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User avatar lilcliffy Posts: 4383 Joined: Thu Jan 01, 2015 6:20 pm Location: Stanley, New Brunswick, Canada Ski style: backcountry Nordic ski touring Favorite Skis: Asnes Ingstad, Combat NATO, Amundsen, Rabb 68; Fischer S-Bound 98; Altai Kom Favorite boots: Alpina Alaska BC; Alfa Skaget XP; Lundhags Expedition; Scarpa T4 Occupation: Forestry Professional; educatorhusband, father, farmer and logger

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Post by lilcliffy » Thu Dec 21, 2017 2:39 pm

Anyone skiing on the G3 FINDr XCD skis? https://ca-store.genuineguidegear.com/collections/skis As a Canadian and a skier- I am very interested in G3 skis- a Canadian company from Vancouver. As I haven't skied in the Western Mountains since 1999- I haven't seriously considered them... That is- until I started thinking about a replacement steep and deep XCD ski...And- began to consider a ski as big as Voile's Vector BC for Nordic touring-for-turns.... Check out the price and specs: G3 FINDr 94 XCD 172cm price: $570CAN sidecut: 126-94-113mm weight: 2.96kg made in CAN Voile UltraVector 171cm price: $900CAN sidecut: 127-94-111mm weight: 2.81kg made in USA Altai Kom 174cm price: $450CAN sidecut: 124-98-119mm weight: 2.85kg* made in CAN *This is the weight of the 162cm Kom. Anybody considering an UltraVector BC should seriously look at the G3 FINDr 94 XCD. Also comes in 86mm and 78mm waist versions... Nice. Cross-country AND down-hill skiing in the backcountry. Unashamed to be a "cross-country type" and love skiing down-hill. Top User avatar Bri7 Posts: 300 Joined: Thu Jan 02, 2014 4:23 pm

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Post by Bri7 » Thu Dec 21, 2017 6:12 pm

Never tried them but I get tempted by they predecessor every once in a while when I shop here: https://www.sierratradingpost.com/g3-st ... ~d~9694%2F Top User avatar lilcliffy Posts: 4383 Joined: Thu Jan 01, 2015 6:20 pm Location: Stanley, New Brunswick, Canada Ski style: backcountry Nordic ski touring Favorite Skis: Asnes Ingstad, Combat NATO, Amundsen, Rabb 68; Fischer S-Bound 98; Altai Kom Favorite boots: Alpina Alaska BC; Alfa Skaget XP; Lundhags Expedition; Scarpa T4 Occupation: Forestry Professional; educatorhusband, father, farmer and logger

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Post by lilcliffy » Thu Dec 21, 2017 9:55 pm

Sweet ski. A seriously upgraded Guide...Wonder how it compares in weight to the Guide and the S-Bound 112 and Rossi BC110? Last edited by lilcliffy on Fri Dec 22, 2017 5:40 pm, edited 1 time in total. Cross-country AND down-hill skiing in the backcountry. Unashamed to be a "cross-country type" and love skiing down-hill. Top User avatar lilcliffy Posts: 4383 Joined: Thu Jan 01, 2015 6:20 pm Location: Stanley, New Brunswick, Canada Ski style: backcountry Nordic ski touring Favorite Skis: Asnes Ingstad, Combat NATO, Amundsen, Rabb 68; Fischer S-Bound 98; Altai Kom Favorite boots: Alpina Alaska BC; Alfa Skaget XP; Lundhags Expedition; Scarpa T4 Occupation: Forestry Professional; educatorhusband, father, farmer and logger

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Post by lilcliffy » Thu Dec 21, 2017 10:02 pm

177cm G3 FINDr 78 XCD: 2.8kg 185cm Madshus Annum: 2.6kg 179cm Fischer S-Bound 112: 2.7kg 179cm Rossignol BC110: 2.7kg 178cm Voile Objective BC: 2.3kg Cross-country AND down-hill skiing in the backcountry. Unashamed to be a "cross-country type" and love skiing down-hill. Top User avatar Harris Posts: 331 Joined: Wed Feb 24, 2016 4:08 pm

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Post by Harris » Fri Dec 22, 2017 12:31 am

You should seriously look at the K2 Pinnacle 95's. At 184 cm they are only 1.85 kg, much lighter than any BC ski mentioned above, and are 132/95/115. Wet, light, deep, firm, groom, chop, crud and slush they're a pretty badass ski. Rocker tips and single camber. Slight rocker tail. I ski the 177cm and love them. Turn radius is 15m. Mount alpine boot center with 22 Designs Axle bindings. Skin great. They just might be the perfect do-all Wet Coast tele ski. With all the "all mountain skis" out there these days, pure backcountry skis are a thing of the past. Not even sure why they sell "BC" skis anymore. Marketing nomenclature I guess attracts some, but the engineering development favors the do-all skis today. The Rossi Soul 7 is also an excellent tele ski. Top User avatar lowangle al Posts: 2830 Joined: Sat Jan 11, 2014 3:36 pm Location: Pocono Mts / Chugach Mts Ski style: BC with focus on downhill perfection Favorite Skis: powder skis Favorite boots: Scarpa T4 Occupation: Retired cement mason. Current job is to take my recreation as serious as I did my past employment.

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Post by lowangle al » Fri Dec 22, 2017 10:43 am

Harris wrote:You should seriously look at the K2 Pinnacle 95's. At 184 cm they are only 1.85 kg, much lighter than any BC ski mentioned above, and are 132/95/115. Wet, light, deep, firm, groom, chop, crud and slush they're a pretty badass ski. Rocker tips and single camber. Slight rocker tail. I ski the 177cm and love them. Turn radius is 15m. Mount alpine boot center with 22 Designs Axle bindings. Skin great. They just might be the perfect do-all Wet Coast tele ski. With all the "all mountain skis" out there these days, pure backcountry skis are a thing of the past. Not even sure why they sell "BC" skis anymore. Marketing nomenclature I guess attracts some, but the engineering development favors the do-all skis today. The Rossi Soul 7 is also an excellent tele ski.
Are the K2s waxless? With Voile anyway the BC indicates it's waxless. Top User avatar lilcliffy Posts: 4383 Joined: Thu Jan 01, 2015 6:20 pm Location: Stanley, New Brunswick, Canada Ski style: backcountry Nordic ski touring Favorite Skis: Asnes Ingstad, Combat NATO, Amundsen, Rabb 68; Fischer S-Bound 98; Altai Kom Favorite boots: Alpina Alaska BC; Alfa Skaget XP; Lundhags Expedition; Scarpa T4 Occupation: Forestry Professional; educatorhusband, father, farmer and logger

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Post by lilcliffy » Fri Dec 22, 2017 5:45 pm

lilcliffy wrote: 179cm Fischer S-Bound 112: 2.7kg 179cm Rossignol BC110: 2.7kg
Starting to be suspicious that the current BC110 might be a "cheaper" version of the S-Bound 112... If I ignore the topsheet- it sure has hell feels like and S-Bound 112- and one would need a micrometer to measure the difference in width... Perhaps the BC90 and Excursion 88 are not the only skis made in the same factory? The discontinued BC68 was an older version of the E-99 made in the same factory with a cheaper base... Cross-country AND down-hill skiing in the backcountry. Unashamed to be a "cross-country type" and love skiing down-hill. Top User avatar lilcliffy Posts: 4383 Joined: Thu Jan 01, 2015 6:20 pm Location: Stanley, New Brunswick, Canada Ski style: backcountry Nordic ski touring Favorite Skis: Asnes Ingstad, Combat NATO, Amundsen, Rabb 68; Fischer S-Bound 98; Altai Kom Favorite boots: Alpina Alaska BC; Alfa Skaget XP; Lundhags Expedition; Scarpa T4 Occupation: Forestry Professional; educatorhusband, father, farmer and logger

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Post by lilcliffy » Fri Dec 22, 2017 5:50 pm

Harris wrote:You should seriously look at the K2 Pinnacle 95's. At 184 cm they are only 1.85 kg, much lighter than any BC ski mentioned above, and are 132/95/115. Wet, light, deep, firm, groom, chop, crud and slush they're a pretty badass ski. Rocker tips and single camber. Slight rocker tail. I ski the 177cm and love them. Turn radius is 15m. Mount alpine boot center with 22 Designs Axle bindings. Skin great. They just might be the perfect do-all Wet Coast tele ski. With all the "all mountain skis" out there these days, pure backcountry skis are a thing of the past. Not even sure why they sell "BC" skis anymore. Marketing nomenclature I guess attracts some, but the engineering development favors the do-all skis today. The Rossi Soul 7 is also an excellent tele ski.
I would consider them- but at this point in my ski touring I am primarily interested in waxless-scaled bases or the integrated kicker skins from Asnes and Fischer. Thanks for the suggestion on the Pinnacle though- I would definitely consider it if I was skiing in the western mountains. Isn't that 1.85g per ski- 3.7kg per pair? The weights I posted above are per pair... https://ca.k2skis.com/en/skis/pinnacle-95-1718.html Cross-country AND down-hill skiing in the backcountry. Unashamed to be a "cross-country type" and love skiing down-hill. Top User avatar lilcliffy Posts: 4383 Joined: Thu Jan 01, 2015 6:20 pm Location: Stanley, New Brunswick, Canada Ski style: backcountry Nordic ski touring Favorite Skis: Asnes Ingstad, Combat NATO, Amundsen, Rabb 68; Fischer S-Bound 98; Altai Kom Favorite boots: Alpina Alaska BC; Alfa Skaget XP; Lundhags Expedition; Scarpa T4 Occupation: Forestry Professional; educatorhusband, father, farmer and logger

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Post by lilcliffy » Fri Dec 22, 2017 5:52 pm

lowangle al wrote: Are the K2s waxless? With Voile anyway the BC indicates it's waxless.
No- that's why I was comparing the FINDr XCDs with other touring skis that have scaled bases. Cross-country AND down-hill skiing in the backcountry. Unashamed to be a "cross-country type" and love skiing down-hill. Top User avatar lilcliffy Posts: 4383 Joined: Thu Jan 01, 2015 6:20 pm Location: Stanley, New Brunswick, Canada Ski style: backcountry Nordic ski touring Favorite Skis: Asnes Ingstad, Combat NATO, Amundsen, Rabb 68; Fischer S-Bound 98; Altai Kom Favorite boots: Alpina Alaska BC; Alfa Skaget XP; Lundhags Expedition; Scarpa T4 Occupation: Forestry Professional; educatorhusband, father, farmer and logger

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Post by lilcliffy » Fri Dec 22, 2017 5:59 pm

lilcliffy wrote: G3 FINDr 94 XCD 172cm price: $570CAN sidecut: 126-94-113mm weight: 2.96kg made in CAN Voile UltraVector 171cm price: $900CAN sidecut: 127-94-111mm weight: 2.81kg made in USA Altai Kom 174cm price: $450CAN sidecut: 124-98-119mm weight: 2.85kg* made in CAN
In addition- because it has the integrated kicker skin- instead of scales- the Asnes Eggi 98: Asnes Eggi 98 176cm price: $~900CAN sidecut: 128-98-115mm weight: 2.9kg made in SWE Cross-country AND down-hill skiing in the backcountry. Unashamed to be a "cross-country type" and love skiing down-hill. Top Post Reply
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