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rocketman222  Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Gold Member  Joined: 01/06/2007 Location: Walnut Creek,CA Status: Offline Points: 1152 |  Post Options Post Reply Quote rocketman222 Report Post  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Topic: Fastarc-g1 vs Baracuda Posted: 10/26/2017 at 2:39pm |
| I have been using fastarc-g1(2.0) since last week, and I absolutely love it, its one of the most spiniest, and controllable rubber, way better than any of the recent tensors I have tried.Baracuda and G1 are from the same tensor generation(with natural rubber topsheet), would anyone who has used them both, be able to compare them? |
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DLC1325 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Silver Member   Joined: 02/15/2016 Location: USA Status: Offline Points: 734 | Post Options Post Reply Quote DLC1325 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 10/26/2017 at 3:02pm |
| I'm interested in this as well. I've been using Baracuda lately and think I might like it to be a little bit harder and I've heard G-1 is similar. |
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zeio Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Premier Member  Joined: 03/25/2010 Status: Offline Points: 10844 | Post Options Post Reply Quote zeio Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 10/26/2017 at 3:14pm |
| I haven't tried G1, but the first wave of porous Tensor(late 2009), Hexer, Baracuda, Genius, Rakza 7, Vega Pro etc., were pretty much identical.It wasn't until 2011, namely the Hexer HD, Acuda S1 Turbo, Tenzone Ultra etc. that I noticed differentiation between brands. 2012 was probably the year that all the different brands truly fleshed out their product features from each other. The 2013 refresh was, in my opinion, the year with the last noticeable change, when the Evolution series launched. 2014 onward and people finally got fed up with the cash grab. |
| Viscaria FL - 91g + Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare) + Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃) = 184.8g |
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vvk1 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Gold Member  Joined: 11/14/2009 Location: UK Status: Offline Points: 1934 | Post Options Post Reply Quote vvk1 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 10/27/2017 at 5:22am |
| Played with G1 for more than a year till late spring this year, then EJ bug took over and I dallied with EL-S and HypeKr for 2 months, and then went back to G1. Sadly, neither EL-S nor HypeKr have anything that makes them better rubbers than G1. There's a reason G1 is a top seller in Japan. |
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| How does g1 compare to mxp?Afaik, mxp is/was the shining contender to tenergy, and the most popular rubber outside tenergy, globally. |
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NextLevel Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Forum Moderator   Joined: 12/15/2011 Location: Somewhere Good Status: Offline Points: 15045 | Post Options Post Reply Quote NextLevel Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 10/27/2017 at 7:35am |
 rocketman222 wrote:I have been using fastarc-g1(2.0) since last week, and I absolutely love it, its one of the most spiniest, and controllable rubber, way better than any of the recent tensors I have tried.Baracuda and G1 are from the same tensor generation(with natural rubber topsheet), would anyone who has used them both, be able to compare them? |
I don't think this is true, but I may be wrong - I thought G1 was from a later generation (the 2011 HD generation).Baracuda is slower and is for people who want to play with extreme kick and brush on their shots. It probably doesn't fit many game styles for players who want to play over 2400 today and the game style it facilitated (heavy spin with great control) has been hurt by the plastic ball for the commercial version of Baracuda. But if you like to play with spin on EVERY stroke, then Baracuda is your rubber, but the low speed may drive you crazy. But if you want your ball to kick on every shot, I don't think there is any other rubber like it. The thing about Baracuda is that the way it behaves is not the way a regular rubber that most people like does all the time, so you almost never play flat shots with it. And when you play what should be a flat shot, you almost always have to apply *some* spin. |
| I like putting heavy topspin on the ball...Garaydia ALCFH: D80BH: D80Lumberjack TT, not for lovers of beautiful strokes. No time to train... |
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| zeio Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Premier Member Joined: 03/25/2010 Status: Offline Points: 10844 | Post Options Post Reply Quote zeio Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 10/27/2017 at 7:49am |
| Release date for Fastarc series:G1 - 2010/7/21S1 - 2011/3/21C1 - 2012/11/21P1 - 2015/6/1From my recent little research. |
| Viscaria FL - 91g + Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare) + Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃) = 184.8g |
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| NextLevel Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Forum Moderator Joined: 12/15/2011 Location: Somewhere Good Status: Offline Points: 15045 | Post Options Post Reply Quote NextLevel Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 10/27/2017 at 8:08am |
| zeio wrote:Release date for Fastarc series:G1 - 2010/7/21S1 - 2011/3/21C1 - 2012/11/21P1 - 2015/6/1From my recent little research. |
So maybe Nittaku got on that ESN generation late? I think more and more people are realizing that the Hexer etc. generation is worth trying with the plastic ball especially at the amateur level. |
| I like putting heavy topspin on the ball...Garaydia ALCFH: D80BH: D80Lumberjack TT, not for lovers of beautiful strokes. No time to train... |
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| vvk1 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Gold Member Joined: 11/14/2009 Location: UK Status: Offline Points: 1934 | Post Options Post Reply Quote vvk1 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 10/27/2017 at 9:08am |
NextLevel wrote: | zeio wrote:Release date for Fastarc series:G1 - 2010/7/21S1 - 2011/3/21C1 - 2012/11/21P1 - 2015/6/1From my recent little research. |
So maybe Nittaku got on that ESN generation late? I think more and more people are realizing that the Hexer etc. generation is worth trying with the plastic ball especially at the amateur level. |
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| slevin Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Premier Member Joined: 03/15/2012 Location: USA Status: Offline Points: 3603 | Post Options Post Reply Quote slevin Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 10/27/2017 at 9:12am |
| Baracuda works amazingly well with Falco Tempo Long - you won't find any speed deficiencies then. You shall then make an effort to ditch T05 (if you are a T05 user) on price grounds.G1 hasa bit harder sponge. Another very similar rubber from that generation is the Rakza 7.I prefer the newer generation stuff though. |
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| zeio Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Premier Member Joined: 03/25/2010 Status: Offline Points: 10844 | Post Options Post Reply Quote zeio Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 10/27/2017 at 9:38am |
Given the release date, the G1 would belong to the Hexer+, Acuda S1, Genius+ Optimum etc., which were minor tuneups for more speed.Still, the descriptions for G1 position it as a high-grip rubber with a high arc. So, I agree they were late to the party.  https://www.nittaku.com/catalog/2017en/top.htmlEdited by zeio - 10/27/2017 at 9:41am |
| Viscaria FL - 91g + Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare) + Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃) = 184.8g |
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