Fujifilm X-T30 Review - Digital Photography Review
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84%Overall scoreJump to conclusion Fujifilm's X-T30 brings the same 26MP sensor, processor and much of the feature set of the high-end X-T3 at a more reasonable price. If that sounds familiar, it's because the relationship between the X-T20 and X-T2 was the same.
Recent VideosWith the X-T30 you get Fujifilm's latest AF system, along with plenty of direct controls and a tilting touchscreen, all in a smaller body. The X-T30 also comes at a significantly lower price than the X-T3, with the body priced at $899, versus $1499 for the X-T3. We'll discuss what features were cut in order to make the X-T30 the less expensive of the two options a bit later in the review.
Key specifications
- 26.1MP APS-C X-Trans BSI-CMOS 4 sensor
- X-Processor 4
- Hybrid AF system has 425 phase-detect points spread across the entire frame
- Burst shooting at 30 fps with no blackout (but 1.25X) crop using electronic shutter; 20 fps without crop
- 2.36M-dot OLED viewfinder w/0.62x equiv. magnification and 100 fps refresh rate in boost mode
- 3" tilting touchscreen display
- Dedicated drive, shutter speed and exposure compensation dials
- Joystick for AF point selection
- Eterna Film Simulation mode
- DCI and UHD 4K/30p capture using full width of sensor
- 4:2:0 8-bit internal recording or 4:2:2 10-bit HDMI output
- USB-C socket with headphone support
- Single SD card slot (UHS-I only)
That's a lot of camera for under $900, body-only. If you'd like to add a lens, you can get the camera and the 15-45mm F3.5-5.6 OIS Power Zoom lens for $999, or with the excellent 18-55 F2.8-4 lens for $1299. The camera is available in silver, black and the graphite silver version shown in this review.
What's new and how it compares
 | The X-T30 borrows the sensor and processor from the more expensive X-T3, and that's great news. Read more |
Body and handling
 | For a $900 camera, the X-T30 is surprisingly well-built. It has a tilting touchscreen LCD, nice EVF and direct controls that make it a pleasure to use (most of the time). Read more |
Operation and controls
 | In addition to four customizable buttons you can also 'swipe' the X-T30's LCD in one of four directions to adjust settings. The camera offers two different customizable menus so you can set it up the way you'd like. Read more |
First impressions
 | Shooting with the X-T30 is a mixed bag. The results are great, but the ergonomics need work. Read more |
Image quality
 | The X-T30's 26MP sensor offers great out-of-camera JPEGs and flexible Raw files. Read more |
Autofocus
 | While not class-leading, the X-T30's AF system is speedy and reliable in most (but not all) situations. Read more |
Video
 | Put simply, you won't find a better video camera in this price range than the X-T30. Read more |
Is the Fujifilm X-T30 right for you?
 | Whether you're a hardcore videographer, landscape photographer or a soccer mom, we've spelled out what the X-T30 is best suited for. Read more |
Conclusion
 | Find out if the X-T30 is the midrange stills/video hybrid to beat. Read more |
Sample gallery
 | View real-world photos taken with the Fujifilm X-T30. Read more |
- 1 Introduction
- 2 What's new and how it compares
- 3 Body and handling
- 4 Operation and controls
- 5 First impressions
- 6 Image quality
- 7 Autofocus
- 8 Video
- 9 Is the Fujifilm X-T30 right for you?
- 10 Conclusion
- 11 Sample galleries
- 12 Specifications
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All (1072)Most popular (15)Editors' picks (0)DPR staff (15)Oldest firstcb1cbCan any Fujifilm xt30 owners tell me about the tilt screen? The stores in my area don’t have the xt30 available for viewing. I do a lot of ground up skywards photography from flowers, mushrooms, etc., does the screen tilt enough to take these sort of shots or should I consider going a step down in quality and get the xt200 instead?
Like0Nov 26, 2020permalink
io_bg Hi, the screen tilts up to about 90° which may or may not be enough for you. If you're shooting at a really awkward angle, I'd suggest using the phone app.Or get the X-S10 which has a fully articulating screen ;)
Like1Feb 1, 2021permalink
Qbalion What about af tracking and eye tracking in family event scenarios. I'd like to hear some real life and objective opinions. Are there any firmware updates that improved af performance in those departments?What about any stabilization in X system? X-T30 has no and what about lenses? Do I need X-T4 to get any kind of IBIS or VR?
Like0Nov 24, 2020permalinkAlex Ramos TrujilloI've just bought the Fujifilm XT-30 and is one of the best cameras I've ever had. I own Nikon, Olympus and Leica cameras (never a Canon or a Sony, thank God) and the Fujifilm XT-30 is unique in its class.
Like1Nov 16, 2020permalinkIronfilmHow does the video autofocus of the X-T30/T3 compare with the video autofocus of the Panasonic G9?
Like0Aug 2, 2020permalink
JayNGu Well I love mine! Great camera and meets my needs perfectly.
Like3Dec 30, 2019permalink
MikeStern This camera with it’s sad battery life and lacking IBIS, doesn’t earn the gold award.
Like2Nov 28, 2019permalinkio_bg Apparently it does earn it.
Like8May 26, 2020permalinkMaxxum FanDPR Gold is given out like Candy at a sweet shop, doesn't mean a lot dude ;-D
Like2Jul 18, 2020permalinkBensflareIBIS may help with video but man has been shooting stills just fine without it for almost 200 years.
Like3Aug 13, 2020permalinkAbrasiveReducerWe used to focus manually too, but most people regard autofocus as a desirable feature.
Like0May 22, 2021permalinkMJXI'm new to DPReview and am considering buying the X-T30 for its compactness. I wonder if the built-in flash can be used with the Fujinon 18-55mm F2.8-4 without creating a shadow at relatively close range (typical indoor pictures).
Is there any owner who could confirm ?
Thank you.
Like1Nov 26, 2019permalinkMJXFor the review readers who would be interested in the answer to this question (that I also asked in the Fujifilm X System forum), user JNR gave me a pretty detailed answer:"At 18mm, no lens shadow until you reach to within 2 feet of subject. You are clear from less than 2.5 feet on out... and clear even closer at the longer focal lengths, of course. (The lens does extend at the longer focal lengths, but FoV narrows more quickly than the lens extends - if you follow.)"
Several tricks were also provided in the Fujifilm X System forum on diffusing more naturally the built-in flash light...
Like1Nov 26, 2019permalinkJayNGu At 18mm you get a shadow using the flash, at other focal lengths it seems fine. Pretty much expected....just shoot at 23 at least in those situations. Or use an external.
Like0Dec 30, 2019permalinkravi pratapAfter much dillydalling I decided to buy fujifilm xt30 just to know the mirrorless system and get a taste of new technology. Yes camera is small light just like compact cameras but even 15-55 lens is looking big and heavy on it , As per camera ergonomics the lenses on mirrorless should be much smaller and lighter where companies have failed, the biggest advantage of mirrorless cameras are it's small size and lightweight but big and heavy lenses almost make it similar to DSLR. I badly missed the optical viewfinder which was compensated by touch screen . With 15-55 lens both look identical, the fujifilm xt30 looked small brother of canon 80d.But that big heavy lens again compelling me to look to my old beloved canon sx60 with big zoom in small body while traveling and walking on hill and carrying all day on the shoulder. And daylight pictures are just as beautiful on canon sx60.
Like3Oct 22, 2019permalinkio_bg By 15-55 do you mean the XC 15-45? Cause it *is* a small lens.
Like0Oct 27, 2019permalinkravi pratapI mean 18 -55 lens which is almost same size and weight as DSLR lens.
Like1Oct 27, 2019permalinkio_bg Many mirrorless lenses are as big as DSLR ones. The 18-55 can be a little too heavy for the X-Tx0 bodies because of its weight. The two XC standard zooms are better fits for the smaller bodies IMO.
Like1Oct 27, 2019permalinkravi pratapI was planning to buy xt30 but was put off by very high price of fuji lenses compared to canon and nikon. Prime lenses are priced 3 times ! Why so high price, optically canon and nikon lenses are very good .
Like4Sep 21, 2019permalinkCaPiIs there a zoom lense besides the 18-55 kit offering you would recommend with this body?
Like0Sep 7, 2019permalinkravi pratapI think there is 18-135 zoom available
Like0Sep 14, 2019permalinkthscanThe newest 16-80mm f/4. 6-stops image stabilization.
Like0Sep 14, 2019permalinkCaPiThanks to you both. Aren’t they somewhat large?
Like0Sep 15, 2019permalinkravi pratapFor small zoom you have to look for third party lens like tamron, most of stand alone zooms are heavy and large, still mirrorless zooms are less heavy. If you want big zoom in compact body look for canon sx60 or 70 may be .
Like0Sep 15, 2019permalinkthscanThe 16-80mm is 440g. Not that bad.
Like1Sep 15, 2019permalinkCaPiMy Nikkor Z 24-70mm 1:4 is 500g. HmOk
Like0Sep 15, 2019permalinkthscanThe equivalent of 24-70 is 16-46 in aps-c terms. The new Fuji is 16-80mm, 24-120 in 35mm.
Like0Sep 15, 2019permalinkthscanThe Nikkor 24-120 weight is 710g. Heavier.
Like0Sep 15, 2019permalinkBIOGONSPlease, let me know where are you looking to say ; "capturing a bit more detail than the Sony a6400"? In my opinion the X-T30 4k video is less detailed, with a touch more aliasing:
https://www.dpreview.com/reviews/image-comparison/fullscreen?attr29_0=fujifilm_xt30&attr29_1=sony_a6400&attr72_0=4k&attr72_1=4k&normalization=full&widget=671&x=0.6654268736918826&y=-0.8091211708616731
https://www.dpreview.com/reviews/image-comparison/fullscreen?attr29_0=fujifilm_xt30&attr29_1=sony_a6400&attr72_0=4k&attr72_1=4k&normalization=full&widget=671&x=0.19795717904710736&y=-0.6467209506579847
Like0Jul 29, 2019permalinkGr222Fuji is getting better and better. Really good sensor in this camera. I try it and make some great photos. I really enjoy using it:https://greganna.com
Like4Jul 19, 2019permalink
fsc1 Well I have seen your work, just want to know which Fujifilm camera and lenses u have used...
Like0Jan 31, 2020permalinkperry rhodanI am glad Fuji is producing new bodies. But for me the entire UI and horrible grip is enough to dismiss them.
(Had xe2, xt 20), have the X30)
Like2May 16, 2019permalinkTomasz_WkYou can attch grips to the camera if you want to. That's what I did with the x-e2 when I was using heavier lenses.
Like0Jul 29, 2019permalinkwasTFThe UI is quite good compared to everybody else. Pentax, Canon, Nikon, Olympus and Panasonic are also good. Only Sony lacks still a bit behind.
Like1Aug 20, 2019permalinkEsmeralda MiraI bought the X-t30 6 weeks ago and I am very happy with it. But I am very surprised that in not one of the reviews I have read.., no one mentions the fact of the unbelievable weird placement of the tripod plate. I have to unscrew the plate every time I need to change battery or sd card. If I knew this in advance this could have been a deal breaker for me. I might have bought the x-t3 instead or reconsider a sony.
Like4May 13, 2019permalinkkiwidadThe Fuji grip does move it over and depending on the tripod mount width it may be mored enough to allow access
Like1May 20, 2019permalinkio_bg So does the cheaper Meike X-T10/20/30 grip.
Like0Oct 27, 2019permalink
TheJoker666 Can the high speed mode be turned off for 1080p to avoid cropping?
Like0May 12, 2019permalinkBill-NMThe grip...perhaps add an aftermarket grip ($40-$60 on Amazon... same one that fits the X-T20) ... and then remove it for max portability...
Like0May 7, 2019permalinkMikeFairbanksAfter looking through the review, and checking the X-T20 review, I think (if I'm not mistaken) that the T30 has a significantly better video system than the T20.
Wasn't the T20 using the whole width of the sensor but only every other line, but the T30 is using every line?
That part is a little confusing to me. Can anyone explain the difference in video capabilities between this new T30 and the older T20?
Thanks
Like1May 5, 2019permalinkMenttMost serious photographers are using prime lenses so not sure why even in Fujifilm third generation camera there is no image stabilization. Considering how much this camera costs ... If Olympus can do it ...
Like9May 4, 2019permalink
sebiruns Most serious photographers do not need IS in most situations. Shutter shock is a real thing unfortunately.
Like3Jul 17, 2019permalinkproxyMost serious photographers don't buy and use xt-30, most reasonable photoshooters incl. pros use IS and every other advantage technology offers. I also strongly suggest trying electricity one day... although still not perfect it makes life easier.
Like3Dec 29, 2019permalinksebiruns Not saying they shouldn‘t include it. Just saying most photographers using Nikon, Canon still shoot without IBIS. As far as I know it hasn’t held them back professionally. It is always good to have an extra tool to choose from. But it comes with a tradeoff not everyone wants to make.
Like2Jan 1, 2020permalinkkiwidadThe reviewers should really shoot more when they review especially video and especially not in sub arctic areas. If you plan on shooting 60p you better be somewhere cold or shooting very intermittently, If you plan to shoot video of your kid at a high school sporting event you could be disappointed with the X-T30. It overheats very quickly shooting video. If you hold the camera you will not reach any of its limits before it overheats!
Like3May 4, 2019permalinkravi pratapsurprised, reviewer did not notice it ,a major flaw, 4k overheat is common, does it overheat in 1080 too.
Like1Sep 15, 2019permalinkBensflareI don’t understand why anyone would consider this camera for video. The battery life is just too short. This is a stills camera, folks!
Like1Aug 13, 2020permalinkRootXExcellent camera
Like2May 2, 2019permalink
dmanthree Two of the three reviewers have issues with it and it gets a Gold rating?
Like6May 1, 2019permalinkravi pratapI could not understand the rating award, recently none of the canons getting gold awards, canon should quit camera making ? it is fuji ,sony or panasonic getting gold, xt30 is nice camera but at high price !
Like2Sep 15, 2019permalink
Henrik Helmers What I read was that they would pay extra for the upgrade to the X-T3. That does not make the X-T30 a bad camera. As I understand it, the gold award was given due to the excellent value proposition.
Like0Dec 21, 2019permalinkBeDifferentNotTheSame@ravi pratap High price? It's around $1000, which is around the same price as the Canon M6II and RP.
Like0Mar 14, 2021permalinkstevevelvia50IBIS and particularly dual IBIS, needs to be in every camera now, and yes it does work for portraits shot at 1/20 second, wildlife thats still even for a short time and the copious missed opportunities where the difference betweeen a very sharp still image verses a slightly blurred still image while hiking or walking city streets. Not to mention video! The best glass is immediately compromised without it in many slow shutter speed situations without a tripod. It just simply should be there! it’s a game changer. The fact the Fuji fails to see this and implement it as a regular feature is a fatal flaw in their design process! ! Yes, I still use a tripod for impossibly difficult shooting situations, and critical macro work where IBIS can’t control forward and backward movement of the camera. Why not just have it available?
Like3Apr 27, 2019*permalinkCmonTrue. Bought the X-T30 and I am going to sell it and keep my PEN-F. Did not thought that I will miss the IBIS so much...but shooting mainly with primes is just bad without IBIS nowadays when you know how it could be.
Like4Apr 29, 2019permalinkSeattle MyckHi Steve. I do know what you mean, but others may not. Dual IBIS is a bit incongruent. I think you mean Dual IS, ie. IBIS and lens stabilization. Correct? 😊
Like2Apr 30, 2019permalinkkiwidadand yet we all hand held for so many years sticking to basic rules and got sharp pictures without IBIS. reminds me of the shutter shock thoughts.. never had these problem with film!
Like6May 3, 2019permalink
Kevin Barrett I am simply astounded by the skill of photographers just five years ago who managed to pull-off taking beautifully sharp photos without IBIS. Those were the good ol' days for sure.
Like8May 6, 2019permalinkDaMacI feel like I need to defend the X-T30 against all the Sony fanboys/girls posting here. My history: a life-long Nikon shooter still loving my D750. Tried several times to get into Sony (NEX6, a6000, a6300, seriously considered a7III), but I didn't like the interface & shooting experience. Sonys feel like little technogadget dvd players that take pictures - not like cameras. That's just my (extensive and well-informed...) personal experience. Saw this little Fuji and decided to give a different compact APS-C system a try. My take after 3 weeks? The X-T30 is an amazing camera! My Sonys never left the bag, but I can't put the Fuji down. It's just fun to shoot with - and it's beautiful. Using my D750 is like playing my Taylor guitar. Using the Fuji is like playing my Les Paul or my Tele. Using a Sony is like playing the little plastic, stringless guitar video game controller from Guitar Hero. Do Sonys produce beautiful images? ABSOLUTELY. But that's not enough, at least not for me.
Like29Apr 25, 2019permalink(unknown member)I think you have summarised the Fuji appeal in a nutshell. It's not about the numbers, it's about the experience. Sony's seem to be designed by androids. Fujis are designed by humans, which makes them imperfect but lovable.
Like driving an Alfa Romeo instead of an Audi.
Like10Apr 27, 2019permalinkdansclicWith an Audi at least, you are not going to a car repair every two weeks....
Like3Apr 29, 2019permalinkdansclicWeek this is your experience and I have nothing to say against that. For my part, I got rid of all Fuji’s because the xt10/20/30 are too small to be kept comfortably in the hand, some lenses are so big and expensive that I decided to invest into Sony, keeping some m43 just for small travels, getting rid of all my too big and heavy Nikon at the same time. . Sony fits perfectly in my hands, af is always accurate (not so with Fuji unfortunately) and exposure is also more reliable. There is just one problem with Sony, they have no equivalent for the very good 18-55 Fuji. Their 24-70 f4 is weird, the f2,8 is too heavy and I do not like the 24-105 which has huge vignetting.
Like1Apr 29, 2019permalinkSeattle Myck@ 57evenHow about an Audi with manual trans? 😊 The only reason I piped in because I am desperately seeking an Audi A4 with manual trans, not S-tropic/DSG.
Like0Apr 30, 2019permalink(unknown member)@dansclic @Seattle Myck
Only interesting Audis were the original Quattro and the R8 ;-)
I never had any trouble with my Alfas. Well, no more than you would expect from a hot hot Italian mistress :-D
Like0Apr 30, 2019permalinkravi pratapSir, I have been extensively searching for a small mirrorless camera , since I m canon fan but none of the canon mirrorless apc is perfect , I do not like the color and photo quality, although canon DSLR are impeccable picture wise. Canon 80d is brilliant but big and heavy. I extremely liked the picture quality of fujit30 ,colors are simply excellent ,remimnded me of old Fuji film colors. Especially Fuji is master of green color.A bit skeptical about service facilities.
Like1Aug 3, 2019permalinkRodolfoHey 57! I still love my 2 black beauties: my ever-ready and so-able so-male-human-designed and built Audi allroad, as much as my so-human X10. ;-)
Like0Aug 7, 2019permalinkStevenNDaMac! I think you have finally pushed me off the fence!
I am also a lifetime Nikon shooter (starting with my Nikon S rangefinder as a teenager), and I currently shoot paid freelance photo jobs with my two D750s.
In addition, I also own a Les Paul and limited edition Tele, as well as a Gibson 335 and two acoustic guitars, so I understand your analogy.
I have been devouring every review I can about the X-T30, and like you said, it seems like a fun camera to shoot with. I have a large family reunion to go to at the end of the month, and I think the X-T30 (with a 16mm f2.8 for groups, or even the 18-55mm) would fill the bill.
Do you have a particular lens you enjoy using with this camera most?
Like0Nov 2, 2019permalink
Travelling Doctor I am also a long-term Nikon D750 affectionado, with 16-35 + 24-70 and 70-200 f2.8 lenses. Have had the X-T30 since July (+18-55mm lens) and I love it and it is my "go-to and take-everywhere" camera now. Had to invest quite a lot of time l;earning about it and getting the set-up perfect for me but now a real joy to use and helps me take great pictures (which is what matters). Light as a feather and the 18 to 55 lens is perfect. I use the EVF on boost mode and I now forget that it is an EVF and not an OVF. Use the Peak Design Slide Lite strap and have cut and filed down one side of the lower mount so I can still open the battery and SD card slot. Battery life excellent, even with the EVF Boost Mode, and even through I have a second battery I have almost necer used it, even when out photographing all day. The Nikon still gets used for special things like Landscape with long exposures and things and I will not be sellling it, but if you invest some time with it, the Fuji is just amazing!
Like1Jan 15, 2020permalinkmilkod2001Seem like decent camera for the price it sells. @Dpreview staffYou guys should do some sort of introductory to Fuji /Canikon/Sony etc systems one by one. Give people an idea what lenses are usually the best for its system, what accessories to buy, all cons/pros etc. It could be very useful for the ones who buy their first camera ever or for the ones who know nothing about other systems.
Like1Apr 24, 2019permalinkSony_NorthrupMy iphone shoots better photo than this overpriced piece of crap. Now watch the Fuji losers cry their rants on the comment section. Haha!
Like6Apr 23, 2019permalinkZed ManMy Pixel XL shoots better video than your iPhone piece of cr@p.Actually most iPhones do well, but not yours. Just as all your photos are garbage. But other people with the same cameras do much better. :D
Like14Apr 23, 2019permalinkCombatmedic870If you can't get better photo out of the xt-30 vs an iPhone. The. You should probably just stick to your iPhone.
Like9Apr 23, 2019permalinkRootXPinocchio
Like1May 2, 2019permalinkkiwidadsays the guy whose handle is sony and lists no gear.. comments worth as much a what my dog left in the yard this morning! Fuji must amazing gear to attract all the canon/sony trolls
Like1May 3, 2019*permalinkCaPiI do hope the Af evolves beyond the need for such C-AF tweaking. To my mind that's needlessly complicated at this day and age. Quite a number of offerings include more elegant automated approaches
Like0Apr 23, 2019permalinkkiwidadtweaking is a good thing. Never owned a computer or camera that could read my mind so unless it has AI to learn my needs its going to need tweeking.
Like0May 3, 2019permalinkCaPiAs a long time 3D tracking user I agree that tweaking is not a bas thing. But this implementation of fuji has potential beyond that
Like2May 3, 2019permalinkRootXGood job Fujifilm !
Like1Apr 22, 2019permalinkwwwuserThe "Golden Award", and ... the gallery of HORRIBLE, pitiful quality ("flat colors", a unpleasant contrast - the usual illness of Fuji). Top smartphones shoot today a lot better..
Like7Apr 22, 2019permalinkCaPiGlad to differ in opinion
Like0Apr 23, 2019*permalinknaththoMany are good photos on Apple screen but the contrast is a bit too harsh for my liking like highlight bit blown out? But I suspect it might be ETTR being used?
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Bueche @wwwuser - Agreed. I don't know what the DPR staff see that i don't. Pictures are flat and colors look somewhat artificiall. And then there are the usual 'worm'-like artifacts, which is a trade mark of the xtrans-CFA. The amount of 'worms' in the cherry(?) trees is nothing but stunning.
Like6Apr 23, 2019permalink
ikaika777 Don’t blame the camera.
Like0Jul 2, 2019permalinknaththoikaika777 what do you mean by that? I assume you mean by RAW image processing from LR cannot do it well with xtrans?
Like0Jul 17, 2019permalinkikaika777 @naththo, LR does a beautiful job with RAF files. I’ve never had “worms” in any of my photos but of course I know what I’m doing. Don’t blame the camera.
Like0Jul 17, 2019permalinknaththoOnce again I didn't blame camera, I blame the software processing. LOL The best software for Xtrans is Capture One, and other that does offer for Xtrans to demosaicing properly.
Like0Jul 19, 2019permalinkikaika777 @naththo, again I’ve never had a problem with LR and neither has thousands of other professional Fuji users. Some Fuji users like capture one and a lot of them hate it so saying it’s the best is merely your opinion. People who know how to use LR don’t have problems with Raf files.
Like0Jul 19, 2019permalinkRodolfoI often wonder whether some members may need new or re-calibrated monitors.
Like0Aug 7, 2019*permalinknaththoRodolfo, nope. Check the histogram that will tell you some photos highlight are blown out especially white blown out in the skies and white flowers are blown out and waterfall whitest part are blown out. Its the camera JPG out put not so great or the metering is up to no good with too much ETTR.
Like0Aug 7, 2019permalinkZed ManOnce nice thing is, after 10 minutes you can restart your video.I've owned 3 Sony cameras (A55, NEX 5T, and A7Rii) that overheated/shutdown in less time on hot days and were then "bricked" for more than 20 minutes.
If you want mostly video, just get a GH5/GH5s, XT3, or Z6. Those are the best video cameras these days.
Like3Apr 22, 2019permalink
BrentSchumer Newest Sony models have newer processors that don't overheat. The A6400 will record until you run out of batteries or SD card space.
Like2Apr 23, 2019permalinkCaPi@Brent: that was not his point. Its better to shut down before potentially overheating so you can just go again. A sound engineering call by Fuji for this small body.
Like0Apr 23, 2019*permalinkBIOGONSBig cameras like the ones you say disipate more heat and can record longer videos with large batteries.But I don´t like a big and heavy camera as those, and most people don´t need 4K.
Like1Apr 23, 2019permalinkBrentSchumer @CaPi. Or just use a camera that doesn't overheat at all. Like the A6400.
Like1Apr 23, 2019permalinkSony_NorthrupWow you own a lot of loser camera! Lol
Like1Apr 23, 2019permalinkCaPi@Brent: No need to worry on my behalf. Stills are my preference.
Like0Apr 23, 2019permalinkBrentSchumer Yeah I only do stills myself. I just don't like misinformation. Most Sony's are terrible with the overheating but this new processor seems to have turned the page.
Like0Apr 23, 2019permalinkCaPiThat would be great - they do a lot of ground breaking engineering
Like0Apr 23, 2019permalinknaththoI hardly use video function from digital still camera. If I want to video a lot I prefer dedicated proper video camera to function better. They have Sony video camera that can do much better than digital still camera that doesn't overheat a lot.
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skanter Lousy grip.
Like0Apr 22, 2019permalinkSir 7I cannot help but think I'M at fault for considering this primarily a stills camera, and that those I'm criticizing for bagging on its video prowess may actually be the true target customer?
Personally, video means almost or totally nothing to me in a camera that's not intended specifically to shoot video (i.e. a video camera). But so so many of this camera's complaint Comments are about video. Primarily that it can only shoot 4K for 10 minutes. I don't think I've EVER shot 4K video for more than 10 minutes straight except with my aerial camera.
Is the X-T30's primary purpose to be a video camera? Or are all of these video complaints just spec-sheet-peepers' (or fanb0ys of another brand's) identified "chink in the armor" to attack simply for the sake of attacking?
Like13Apr 19, 2019permalinkCaPiIf you read the reviews and comments every offering sesms to need to be a t least a hybrid or be downrated. As a stills shooter I advocate splitting off the video reviews completely. Make it DVR and DPR and save us the grief
Like2Apr 23, 2019permalinkSir 7Yeah, I've wanted the DVR/DPR separation for quite sometime now. The rating system is worthless when combining a STILLS camera's video capabilities into the rating. But the rating number and the Silver Award or higher that everything under the sun gets (unless it's just horribly horrible) can easily be dismissed. The reviews get muddied though when fusing photo and video capabilities.
Like2Apr 23, 2019permalink(unknown member)Agreed. I want a racehorse, and all I can buy is a camel.
Like0Apr 23, 2019permalinkGriveI guess that would be because it's now a very common use scenario, to use one system for both stills and video. And it's not like video does a lot of harm to the photography side.
If you want a stills-only system (I do, too, for that matter), it's up to you to read the review and decide what drawbacks aren't a problem for you. Because poor video is a drawback if the competition has a similar offering with better video. It might just not be a very important one for some people.
Like0Nov 6, 2019permalink
armanius @DPR Great review. Can you add a more detailed discussion about the "no blackout" EVF? Is it only in the crop mode? Or is is also no blackout on all other high speed shooting as long as it is with e-shutter? Is it truly a no blackout live view like the Sony A9? Or is it just showing the last photo taken in rapid succession? Thank you and great work!
Like2Apr 19, 2019permalinkjonbyThe "Is the X-T30 right for you?" section is a little too forgiving of some of the shortcomings.
Lack of IBIS plus low battery life should both have been listed as cons in Travel and Landscape scenarios at least. Mirrorless cameras are still competing with DSLRs, and battery life is one of the big differentiators here. Having the battery compartment so close to the tripod socket only exacerbates the problem of short battery life when using on a tripod, and the lack of IBIS makes it more likely that you will need to use a tripod.
Like11Apr 19, 2019permalinkio_bg The battery life of the X-T30 is not too different from the competition, if not better than most (in the same price bracket of mirrorless cameras, of course). And very few mirrorless APS-C cameras have IBIS, actually. The X-H1 is significantly bigger and more expensive and the a6500 lacks many of the (dedicated) APS-C lenses that Fuji offers.
Like4Apr 19, 2019permalinkdinoSnakeIBIS is the most overhyped feature of the decade, usually from users of systems that have it towards products that don't (note: I am a m43 user).
IBIS only works on still subjects, it doesn't work on anything else. Portraits, wildlife, sports, action, children, family...nope. Doesn't work.
So not having IBIS, all of a sudden, doesn't make the product unworthy or even a "minus". It just doesn't feature it. Period. Take it or leave it, your personal call but not everyone's.
Like23Apr 19, 2019permalinkvallhallI quess you dont use a camera with IBIS?
Like4Apr 19, 2019permalinkdinoSnake@vallhall
Oh, miss the "I'm a m43 user" comment, did you??
Yes, my cameras have IBIS. And it's STILL vastly overrated, again by users who have it and want to bludgeon others regarding it; I'm sorry that I take pictures of more than permanently stationary objects.
Video, yes!
Stills? The world went on for a century without it.
Like10Apr 20, 2019*permalinkikaika777 @dinoSnake, we get it, you don’t care about IBIS but it does come in handy when a tripod isn’t allowed in some places especially in low light. Stationary subjects might not be your thing but it is for a lot for other photographers. So IBIS might be “overhyped” to you but that’s just your irrelevant opinion based on your own style.
Like7Apr 20, 2019permalinkdinoSnakeikaika777 Thanks. Well, IBIS is completely irrelevant for portrait work, and of limited use for landscapes any time there is even the hint of a breeze. You can't use it with any activities such as airshows, dog shows, any sports or the like - it is useful for low light static street scenes and a few other situations and a real bonus for video work.
Like5Apr 20, 2019permalinks1oth1ovechunkWhat are you guys talking about? Ibis not useful for portraits or when the wind is blowing? Completely ridiculous.
Go to a concert and shoot with a short telephoto without any kind of IS. Many of your shots will be blurry. Now add in image stabilization and only the ones with rapid movement will be blurry. Your hand shakes much faster than people or things move in most cases. For example, 1/20 of a second is often fast enough to get sharp pictures of people from a distance as they move between poses. It is not fast enough to get sharp photos with a 85mm+ lens.
Like6Apr 22, 2019permalinkdinoSnake"It is not fast enough to get sharp photos with a 85mm+ lens."
So you contradicted yourself. What focal lengths are most commonly used for portraiture?
85mm+
The case has not been argued against, actually just reinforced.
Like2Apr 22, 2019permalinks1oth1ovechunkI only contradicted myself if you add in your own editorial subtext to my rapidly written reply.
Of course I mean "It [1/20s] is not fast enough to get sharp photos with a 85mm+ lens [without image stabilization]."
Again, 1/20s only works with image stabilization. That's the point. Otherwise even the photos where the subject is moving slowly enough are blurry from camera movement.
Those who say IBIS is overrated have not used it with unstabilized lenses in low light or just aren't very observant.
Like4Apr 22, 2019permalinkdinoSnakeAnd have you actually ever taken a portrait with a 85mm+ lens at 1/20, up to even 1/60 in some circumstances?
Because if you really did you'd know that, at those shutter speeds, IBIS is irrelevant because of *subject* movement. And, while at 1/20 a photograph *will* be captured, the finest details like eyebrows and eyelashes will end up blurred and lacking in finest definition. Not to mention the fact that, if you are at 1/20 with IBIS on a 85mm+ portrait lens doing a classic portrait crop, you are almost certainly wide-open to get up to that shutter speed in the first place and you'll have a serious negation in depth of field, with a paper-thin rendering plane.
So saying that you can get a portrait with IBIS at 1/20 is absolutely true...as long as you don't mention the serious sacrifice in output quality that accompanies it.
Like2Apr 23, 2019permalinkCharrick1@dinoSnake: Portraits, wildlife, sports, children, family... All of those can be helped with IBIS. Firstly, portraits (including those of family, and including any children who are not at full gallop) tend to be still. Wildlife is often still also (standing giraffe, bird on a branch), but at a great distance, which requires a long lens and stabilization. For sports, you often want a smooth pan without jittery vertical movement, and certain systems aid with that and are preferable to no stabilization at all, which introduces vibrations while panning.
Like5Apr 23, 2019permalinks1oth1ovechunkThere's a clear difference in usability between a blurry photo and a relatively sharp one where individual eyelashes cannot be discerned. I delete blurry photos. I don't delete photos I can't count eyelashes on. I may not print them at 8x10 but they still can be nice photos.
Also, I don't have a 135 format camera with Ibis. My micro four thirds cameras with Ibis have the perfect amount of depth of field wide open most of the time.
Like0Apr 23, 2019permalinkstevevelvia50The false information about IBIS not being effective with slow shutter speeds of subjects that move slightly, simply isn’t true. Slow moving subjects won’t really be as affected as one may think, a dancer in a momentary pose, someone who shifts from different positions during s portrait session, owls roosting on a nest late in the day, a quick street portrait while walking the city...many examples. One well known reviewer has mentioned this limitation of ibis as well, and with all due respect, I disagree!
Like1Apr 27, 2019*permalinkkiwidadI read about how a camera is so poor without IBIS and think back to my 35mm days.... Someone hereabouts claimed they could get 5 second exposures with IBIS and handheld....
Maybe some of the IBIS folk need to go back to camera school and learn how to hold a camera :-)
Like0May 3, 2019permalinks1oth1ovechunkYou mean back when you had to do a huge print to pixel peep?
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mrfabio For me a camera without in-body stabilisation in 2019 doesn't deserve a Gold review so disagree with this review independently by all the other strengths.. I was hoping to have it in this new release and ready to switch from Olympus E-m5 ii to Fuji...pity.
Like12Apr 19, 2019permalinkwats0nIf IBS was important, no one would buy a camera without it.
Like18Apr 19, 2019permalinkmrfabio That's true, especially if owners buy stabilised lenses. I would not, at least initially. So for me it's important. Very important for videos, indoor shooting.. considering the price I don't see why I should not have these advantages
Like5Apr 19, 2019permalinkballwin12If IS is very important to you, don't buy any Fujifilm cameras (H1 is an exception). I also have Nikon Z system otherwise I would not preorder this XT30.
Like0Apr 19, 2019permalinkHelmholz WatsonI might be willing to switch to Fuji if their primes had image stabilization. I don’t need something amazing (apparently Panasonic and Olympus have incredible IS), I just need something to get rid of microjitters for video. Fuji seems to weatherproof their primes, while Sony tends to OSS their primes. It would be nice if the brands had three options of each — weather resistant, IS, or both.
Like2Apr 19, 2019permalinkikaika777 @mrfabio, I’m a Fuji user and I agree with you. It blows my mind that Ricoh can put 3-axis IBIS in their small GRIII and Fuji can’t figure out how to implement IBIS past the X-H1. That tells me they don’t care about being competitive in 2019 and that’s a wrong move in my opinion. Maybe Fuji should hire the engineers from Ricoh and Olympus to show them how it’s done.
Like6Apr 20, 2019permalinkmrfabio Indeed, I am thinking the same. It must not necessarily be the best in the market...but just an help with videos or with some creative shots with slow shutter speeds...so weird! I would have switched for sure from Olympus. The X-H1 is too much for me, and also too bulky unfortunately...
Like0Apr 20, 2019permalink
Sezano Gentlemen, gentlemen, Yes xt-30 with image stabilization is possible to make and sell for only $1499
What I want is the same XT-30 with zero video capabilities at $450-499 instead.
Like3Apr 20, 2019permalinkmrfabio So let’s ask for two versions, a lite and a complete one 👌 I have a E-M5 II since four years with powerful IBIS, for much less than 1499...where it’s written that btw?? IBIS is not only for video, and I am not into it too but sometimes it happens you may need it if you use the camera like travel camera. Also Dpreview wrote recently that all the new cameras should have IBIS..
Like1Apr 20, 2019permalinkCharrick1@wats0n: So are you telling mrfabio what's important to him? Your comment is akin to saying, "If automatic transmission was important, no one would buy a car without it." (With your meaning being that "Manual transmission cars are still sold. Therefore, automatic transmission is not important.")
Like0Apr 23, 2019*permalinkPixel8888The lack of IBIS is hard to understand in Fujis FX and GFX system. I am glad at least my cheap 16-50 II is stabilized. It's a great help shooting in dark temples and museums or the jungle. Travel photography without it would be much harder.
I used my 27mm recently after climbing 300 stairs up to a temple. Well, bad decision I should have used the stabilized lens.
And IBIS could also allow the implementation of pixel shift.
There is a great article of Ming thein on his website "bigger is not always better" showing the importance of stabilization.
Like1Apr 23, 2019permalinkCaPiThanks for the great review.And also Thank you for not picking up too much / repeating the endless X-Trans Raw and IBIS discussions.I am rather sick of them.
Like5Apr 19, 2019permalink
getochkn That's what the comment section is for. How anyone took a picture before IBIS is unknown.
Like13Apr 19, 2019permalinkCaPiand of course every one only ever buys bodies with IBIS when asked.
Like1Apr 19, 2019*permalinkgaulFrom a Canon shooter, am not sure if this little one delivers, but it sure is a SEXY BODY!!
Like5Apr 19, 2019*permalinkSezano It delivers
Like4Apr 21, 2019permalinkMikeStern When comparing it to A6400, you forgot an important fact. No recording time limit on a6400 on 4K. In my opinion, in this time of the year, while more cameras started to offer no limit in recording video, xt m-30 clearly falls short on receiving gold award just because of this fact. 10 min. That’s sad. Not even 30 minutes like 3 year old cameras.
Like5Apr 19, 2019permalinkTomasz_WkNot everyone make +30 minutes clips.
Like5Apr 20, 2019permalinkChainpuller2 issues for me:1) short eye point makes the EVF hard work for glasses wearers, I was hoping it (unlike the T20) would inherit the EVF from the higher spec camera2) limited support for Fuji raw files which makes the workflow more convoluted
Neither mentioned in the review.
Like2Apr 19, 2019permalinkCaPiBoth have been mentioned 100s of times in previous reviews but ok. Its true^ ^
Like1Apr 19, 2019*permalinkCaPiBtw I also wear glasses and think the EVF just takes some time to get used to
Like1Apr 19, 2019permalinkikaika777 What limited support for Fuji raw files? Even Adobe Lightroom has their brand new “enhance” feature for Fuji raf files now. There’s no excuse now.
Like3Apr 20, 2019permalinkCaPiWould be Great if it would do any good. Waste of processing power in my experience
Like1Apr 20, 2019permalink
UncoyDP EVF is much, much better on the X-T3. Unfortunately the X-T3 is a substantially bigger body (leaving weight out of it) and attracts similar attention as a DSLR.
Like1Apr 22, 2019permalinkCaPi@uncoy and the x-t3 has no grip to speak of without accessories. If you feel you need to improve that grip for extended session itlooks even bigger
Like0Apr 23, 2019permalinkkiwidadfuji added all these features folk want (that also add cost) into a and X-T3. I am guessing the lack of kept the price to a place we are happy about
Like0May 3, 2019permalink
yzhenkai A great little camera
Like8Apr 19, 2019permalinkDominicVIII bought a Fuji along with two lenses a couple of years ago, only to sell my Fuji stuff a few months later. Reason: the Fuji lenses that I wished to add to my collection were far too expensive. Now I am a happy bunny in cheapo micro four thirds land. Fuji seem quite unwilling to manufacture reasonably priced prime lenses nor are they being cooperative towards Sigma and Tamron. I Fuji don't want me, I don't want Fuji.
Like4Apr 18, 2019permalinkSir 7Oh man... for me personally THE biggest reason to shoot a Fuji is for the lenses! I've been shooting pro Nikkors for decades, and on the occasions that i have a chance to play with a Fuji, i always revel in how the lenses render. They're REALLY good! Hell, even the 18-55mm kit lens is really nice, lol!
We all have our own budgets and (un)willingness to spend our hard-earned cash, but Fuji glass is special stuff.
Anyhoo, i hope your MFT move had been rewarding for you.
Peace. 🙂
Like12Apr 19, 2019permalinkCaPibeing used to the pricing of FF lenses I thought the F2 WR lenses to be a bargain (Fuji). They are plenty good
Like5Apr 19, 2019permalinkUncoyDP The f2 WR trio are quite nice although the only one which is optically sound is the 23mm. The rest are all jimmied up Sony style automatically corrected messes.
The pricing of the fast Fuji glass is depressing. More money to suffer sensor restricted photos. I've owned three Fuji cameras and have given up trying to shoot more than casual street and meetings with friends with Fuji FX. I'd hate to spend a lot of money on glass for that system.
Like1Apr 23, 2019permalinkvallhallSo in other words, i am better off with a Pen F or GX9 with ibis in low light with static subjects, than this Xt30?
Like1Apr 18, 2019permalink
Birdy1970 why not? GX9 is a very good cam. but if u use it like me near the G9, the crop in movie is little bit anoying. but its just a little bit. if i need extreme!! low light, i choose a full frame second cam. but i dont need it. low light with G9/GX9 is very good to me with the right lens.
Like1Apr 18, 2019permalinkvallhallI know GX9 is a good cam, and i have the GX8!, Why would you need FF if you use a 1.7 lens or faster? . I have taken good pics in almost total darkness with my slow 12-35 2.8
Like1Apr 18, 2019permalinkAndrooleSpecifically for static subjects? Yes, the GX9 will be much better. If you are using lenses with the same f-number on both the X-T30 and the GX9, the GX9 will be about 3 stops better, due to the IBIS.
Like2Apr 18, 2019permalinkvallhallOk, i would choose GX9 based on that!
Like0Apr 19, 2019permalinkCritical ThinkerAnd dont forget Fuji is actually a stop lower due to their own cheating ISO measurements (ISO1600 is really ISO800 etc) so Panasonic is an additional stop faster.
Like3Apr 19, 2019permalinkAndrooleEh, let's not go nuts. Fuji has reined in their ISO overstating since they introduced the 24MP sensor, and regardless it's not particularly relevant to the situation here.
APS-C sensors ARE bigger than M4/3 sensors. They let in about 2/3 EV more light. And the technology levels are pretty similar, so that will translate to about 2/3 EV better RAW noise performance, regardless of how the camera determines ISO.
...but the GX9's IBIS should be good for at least 3-4 stops, do it still ends up 3 stops better on the balance.
Like2Apr 19, 2019*permalinkCritical ThinkerSony APS-C and Canon APS-C still perform a stop faster than Fuji at the same ISO setting. Compared to m43 they have even more of an advantage than What Fuji should be getting due to their false ISO readings.
Like1Apr 19, 2019permalink
celestialemissary If we ignore the fact that there are OIS lenses
Like3Apr 19, 2019permalinkMikeStern Iso cheating and 10 minute limit on 4K are your good reasons to move towards panny.
Like0Apr 19, 2019permalinkwats0nHey micro 43rds is great for you people stepping up from smartphones, so if you prefer the format, enjoy it !-
Like0Apr 19, 2019permalinkAndrooleWats0n - the condescension is unbecoming, and frankly a little bit embarrassing while the rest of us are having adult conversations about legitimate pros and cons.
Like2Apr 19, 2019permalinkworldcup1982You are better off with a tripod
Like1Apr 20, 2019permalinkikaika777 @Critical Thinker, um, how is it “cheating” when Fuji uses one of the two iso industry standards? I guess that means Nikon and Leica are cheating too. Try thinking critically. 🤦🏼♂️
Like1Apr 20, 2019permalinksamualsonAn excellent camera but my God man , could Fuji make it look a little more stylish , it's one of the most horrific looking camera's i have ever seen . Brown bagging it with just the lens exposed might work .
Like4Apr 18, 2019permalinkUncoyDP I don't know about that Sam – I and a solid group of photographers find the X-T20/30, X-T2/3 and X-E3 about the best looking cameras in the world. Not quite sure what's wrong with your aesthetic sense.
Like21Apr 18, 2019permalinkAndrooleLike father, like son.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/142014999@N04/42338167540
Like3Apr 19, 2019*permalink
JPTHEOG I guess if I was to compare shooting the X-T30 with a slower lens versus shooting say a m43 cam with IBIS, I'd end up using higher ISO's with the Fuji, but the nice thing about Fuji is you can get away with it given the solid performance with this sensor, so for stills its probably a wash.
For video though, I think the IBIS in a m43 cam would be superior to the lens OIS on a FUJI Zoom (if that is what you are using, big if as you may have a prime mounted) and the focusing capability would be superior on the phase detect sensor (unless you have an E-M1 which is not really the competitor here.
I think if Fuji had IBIS, it would be a clear choice, but it also depends on what you value.
Like3Apr 18, 2019permalinkOch EloI wouldn't say even for stills it's a wash. With something like a 50mm equiv lens, I'd say IBIS on a M43 easily gives you 4 stops, offsetting the roughly 1-2 stops advantage of the larger Fuji sensor.
Like2Apr 18, 2019permalinkAndroole...you mean the 2/3 stop (0.7 EV) advantage of the larger Fuji sensor.
Like3Apr 18, 2019*permalinkOch EloIf that comment was intended for me, I intentionally overstated just to avoid the inevitable X-Trans superiority comments, because even then the IBIS of M43 offsets, so wasn't too important to my argument.
Like2Apr 18, 2019permalinkUncoyDP Who the heck measures low light capability by IBIS stops? Does no one shoot action any more? IBIS does not stop movement and IBIS leaves most frames just slightly blurry (unless you shoot five or six of them and pick the best).
Night still lifes: If you want to shoot really good low light still lifes, what you want is a tripod and not IBIS. A tripod gives you 15 stops not 2.5.
Like8Apr 18, 2019permalinkekaton@UncoyDP. For moving subjects mft offers plenty of fast, and already fully open, perfectly sharp lenses which compensate for the 0.7 stop advantage of the slightly bigger sensor. And don't forget the dof advantage of fully open mft glass for moving subjects (in this case more dof is better!) i.e. a 25mm f1.4 fully open on mft might work but a 35mm f1.4 on apsc might have to thin a dof for moving subjects. An equation with a number of variables🤔...... and surprise, surprise, the "inferior" sensor equipped camera might put up a good fight as part of a system.
Like2Apr 19, 2019permalinkCaPi@Agius: Fuji did have IBIS with their X-H1. I never actually saw one in use in real life.. or the body outside of a retail shop for that matter.
Like1Apr 19, 2019*permalinkSezano While my XT-10 output is lovely the ergonomics are not. Wonder if T-3 will fit the bill.
Like1Apr 18, 2019permalinkUncoyDP Ergonomics and viewfinder on the X-T3 are superb. I prefer (just barely) the small size of the X-T20 for its ability to pass discretely on the street or in a concert. But if you accept just a little bit bigger camera, the X-T3 is a joy to work with. Video capabilities are amazing, with lower rolling shutter and less noise at low and moderate ISO than an A7 III (tested personally, head to head).
Like1Apr 18, 2019permalinkwebber15I had the xt10...loved it, ergonomics included.
Like3Apr 19, 2019permalinkSir 7Really? The X-T3 has less noise than a 7M3 at low ISO??? Wow, I'm REALLY surprised to hear that! Do you mean for video? Or stills and video?
Like1Apr 19, 2019permalinkSezano Thank you Uncoy. I like street photography and for that I use the GRs and the DPs of the world but you know how it is, some of us get bored and want to shuffle unnecessary gear.
Like0Apr 20, 2019permalinkUncoyDP @Sir 7 For video. At low ISO (ISO 800 and less). Video from both was about equally good at ISO 1600 and the A7 III takes over from ISO 3200 on. The sensor cannot keep up for stills of course.
Since video shutter speed is usually about 1/48th second, crazy high ISO is much less important for video than for stills where one might wish to have 1/1500 second shutter speed for action.
Like0Apr 22, 2019permalinkSir 7@Uncoy:Thanks for the info. 👍
Like0Apr 22, 2019permalinkSir 7@Uncoy:Thanks for the info. 👍
Like0Apr 22, 2019permalinkBlumfeldAnd again: No panning etc. in the sample video. :-(
Like1Apr 18, 2019permalinkAndroolePans in video generally look bad, though. Most people do it far too quickly.
Even with a global shutter (or mechanical shutter on an ARRI!) you still need to pan smoothly and slowly to get a nice look, at least at lower fps like 24p or 30p.
Like2Apr 18, 2019*permalinkgetochkn Firmware update out to make the Q button a long press. No accident hitting.
Like9Apr 18, 2019permalinkmferenczWithout IBS this is a silver award if it's named Canon, Nikon, Sony, Panasonic. It's too big an omission to gloss over.
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eivissa1 I think you are right on this one.
Like2Apr 18, 2019permalinkwats0nNah, IBS is ok, but not necessary. The Fuji offers so much more than other brands and that’s why it gets the gold award.
Like19Apr 18, 2019permalinkNCBIt's not just IBIS. It's camera with a lot of nice features, and output which some will go for, maybe some won't. But to get a Gold you really ought to at least equal the opposition on nearly everything, and be a clear leader on significant features.
Take the G90/G95. It offers IBIS, weather sealing, better ergonomics, a better EVF, and a good 24-120 equivalent kit lens as opposed to a 27-83 kit lens. The X-T30 bests the G90/G95 on some features but loses out on significant ones. It's a Silver at most.
Like4Apr 18, 2019permalinkAndrooleAgreed.
The weighting is very strange on this award. It seems almost entirely to be towards pure image quality, and substantially weighted towards video quality, especially.
As you say, the G95 will definitely only get a Silver Award, despite being significantly better than the X-T30 in a broad number of ways.
Like5Apr 18, 2019permalinkozturertWhen it is Fuji or Sony, almost all negatives are neglected. If this was a Canon or Panasonic, it'd get a much lower point.
Like3Apr 18, 2019permalink
SpeedyNeo Specs on paper don't matter a lot. Most android phones have superior specs than iPhone and yet perform far worse. The usability, design and performance is what matters. The X-T30 apparently excelled on those aspects.
Like4Apr 18, 2019permalinkAndroole...literally no one is talking about specs on paper, here.
Like1Apr 18, 2019permalinkJayNGu Sorry m4/3rds fans...I'll take the APS-C sensor any day over IBIS. It's only helpful for static low light shots where you can go slow on the shutter speed. Over-rated feature IMO and useless for me. Low light for means either people who tend to move, or nightscape or astro where you need a tripod.
Like5Apr 18, 2019permalinkAndrooleThat's a fairly narrow, reductive way to look at a feature with extremely broad applicability.
The ability to hike into the backcountry with no tripod and easily take a photo like this when the opportunity and the composition presents itself has value to me. Maybe not to you.
https://i.imgur.com/W7wu12k.jpg
This isn't low light, but is a shot where it is totally impossible to substitute a larger sensor for good stabilization. Just as IBIS doesn't help with low-light where you need fast shutter speeds, neither does a big sensor help with situations where you want slow shutter speeds intentionally.
...As an aside, we'll ignore the fact that APS-C sensors are only slightly bigger than M4/3. It's not like there's a major difference in low light performance in the real world...
Like3Apr 18, 2019permalinkJayNGu @Androole - I like your shot, thanks for the link. I like to hike and take pics too. Once you are outdoors during the day, a zoom lens with OIS can do effectively the same thing. Fuji's 18-55 with built-in OIS is good for shots like that. It's still f/2.8 at 18mm.
This debate goes round and round...I'm just in the IBIS is "no big deal camp" but am biased by the type of photography I like and only into video very casually.
I would agree with your 3rd point and can understand the many photographers where the 4/3rd sensor works for them, it is a negative to many, however. I've been in the APS-C camp for a long time, its my comfort zone so I rate it fairly high, but that's only an opinion. It's why with talk about marking cameras down for not having IBIS, I would mark them down for a 4/3rd sensor, especially something very expensive like the OMD E-M1X.
Like3Apr 18, 2019*permalinkAndrooleYep, I can get behind all that.
"It's why with talk about marking cameras down for not having IBIS, I would mark them down for a 4/3rd sensor, especially something very expensive like the OMD E-M1X."
In fairness, I think both already do happen in the reviews here. I don't think even the most ardent M4/3 boosters (well, maybe some of them...) will deny the compromises associated the smaller sensor size. I certainly know the tradeoffs I'm making!
Thanks for the compliment, and thanks for having a civil conversation! I hope I didn't come across too harshly, I feel like it's too easy to end up in a bit of a mean spirited conversation on here, since so many people don't seem to want to engage in good faith (or at the very least, can't see other people's points of view and what is informing their choices).
Like1Apr 18, 2019permalinkUncoyDP The image you posted @Androole is mushy (like most long exposure IBIS) and lacks sharp definition. What you need here is a better sensor and a tripod, even a mini-tripod. Rollei makes a good one which weighs all of 800g with panoramic ballhead.
Like1Apr 18, 2019permalink4sofnatureFor $900, X-T30 and A6400 should both get the gold award for so many other pro features they give you.
Like2Apr 19, 2019permalinkozturert4sofnature, then there should be a platinum award for ÉM10 III because it has uncropped 4K from a 4.6K together with IBIS. And it costs a lot less than both.If EM10 III was called Fujifilm or Sony EM10 III, we'd see many separate articles about how great it is.
Like0Apr 19, 2019permalinkSir 7Yeah, it should have IBIS.
Even if just so that you can shoot 1-stop lower ISO. That's a pretty big difference. Afterall, the difference in noise between APS-C and FF (from the same manufacturer) is just a little more than a stop. Fuji could have included IBIS at this price...
Like3Apr 19, 2019permalinkMikeStern “Fuji offers much more than others so deserves the gold award”... lol. Like 10minutes 4K:)
Like2Apr 19, 2019permalinkSir 7I cannot help but think I'M at fault for considering this primarily a stills camera, and that those I'm criticizing for bagging on its video prowess may actually be the true target customer?
Personally, video means almost or totally nothing to me in a camera that's not intended specifically to shoot video (i.e. a video camera). But so so many of this camera's complaint Comments are about video. Primarily that it can only shoot 4K for 10 minutes. I don't think I've EVER shot 4K video for more than 10 minutes straight except with my aerial camera.
Is the X-T30's primary purpose to be a video camera? Or are all of these video complaints just spec-sheet-peepers' (or fanb0ys of another brand's) identified "chink in the armor" to attack simply for the sake of attacking?
Like2Apr 19, 2019*permalinkeivissa1 "The X-T30 is a better camera than the G95, especially in terms of video" said mr. Butler. Mr Butler did not mention the superior IBIS of the Panasonic vs the lack of IBIS in the T30 in the first place. It is impossible to make great video without IBIS. So therefore the conclusion of mr. Butler was drawn too quickly imho. Silver Award would be more suitable if a camera has no IBIS..
Like7Apr 18, 2019permalinkAndrooleAbsolutely not impossible to make great video without IBIS.
... But you basically need a tripod. Which makes for very different shots.
A $500 gimbal works, too.
Like7Apr 18, 2019permalinkeivissa1 Gimbal or tripod, very handy.... No thanks!Cost you more also. IBIS should be standard in a (compact) camera these days!
Like3Apr 18, 2019*permalinkAndrooleI absolutely agree that IBIS should be standard. It's a wonderful feature that vastly extends the shooting envelope and allows you to get shots that are impossible to get without it (even with big sensors).
... But that still doesn't change the fact that your initial statement was unhelpful hyperbole.
Like8Apr 18, 2019permalinkits_a_knifeYou can buy a $5 monopod that would look better on video than IBIS. There's so much jello-ing that happens with IBIS. it doesn't make for good video. Yeah it helps if you're shooting on a shoulder rig or a monopod but you shouldn't be using IBIS just by itself. That's some super lazy filmmaking right there. Fuiji and Panasonic understand this, and leave it out of their MILC's geared towards video.
Like9Apr 18, 2019permalinkozturertWhen it is Fujifilm, no issue is biggie. If it is Canon or Panasonic, all issues are exaggerated to sky high limits.
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Carey Rose I thought the video sample reel, half of which is handheld using a stabilized lens, actually looked quite good without IBIS. Of course, a nonstabilized lens would look much worse, but the readout speed of this sensor is so fast that you get much less wobbly/jello effect than some other options at this price point.
Like9Apr 18, 2019permalinkUncoyDP The Fuji XF 18-55mm f2.8-4 OIS is far better than Sony IBIS (tested head to head against A7 III) and equals MFT IBIS (depends on camera). For stabilised video you need one zoom with OIS as shooting handheld video at f2 is just not on (won't be in focus). For shots with very shallow depth of field you'll want support.
This IBIS argument is tedious and shallow.
Like4Apr 18, 2019permalinkSir 7I get the argument for using a tripod or monopod. It's valid. Buuut... the reality is that most people don't want to carry support around with them or go through the pain/restriction of being in a not-immediately-adjustable position that supports tie you to. I have 6 (i think) tripods and a monopod, and i almost never use any of them. Of course, when i need them they're indispensable. But without specific need for them, I'm all about VR or IBIS.
Different strokes... 🙂
Like2Apr 19, 2019permalinkMikeStern UncoyDP. I think you are not getting what IBIS is. Stop comparing IBIS to tripods people. They don’t really compensate for each other. Ibis will eventually be standard in every camera soon. Ones without it are simply short or late on technology. Ibis allows you to use all kinds of lenses stabilized. You don’t carry around heavier lenses because each lens having ois. let alone carrying tripod for every shoot is stupid. Tripods will be soon crutches for handicapped cameras only. Lens technology must continue for smaller sharper and better rendering glass, while stabilization must be handled in the body. Get used to it.
Many brands figured this out, including Fuji but not able to bring it down to xt-30. Short on technology.
Like2Apr 19, 2019permalinkits_a_knifeIt's not because they're short on tech, it's because IBIS in a camera that's probably going to have more video use than photo, it doesn't make sense. If cameras don't have IBIS it's not because they're short on tech. I mean if that was true then there would be no reason for the GH5s to exist but it does and is used quite frequently.
Like0Apr 19, 2019permalinkUncoyDP Mike, did you fail to read the whole comment – Fuji's kit lens beats Sony IBIS hands down and gives the best MFT IBIS a run for its money. So Fuji has video stabilisation sorted for its clients ahead of time (kit lens with great stabilisation and image quality which exceeds 4K).
The X-T30 includes an APS-C size sensor in a 300g body. No there's no space in a mid-size sensor body that small to add IBIS. The Sony A6500 is a beefy 650g.
The Panasonic GH5S does not include IBIS – IBIS has its uses but mainly IBIS is a weak crutch for poor technique and a tool to take poor photos (low light still lifes at high ISO with 1/4 second exposure and wide open aperture is of limited photographic merit regardless of framing. That low light still life calls out for f8 15 second exposure at ISO 100.
Like1Apr 19, 2019permalinkozturertUncoyDP, there is no way Fuji 18-55 matches or beats m43 Ibis. No way. You have clearly not used any m43 camera in the last 3-4 years. Even an "old" GX85 has better IBIS than Fujifilm 18-55 OIS. And with Dual IBIS it is way better.And that is normal because OIS in 18-55 is old. I used it with XH1 and XT3, and clearly it is inferior in photos and videos. Otherwise it is a good lens.Compared to EM1 II and 12-100mm, 18-55mm loses big time by the way.
Like2Apr 19, 2019permalinkUncoyDP Thanks for sharing your own hands-on experience, Ozturert. I've used the Panasonic Lumix DMC-G81 out of recent MFT models. I only used it with the built-in IBIS, not with double OS. That was not head to head against the Fuji XF 18-55mm f2.8-4 OIS.
On the other hand, I did test head to head on a double mount in parallel the Fuji XF 18-55mm f2.8-4 OIS vs Sony A7 III IBIS at both 35mm equivalent and 50mm equivalent. The Sony A7 III IBIS footage was literally unwatchable while the Fuji OIS was agreeably smooth.
PS. Yes, I had the steadyshot settings set to the correct focal length on the A7 III (the 35mm test was with native Sonnar 35mm f2.8).
Both do fine when just hand holding and not moving. Much better of course (no micro-tremors) than unstabilised hand-holding. Just panning is already a bit bumpy with the Sony at the start and the end (the IBIS wants to hold the host), while the Fuji OIS reacts well to deliberate horizontal movement.
Like2Apr 19, 2019permalinkyayatosorusSeems like a nice camera. And yes there are some areas where its not the best, but it's nice to see Fuji trying to fix the issues (for example they just released fw 1.01 that tries to address the Q button accidental press). $1299 or even $899 is a big investment for some people, so knowing that the manufacturer pays attention to lower tier models like the X-T30 (although it is from what I understand a very good lower tier camera) is very respectable. I mean, when you take in account the fairly big competition created by other camera and smartphone manufacturers leading to arguably very pleasant and innovative products (meant generally) , what a time to be into photography.
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zakaria "Good as gold "!What a bias from the first sentence!!Iam a fujifilm user btw.
Like6Apr 18, 2019permalinkwats0nThe difference between Sony, Nikon, and Canon these days has become less and less exciting. Fuji is one of the few companies that is trying to capture the heart of photography which has been lost to a world of companies that are simply playing the numbers game.
Like10Apr 18, 2019permalinkSezano Zaharia it is a bias-ist take, but we love it.
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