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G1610 vs G2020
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toronado455

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Sep 19, 2012 38 0 66 http://ark.intel.com/compare/71072,71070 For a basic machine for just eMail and web browsing only. Can someone confirm that the Celeron G1610 has integrated graphics support? I'm confused because on the Intel page under "Graphics Specifications" it shows a blue "Yes" only for the Pentium G2020 under "Processor Graphics". (although both chips show "Intel® HD Graphics" under "Graphics Model") Last edited: Mar 2, 2013 Tsavo

Tsavo

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Sep 29, 2009 2,645 37 91 It has integrated graphics. I

Insert_Nickname

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May 6, 2012 4,971 1,693 136 It has an IGP (HD2500). Though all the "fun" parts are disabled... :( T

toronado455

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Sep 19, 2012 38 0 66
Insert_Nickname said: It has an IGP (HD2500). Though all the "fun" parts are disabled... :( Click to expand...
I think HD 2500 is only for core i series, not Celerons & Pentiums. I think Celerons & Pentiums have a plain vanilla "HD Graphics" which is different. S

SPBHM

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Sep 12, 2012 5,060 413 126
toronado455 said: I think HD 2500 is only for core i series, not Celerons & Pentiums. I think Celerons & Pentiums have a plain vanilla "HD Graphics" which is different. Click to expand...
the name is "HD Graphics" only, but it has nothing in common with the old "HD Graphics" from the first gen i3/i5... it's actually just the HD2500 (for ivy bridge Celerons/Pentiums) with quick sync disabled as far as I know... the same goes for Sandy bridge pentiums (HD 2000) so 3d performance is basically the same... but the video conversion acceleration is missing. DominionSeraph

DominionSeraph

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Jul 22, 2009 8,386 32 91 Just note if you're building a full system, you probably can't beat Dell's price. Dell Outlet is having a 3 day sale right now for 20% off their entire inventory, which means you can get a $289 Inspiron 660s with a Pentium G645 for $231 after coupon code 8tbhws09mkst9l. Jimzz

Jimzz

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Oct 23, 2012 4,399 190 106 Only real differance is the Pentium has 300mhz more cpu speed and 50% more cache. If in the budget I would get the pentium. daveybrat

daveybrat

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Super Moderator Jan 31, 2000 5,774 992 126 The Celeron Ivy-Bridge G1610 will be just fine for web browsing and any general task. I've built 2 systems with them so far and they are very snappy and quick for the price. T

toronado455

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Sep 19, 2012 38 0 66
Jimzz said: Only real differance is the Pentium has 300mhz more cpu speed and 50% more cache. If in the budget I would get the pentium. Click to expand...
OK, that's what I thought. It's only $20 more, so it could be do-able, but might not matter for the application, and the $20 might be better spent elsewhere in the system. T

toronado455

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Sep 19, 2012 38 0 66
daveybrat said: The Celeron Ivy-Bridge G1610 will be just fine for web browsing and any general task. I've built 2 systems with them so far and they are very snappy and quick for the price. Click to expand...
Thanks, it seems like a great bargain for the money. Also, oddly, the PassMark CPU Mark scores are slightly favoring the Celeron, though probably just a statistical anomaly, and I wouldn't put too much faith in that. But it gives the impression that the advantage of the Pentium isn't going to be perceptible. StrangerGuy

StrangerGuy

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May 9, 2004 8,443 124 106 Any dual core SB/IB would be vastly overkill for those purpose. I

Insert_Nickname

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StrangerGuy said: Any dual core SB/IB would be vastly overkill for those purpose. Click to expand...
Possibly. A Celeron G465 (single core with HT) is just fine for basic web browsing. Just don't open a ton of flash heavy tabs... ;) Zap

Zap

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Oct 13, 1999 22,377 2 81
toronado455 said: For a basic machine for just eMail and web browsing only. Click to expand...
Meh. Save the $20 and put it into a small SSD. The computer will then feel more "appliance-like" to the user. ;) Ken g6

Ken g6

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Moderator Dec 11, 1999 16,441 4,270 75 If you're only doing web browsing and a little email, may I make a completely different suggestion? Since this is the CPUs forum, that's an NVIDIA® Tegra® 3 quad-core processor. ;) Or if you want to do a little more typing, how about a "Samsung Exynos 5 Dual Processor"? Jimzz

Jimzz

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Oct 23, 2012 4,399 190 106
toronado455 said: OK, that's what I thought. It's only $20 more, so it could be do-able, but might not matter for the application, and the $20 might be better spent elsewhere in the system. Click to expand...
Yea I would take a G1610 with a SSD over the G2020 and reg platter hard drive. T

toronado455

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Sep 19, 2012 38 0 66 Thanks. I'm now no longer considering the G2020. Instead, I'm considering the G2120. Advantages of G2120 over G1610: --------------------------------- 3.1 GHz vs 2.6 GHz 3 MB Cache vs 2 MB Cache supports 1600 RAM vs 1333 RAM Also the G2120 has embedded options, but I doubt that would matter for me. Current pricing where I would likely buy this $35 for the G1610 and $70 for the G2120. So the Pentium is exactly double the price of the Celeron. My question is, are the advantages of the G2120, namely faster clock, more cache, and supporting faster RAM, worth it? Edit: CPU Mark on the G2120 is 2938, the G1610 CPU Mark is 2657. Last edited: Mar 13, 2013 H

Homeles

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Dec 9, 2011 2,580 0 0 For email and web browsing? You'll do fine on the $35 chip. T

toronado455

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Sep 19, 2012 38 0 66
Homeles said: For email and web browsing? You'll do fine on the $35 chip. Click to expand...
That's true. Though if the system gets re-purposed later on as a file server, NAS box, or something else, might it make a difference? ElFenix

ElFenix

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Super Moderator Mar 20, 2000 102,372 8,497 126
toronado455 said: That's true. Though if the system gets re-purposed later on as a file server, NAS box, or something else, might it make a difference? Click to expand...
if it's file serving or nas box, no. neither of those is processor heavy. Magic Carpet

Magic Carpet

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Oct 2, 2011 3,477 233 106
StrangerGuy said: Any dual core SB/IB would be vastly overkill for those purpose. Click to expand...
Agreed. I was browsing on a P4 631 rig and it was just fine except for 720/1080 YouTube video. Flash games would have struggled too. Anything faster a Conroe is fine. Just avoid Atom. StrangerGuy

StrangerGuy

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May 9, 2004 8,443 124 106
Magic Carpet said: Agreed. I was browsing on a P4 631 rig and it was just fine except for 720/1080 YouTube video. Flash games would have struggled too. Anything faster a Conroe is fine. Just avoid Atom. Click to expand...
Heh, you should see my boss 1.8GHz XP Sempron box with tech that dates back to 2002 and still using it now. She is one of those who refuses to upgrade out of fear of breaking something in her computing environment, I kid you not. ShintaiDK

ShintaiDK

Lifer
Apr 22, 2012 20,378 145 106 Since this thread, the G2020 is replaced by the G2030. 100Mhz more, same price. sm625

sm625

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May 6, 2011 8,172 137 106 For not much more than $35 you can get a used Intel X25V SSD. I picked one up for $32 shipped a few weeks ago. And for just a little more you can get a X25M. Both of these drives work wonders for a surfing facebook type machine. X25V isnt all that fast for an SSd, but the very fast random accesses make it seem faster than it is. These drives would bring much more tangible results than the those you get from the next higher grade cpu. And the best part is you need not bother with a HDD at all if you store large media elsewhere. Magic Carpet

Magic Carpet

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Oct 2, 2011 3,477 233 106
StrangerGuy said: Heh, you should see my boss 1.8GHz XP Sempron box with tech that dates back to 2002 and still using it now. She is one of those who refuses to upgrade out of fear of breaking something in her computing environment, I kid you not. Click to expand...
As long as it works and gets the job done, it's fine. You get used to speed. Fast or slow, it's a relative thing. That's how they think anyway. When XP was out in 2001, it was super slow for the most people, as hardware was still expensive (many preferred the less cluttered WinNT; many had only ~128 megs of ram, and XP needed at least 384mb to run speedy). Nowadays, you can easily max out Windows 8 with a $400 budget. Good times to experience, actually. Last edited: Mar 13, 2013 H

Hubb1e

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Aug 25, 2011 396 0 71 Both CPUs are in the same performance ballpark so when one starts to feel slow, both will start to feel slow. Casual users don't really notice when something is 10% slower so it really won't matter either way. When dual core Ivy bridge CPUs start to get overwhelmed by web browsing, you'll need 100% more performance or more for an upgrade, not a few extra mhz. I'd personally get a Pentium at around 3ghz but that's only because I like a little extra speed and the extra few dollars really isn't much of an issue for me, but in general a casual user would have a very tough time telling a difference between the two. You must log in or register to reply here. Share: Facebook X (Twitter) Reddit Tumblr WhatsApp Email Share Link

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