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HQ vs. A&E ?

• Thread starter JudiNH
• Start date 11/9/11

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JudiNH

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Celebirdy of the Month Joined 10/27/09 Messages 1,781 Location NH Real Name Judi Does anyone know if there is any quality difference between the HQ & the A&E flight cages? They look pretty similar except that the HQ has two doors and the A&E has only one door, in front. Any other differences? Im thinking that the one door may make it difficult to reach in and hang toys from the top...is that true? But the two doors could be a pain, switching back and forth between them when you reach in to take your bird out, if the bird is moving around. Thoughts? thanks... Im thinking of upgrading my tiels cage. They are currently in this, but Im wondering if maybe they need something a little bit bigger...? Judi N

Nikki

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Joined 10/16/09 Messages 10,927 Location South Florida Real Name Nikki I have an HQ flight and I love it...I love HQ cages hands down over A&E. I have one A&E cage and it is junk compared to my HQ cages.

lotus15

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Avenue Veteran Celebirdy of the Month Mayor of the Avenue Avenue Spotlight Award Joined 3/23/10 Messages 11,517 Location Bay Area Real Name Coco I have heard much better things about the HQ ones... especially the doors Coco and Lola Check out my blog, Coco's Flock: http://cocosflock.wordpress.com/

April

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Avenue Veteran Celebirdy of the Month Mayor of the Avenue Avenue Spotlight Award Joined 3/21/10 Messages 25,635 I have a HQ for Nala,and I could'nt imagine having only one door to work with. Forever loved & missed Nala 1/21/18 & Zazu 8/23/21 ​

JudiNH

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Celebirdy of the Month Joined 10/27/09 Messages 1,781 Location NH Real Name Judi Thank you. That is really helpful!

MaximotheMacaw

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Avenue Veteran Joined 11/15/10 Messages 830 Real Name Nicolette Yeah I have heard lots of good reviews on the HQ over A&E.

Bokkapooh

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Avenue Veteran Avenue Spotlight Award Joined 10/18/09 Messages 25,464 Location Pacific Northwest Real Name Mercedez I prefer A&E cages over HQ any day, especially the larger cages. The wheels are larger to support the weight of the cage on A&E cages. My HQ double macaw cage rests on its legs not its wheels because of the tiny wheels not supporting the weight. The locking on the new A&E cages food dish doors I really like, not sure if HQ has that or not. But it prevents big birds from escaping out of their food dish doors! Love it Overall, the new design of A&E larger parrot cages is much better IME, than the HQ. I have the A&E flight cage too and its nice, but its very similar to the HQ flight cage. So I think for smaller bird cages like Flight cages, either company is fine. and (Beeba)

JudiNH

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Celebirdy of the Month Joined 10/27/09 Messages 1,781 Location NH Real Name Judi Thats good to know. Thanks.

Bokkapooh

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Avenue Veteran Avenue Spotlight Award Joined 10/18/09 Messages 25,464 Location Pacific Northwest Real Name Mercedez What are the dimensions on the cage currently for your tiels? It looks like a nice size cage

andor

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Mayor of the Avenue Joined 1/25/11 Messages 3,079 Location Providence, RI Real Name Matt The new (February) cage Jude is in is an A&E and I like it a lot. Great door & feeder locks. It is this one, but in a sandstone powder coat: A&E Split Level 42 x26 w/Divider *Stainless Steel* - PLAYTOP CAGES by MY SAFE BIRD STORE Oscar's in a 5 year old HQ 24x24. Oscar can escape out the breeder box door unless it is closed with a chain. The wheels cannot roll, they just drag (???). The powder coat is very thick, but it is overly textured and difficult to clean (not like the perfectly smooth texture of an Avian Adventures powder coat). There's also little bars unwelded (not snapped, they were never welded there by design) between the grate and bottom tray that poke me whenever I clean. This is an older cage and these design flaws may have been corrected with new cages. Not a fair comparison between that and a new cage, but I do prefer the A&E we have over the HQ we have.

SkyBaby

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Avenue Veteran Joined 11/17/09 Messages 569 Location Tehachapi, CA Real Name Kira I have the HQ 13221 flight cage. My ringies can escape out of the breeder doors as those are not locking. I keep them closed with ss quick links attached on the outside. Very small issue IMO, once it's resolved with a couple SS quicklinks, you're pretty much good to go. I really like the cage over all. It's easy to clean, high quality and feels sturdy, plus the price is right. Nice big, sturdy, high quality cage for $130 (when I bought mine 4 years ago. It's more than that now, but cheaper than most other cages). I don't see how 1 big door would work for me and my guys. 2 smaller ones are really much easier. I don't have any experience with the AE version.

andor

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Mayor of the Avenue Joined 1/25/11 Messages 3,079 Location Providence, RI Real Name Matt I guess Oscar's cage is actually 24x22, as it is this one (but in black and without the horribly pasted Goffin clipart ) : HQ Pet Cages - Medium Cages/8002422 Still looks like the same exact design. The "floating pokies of death" are still there underneath the seed guards.

JudiNH

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Celebirdy of the Month Joined 10/27/09 Messages 1,781 Location NH Real Name Judi

Mercedez said: What are the dimensions on the cage currently for your tiels? It looks like a nice size cage Click to expand...

It is 30x18x24. So, I wouldnt gain much in width, slightly more in depth, but a lot more in height. But, do they really need that much height? They seem to hang out at the top all the time anyway. Im thinking maybe I will just stick with what I have for now. Not a super high quality cage, but for tiels who are gentle and non destructive, its probably fine. Thanks for the input everyone.

JudiNH

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Celebirdy of the Month Joined 10/27/09 Messages 1,781 Location NH Real Name Judi

andor said: I guess Oscar's cage is actually 24x22, as it is this one (but in black and without the horribly pasted Goffin clipart ) : HQ Pet Cages - Medium Cages/8002422 Still looks like the same exact design. The "floating pokies of death" are still there underneath the seed guards. Click to expand...

Wow, thanks for the caution. Those pokies dont sound safe at all!

andor

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Mayor of the Avenue Joined 1/25/11 Messages 3,079 Location Providence, RI Real Name Matt

JudiNH said: Wow, thanks for the caution. Those pokies dont sound safe at all! Click to expand...

It won't be a problem if you use the grate & tray in that particular model. You can't put the tray on the grate holder, though (just wont fit) so I worry about a bird getting to the lower "compartment". I'll take a pic when I get home. L

LittleGems

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Joined 5/5/10 Messages 1,027 I have an HQ flight and several A&E flights. They are all good cages, but I prefer the single door on the A&E cages

suileeka

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Avenue Veteran Avenue Spotlight Award Joined 12/6/10 Messages 4,743 Location New Jersey Real Name Lindsay If it's HQ Flight Cage vs A&E Flight Cage, I prefer the HQ by a billion times. It's difficult to explain, but the way the bars are welded to the frame is much easier to clean on the HQ. MY A&E double flight is always getting poop stuck in the crevices and it's nearly impossible to clean. My birds prefer the double doors on the HQ, as do I. | Sampson | Dorian | Cian | Pekoe | Coco | Captain | Freyja & Pippin Missing you always . . . Giacomo, Basil, Smooches, Pepper, Dale, Paisley, Piper, Lior, Clementine​

Naiera

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Joined 9/7/11 Messages 1,505 Location Oregon, USA Real Name Alyssa I'm debating between the small AE flight cage and HQ flight cage too. Is anyone able to post pictures of the feeder doors and/or breeder doors (do they have feeder doors? I'm not certain about this)? Any other pictures that might be good for comparison would really be appreciated. At first I was pretty set on the AE flight cage, but now I'm not so sure ​

fidsmom

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Avenue Veteran Joined 2/22/11 Messages 1,955 Location Canada Real Name Susan I have 2 of these cages, for my Quakers They are not HQ or AE cages, but Kings cages, there is 1 Quaker in each cage, My other 2 Quakers are in other kind of cages. theres 2 doors, and 2 breeder doors ( at the sides, but I put a twist tie, on both doors, as no nest boxes to use. The cages are 32 wide X62 highx 22 depth. I like for my fids to have alot of space in their cages, for perches and plenty of toys.

suileeka

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Avenue Veteran Avenue Spotlight Award Joined 12/6/10 Messages 4,743 Location New Jersey Real Name Lindsay The breeder doors are identical on the HQ and A&E flight cages. I will note that I have to zip tie them shut on the A&E cage, because they are so loose they won't stay shut otherwise, and don't have to with the HQ cages.

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