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How Does S35VN Compare to CTS BD1N?

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Post by WoolyFav32 » Mon Mar 29, 2021 8:26 pm

How does the WE Banter's CPM-S35VN blade steel compare to the Spyderco's Para 3 lightweight's CTS-BD1N in terms of edge retention, toughness, corrosion resistance, etc.? Top User avatar sal Member Posts: 17261 Joined: Fri Sep 24, 2004 12:00 pm Location: Golden, Colorado USA

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Post by sal » Tue Mar 30, 2021 2:27 am

Hi WoolyFav, Welcome go our forum. sal Top User avatar M Sea Member Posts: 1293 Joined: Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:20 am Location: Margaritaville

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Post by M Sea » Tue Mar 30, 2021 2:52 am

WoolyFav32 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 29, 2021 8:26 pm How does the WE Banter's CPM-S35VN blade steel compare to the Spyderco's Para 3 lightweight's CTS-BD1N in terms of edge retention, toughness, corrosion resistance, etc.?
Welcome to the forum, I have both knives and the blade steels feel very similar. I live in an extremely humid/salty environment and both steels have done fine. The BD1N is easier to sharpen but up to this point, thats really the only difference as far as I can tell. Both knives are excellent. Top User avatar Doc Dan Member Posts: 15463 Joined: Thu Nov 08, 2012 4:25 am Location: In a dimension as vast as space and as timeless as infinity.

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Post by Doc Dan » Tue Mar 30, 2021 8:36 am

I'd say the S35VN holds an edge longer in general, but the BD1N is a lot easier to sharpen very sharp. It holds an edge well enough. Of course, it all depends on the edge angel because it could out perform a knife in S35VN if it were thinner at the edge. I Pray Heaven to Bestow The Best of Blessing on THIS HOUSE, and on ALL that shall hereafter Inhabit it. May none but Honest and Wise Men ever rule under This Roof! (John Adams regarding the White House) Follow the Christ, the King, Live pure, speak true, right wrong, follow the King-- Else, wherefore born?" (Tennyson) NRA Life Member Spydernation 0050 Top User avatar dj moonbat Member Posts: 1493 Joined: Sat Mar 27, 2010 11:58 am Location: Sunny SoCal

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Post by dj moonbat » Tue Mar 30, 2021 8:44 am

IIRC, Spyderco isn't heat treating the BD1N much harder than s35vn. But my kitchen knives are BD1N @ 62 or 63, which is a hardness I don't think s35vn can achieve. Top User avatar kennethsime Member Posts: 4870 Joined: Thu Dec 29, 2011 8:28 pm Location: California

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Post by kennethsime » Tue Mar 30, 2021 10:05 am

One resource I stumbled upon the other day is the Spyderco Steel Chart. Using this interactive chart, you can compare S35VN and BD1N. Based largely on the 3% vanadium, I would expect S35VN to out-cut BD1N, all other things being equal. I would expect BD1N to be a bit tougher, and a bit more stainless, and generally be a more balanced EDC steel. Both are fine steels, but S35VN is generally considered the higher-end steel. Of course, there are other variables at play, like how was the steel heat treated and sharpened - both the heat treat and the edge geometry are going to effect how the steel performs. Then you've got a few other things to consider, when comparing those two knives. The Para 3 has a one-hand opening hole, a 50/50 choil for fine detail work, a full flat ground blade for easy slicing, a bit more blade length, and a compression lock for secure locking & easy release. If you like the Para 3 LW and want a higher-end steel, you might consider this KnifeJoy exclusive in CPM 20CV. 20CV is similar to another steel you may have heard of, M390, and represents a very fine balance of wear resistance, toughness, and corrosion resistance. I'm happiest with Micarta and Tool Steel. Top four in rotation: K390 + GCM PM2, ZCarta Shaman, Crucarta PM2, K390 + GCM Straight Spine Stretch. Top User avatar M Sea Member Posts: 1293 Joined: Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:20 am Location: Margaritaville

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Post by M Sea » Tue Mar 30, 2021 10:26 am

kennethsime wrote: ↑Tue Mar 30, 2021 10:05 am One resource I stumbled upon the other day is the Spyderco Steel Chart. Using this interactive chart, you can compare S35VN and BD1N. Based largely on the 3% vanadium, I would expect S35VN to out-cut BD1N, all other things being equal. I would expect BD1N to be a bit tougher, and a bit more stainless, and generally be a more balanced EDC steel. Both are fine steels, but S35VN is generally considered the higher-end steel. Of course, there are other variables at play, like how was the steel heat treated and sharpened - both the heat treat and the edge geometry are going to effect how the steel performs. Then you've got a few other things to consider, when comparing those two knives. The Para 3 has a one-hand opening hole, a 50/50 choil for fine detail work, a full flat ground blade for easy slicing, a bit more blade length, and a compression lock for secure locking & easy release. If you like the Para 3 LW and want a higher-end steel, you might consider this KnifeJoy exclusive in CPM 20CV. 20CV is similar to another steel you may have heard of, M390, and represents a very fine balance of wear resistance, toughness, and corrosion resistance.
Thank you for the Spyderco Steel Chart link, very cool. Top Post Reply
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