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• Start date Start date Feb 25, 2016

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co4wheel

Joined Feb 7, 2016 Threads 30 Messages 489 Location Colorado Springs, CO. I have a 470 on the way. 2006, 81K miles. I have not paid but it's on the way anyway. It arrives in a couple days. No obligation to buy it. Then today a 2010 shows up with 95,000 on it for $7500 more. I Kinda prefer the classic style of the 470. I know the basics about the 460 but not a lot about the type of air suspension, etc. I basically want a comfortable SUV for explore back country 4wd roads her in Colorado. I would never lift it more then 2" or so. Is the 2010 worth it? It's more money and more miles. I don't want a nightmare in repairs and the 470 seems more basic and the 460 more complicated. Am I just biased.

Jacket

Moderator 10 Year 15 Year Joined May 25, 2007 Threads 33 Messages 1,319 Location Boulder, Colorado The base package with the GX460 does not include any suspension leveling features, so you've got a basic spring and shock setup. It may have been an option on some base packages, and then KDSS is standard on the premium and luxury packages. It's hard to say if its worth it for you and your needs. The 2010 will have more electronics, which can be good for things like maps, bluetooth, and music, but maybe bad for troubleshooting issues? The 4.6L engine has more HP and will be more responsive. The 460 will have a more modern interior, and maybe feel a bit more spacious. Seats that both heat and cool. The 470 has a more classic build for an SUV, with more parts accessibility across the 4Runner, Tundra, LC and GX. Shift into 4Lo instead of push button. Likely better approach and departure angles (needs verification). And maybe you'd be less worried about "using" your 470 and getting a scratch or two on it vs. the 460? There's nothing yet that's demonstrated the 460 has quality issues, but at the same time it's not been tested much past daily driver duties. The one issue I've seen a pattern on is the secondary air pump failures - pretty easy fix though and probably something I'd do proactively with 95k on the clock. - Matt 1976 FJ40 - Green 1996 FZJ80 - two-toned goodness 2013 URJ150

co4wheel

Joined Feb 7, 2016 Threads 30 Messages 489 Location Colorado Springs, CO. Thanks. The 460 was weird. The seat leather was HORRIBLE. Never seen a older Lexus with Leather that bad. It was perforated. I think that causes it to not wear as well. I will stay with 09 and older I think. T

TRD83

10 Year Joined Apr 27, 2014 Threads 3 Messages 52 Interesting point about the seat leather. Even conditioning the leather regularly I will say I don't expect the outside bolster (on the lower/ flat portion of drivers seat) to last forever. It seems like the foam that provides the shape deforms then will eventually cause issues. I've been keeping an eye out for a good deal on a replacement lower seat cover from Lexus just to keep on hand, but clearly those deals are far and few between. Was there any areas that wore worse than others on the vehicle you saw? '10 GX460 Doninsons Springs - Koni - Airlift bags - Spidertrax spacers - 265/65R18 Kaymar rear bar - TJM Steps - Road Safe recovery points - Rhino Rack Backbone and Platform S

salong53

10 Year Joined Feb 14, 2015 Threads 3 Messages 11 Location Knoxville, TN Does the 470 have nav? If yes, I personally wouldn't buy it because of the outdated maps and archaic functionality that can't be replaced. O

onemanarmy

10 Year 15 Year Joined Apr 26, 2010 Threads 62 Messages 5,784 Location Raleigh, NC Such a shame that people would overlook a great dependable vehicle platform because automakers decided it was OK to burden cars with computers and touchscreens. Don't then know that tech like that becomes obsolete in a few years? 1990 FJ62 5.3/H55 77 FJ55 www.buzzfishclothing.com sell your car for free!

vwluv10338

10 Year 15 Year Joined Nov 14, 2010 Threads 28 Messages 568 Location Annapolis MD USA Go with a 470. I would never buy a 460. The 4.7L is bullet proof where the 4.6l is full of problems. $2k for clogged air injection pumps, no thanks. My 2H rebuild

Jacket

Moderator 10 Year 15 Year Joined May 25, 2007 Threads 33 Messages 1,319 Location Boulder, Colorado

vwluv10338 said: Go with a 470. I would never buy a 460. The 4.7L is bullet proof where the 4.6l is full of problems. $2k for clogged air injection pumps, no thanks. Click to expand...

"Full of problems"? Not really. - Matt 1976 FJ40 - Green 1996 FZJ80 - two-toned goodness 2013 URJ150

vwluv10338

10 Year 15 Year Joined Nov 14, 2010 Threads 28 Messages 568 Location Annapolis MD USA

Jacket said: "Full of problems"? Not really. Click to expand...

More than the 4.7. I have had to replace way too many air pumps, air valves, egr pumps, egr solenoids to buy an engine knowing that one day it will need $2000 of work around the 100k mile mark. Not including leaking front engine covers but those are far less common. My 2H rebuild

Jacket

Moderator 10 Year 15 Year Joined May 25, 2007 Threads 33 Messages 1,319 Location Boulder, Colorado Air pumps are clearly not Toyota's strongsuit on any of the V8's. http://www.tundraheadquarters.com/blog/tundra-sequoia-air-injection-induction-pump/Tundra and Sequoia $4000 Air Injection System Problem - Matt 1976 FJ40 - Green 1996 FZJ80 - two-toned goodness 2013 URJ150

NMBruce

SILVER Star 10 Year 15 Year Joined Dec 4, 2010 Threads 54 Messages 1,424 Location Pagosa Springs Colorado With the 4.7L (not sure about the 4.6L) you can buy a by-pass kit for the secondly air pump as long as you don't already have the problem. CUBS WIN, CUBS WIN, HOLY COW CUBS WIN Coop. (NMBruce) 2020 Quicksand Tacoma TRD OR KE0NBD I knew I shoulda taken that left turn at Albuquerque! - Bugs Bunny

co4wheel

Joined Feb 7, 2016 Threads 30 Messages 489 Location Colorado Springs, CO.

coops2k said: With the 4.7L (not sure about the 4.6L) you can buy a by-pass kit for the secondly air pump as long as you don't already have the problem. Click to expand...

Can you add it after you get the problem. Or does that cause issues.

NMBruce

SILVER Star 10 Year 15 Year Joined Dec 4, 2010 Threads 54 Messages 1,424 Location Pagosa Springs Colorado not sure, there is information out there about it. I never had a problem, but I have already added the by-pass CUBS WIN, CUBS WIN, HOLY COW CUBS WIN Coop. (NMBruce) 2020 Quicksand Tacoma TRD OR KE0NBD I knew I shoulda taken that left turn at Albuquerque! - Bugs Bunny C

clearmysix

Joined Jun 10, 2016 Threads 12 Messages 143 Location San Diego, CA I am sure the person who started this thread has already decided on a vehicle, but I also debated this and went with a GX460. GX460 benefits: 1. Base model with standard suspension. Easier to upgrade and change out. 2. KDSS standard. No need to search around for a GX470 with KDSS. 3. Aux input and bluetooth. I know this sounds dumb, but given that you cannot upgrade the head unit of the GX470 makes this important 4. All the new safety features. Better for the wife and kids 5. AC seats standard. If you live in a warm climate you will love this feature 6. More HP and 6 speed transmission. Better MPG and more range. 7. Back window opens separately from door GX470 benefits: 1. Cheaper, much cheaper 2. Larger community building these, many more aftermarket parts (I think this is pretty important) You must log in or register to reply here. Share: Facebook X Bluesky LinkedIn Reddit Pinterest Tumblr WhatsApp Email Share Link

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