better auto wb and better mettering (E2 overexpose in dificult light) -> imgur.com/RpaTkmj 99 months ago (permalink) | |
andsimakov says:Well. I see the difference: I hardly ever use SOOC JPEG. RAF only. Hm, I completely forgot about this "brilliant" topic. I even going to say "Bye!" to the whole my Fuji-based system these days due to non-FF and X-Trans crap. Very "innovative" X-Trans has turned to the third gen but people still think E1's pics are much better that E2's. o_O Originally posted 99 months ago. (permalink) andsimakov edited this topic 99 months ago. | |
Keith Walsh Photo says:What is this non-FF "crap"? FF gains you a little DR (about 1 stop usually). Other than that and even larger files (which cuts both ways) there isn't much advantage. And X-Trans issues? Really depends on what RAW converter you use. Capture One works great. Most of what people are describing as differences seems to come down to default metering/processing which if you shoot RAW makes little difference. Once you are used to how a camera defaults you can work with it and process your RAW files however you like. 99 months ago (permalink) | |
Keith Walsh Photo says:Also see this article for a little discussion on different default metering approaches; www.keithwalshphoto.com/blog-1/2016/5/13/1twzmo0a4sfh1cvq... 99 months ago (permalink) | |
andsimakov says:I'm not interesting in DR, present value is pretty enough. It's about details due to sensor area and of course shallower DOF. And of course X-Trans soap matters. Larger files? Really? 24 Mpix crops are smaller than 24 Mpix FFs in megabytes? Leica's M9 uncompressed 18Mpix DNGs are almost same size in MB comparing to Fuji X-E2's 16 Mpix RAFs. Special converter? Do I need special mouse, monitor? I used to try C1 several times. Thanks but no. I'm not going to leave Fuji right now but as many time I'm in it as many times I tell Fuji is a faulty system. They had to decline X-Trans at least after the second gen but they still playing with it and make a face everything is perfect and it's a tech miracle on the market. So why coming GFX is not X-Trans? Any clues? 98 months ago (permalink) | |
Ovidiu`s says:It is a faulty system. X-Pro1/X-E1 were fantastic when they came, but now they just perverted the software for fancy colors in jpegs. AF is better, but not so good that you can use the camera for shooting events/weddings. X-Pro2 - APSC with 24mp? And why Nikon on their FF cameras D4 and Df have just 16mp? And we have lots of ppl saying "fuji jpegs are excelent" -> charlenewinfred.com/2015/05/27/more-fujifilm-x-t10-images... I dont think so. 98 months ago (permalink) | |
Hawk 1966 says:The simplest thing would be if you don't like Fuji, don't buy Fuji. I mean it's not as much fun as ranting in a random Fuji group on Flickr. But it makes more sense. Oh, and if you have Fuji gear you don't like? Sell it. Buy yourself the DSLR of choice. Have fun! 98 months ago (permalink) | |
andsimakov says:Hawk 1966: Is this closed topic or you're TC? Why should I do all that stuff you advise? I have my own opinion after 3+ years in the system and I still in it. 98 months ago (permalink) | |
Ovidiu`s says:Hawk 1966: Yeah, Hawk is doing exactly the same: "ranting in a random Fuji group on Flickr". And he should follow his advice: dont like the group? Leave it. And have fun. 98 months ago (permalink) | |
Hawk 1966 says:But I like the group and my X-E2 rig. You accusation is baseless and specious. But please continue. There's few other people chatting here so have a ball. Go off on politics. Pick your favorite car and tell everyone who doesn't drive the same how wrong they are. Go, go, go! Let's have us some fun! Oh, wait, were you trying to hurt my feelings? I'm sorry. I'll try to be more offended and cry next time, k? 98 months ago (permalink) | |
Ovidiu`s says:Hawk my friend, my point was E1 jpegs are better than E2 (with proof). You are the one who does not speak to topic. 98 months ago (permalink) | |
Keith Walsh Photo says:GFX is a completely different product vis a vis the X-series. Medium format vs APC-C. The cost of the GFX is many times that of the X series. A very different product being aimed at a different user base. Companies can manage different/multiple product categories, in fact most do. As for FF file size, a Nikon D810 is 36MP vs 16 or 24MP on Fuji. There is nothing flawed about Fuji's system any more than there is about Nikon, Canon, Sony etc. All systems have strengths and weaknesses. What people are expressing are essentially personal preferences, not some objective measure of 'badness'. Originally posted 98 months ago. (permalink) Keith Walsh Photo edited this topic 98 months ago. | |
andsimakov says:Photonguy2009: Well, dear. Let's take a closer look on first paragraph. Sure GFX is a different product at least in terms of purpose, price, tech specs. Sure it costs more. Sure a different user base. Everything is OK but if X-Trans is so cool invent why GFX doesn't feature it? Maybe something's wrong with X-Trans itself and Fujifilm worried about fiasco with it in pro segment? I don't see other reasons as well as I find your arguments are about nothing. Originally posted 98 months ago. (permalink) andsimakov edited this topic 98 months ago. | |
Keith Walsh Photo says:I suspect it's about economics. Who fabs the sensor. Large sensors are very expensive to produce and are made in very small quantities. There is actually very little info out there about the sensor. Does Fuji even fab it. Fuji claims it's a different sensor but it may be the same sensor used by other medium format cameras with some Fuji tweaks. It would be difficult to make the economics work otherwise unless Fuji intends to sell its sensor to other camera makers. Either way it explains the lack of X-Trans. There is nothing wrong with X-Trans sensors. They work as designed and have been tested endlessly and no one has found any technical faults with them. As always its advantages are allowing for increased sharpness via having no AA filter and its disadvantage is a somewhat more sparse color density. 98 months ago (permalink) | |
Hawk 1966 says:Ovidiu`s: Opinions are not proof nor are articles on obscure web sites. You seem to feel you're free to express your opinion but anyone else should just keep quiet and let you rant on. 98 months ago (permalink) | |
Ovidiu`s says:Hawk 1966: And what do you understand by "proof" ? 1 + 1 = 2 <- that`s not an opinion. Originally posted 98 months ago. (permalink) Ovidiu`s edited this topic 98 months ago. | |
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