IMMOBILIZER - VW POLO

Sunday, January 24, 2016

IMMOBILIZER

VW, AUDI, SKODA & SEAT IMMOBILIZER PROBLEMS

The worst thing that can ever happen to you especially when you're in a hurry to get to an appointment on time, is to turn-on your car's ignition key and see a yellow immobilizer symbol (car with a key below it) flashing in your instrument cluster accompanied by a fairly loud ear piecing audible signal. When you witness this, your car isn't going to go anywhere and neither are you. I suppose there are worst scenarios you could be in like when you stop along a dark and lonely road at night, compelled to take a pee, only to return to your car, to be met by the yellow flashing immobilizer symbol. There are so many VAG Vehicle owners who have experienced some sort of immobilizer problem with their cars and those drivers who haven't, I'm so sorry to say, but its only a matter of time before you do. That sounds very pessimistic, but once again, I'm sorry to say but that's the reality of the situation. It is what it is.
The dreaded Immobilizer symbol
Looking through my database of immobilizer issues, some of which I have shared with you below, gives you a fair idea of what can be expected from your VAG vehicle in the future. VW, Seat, Skoda and Audi vehicles comes out with a various versions of theft deterrent software systems, starting with vehicles without an Immobilizer (Pre 1995), to Immobilizer I (Immo I - 1996), to Immobilizer II (Immo II - 2002+), to Immobilizer III (Immo III) aka Transponder III, to Immobilizer IV (Immo IV) and the 5th generation Immobilizer (Immo V - 2011). There are also various Immobilizer hardware integrated into the instrument cluster, two of which are (J285 & J334 Immobilizer Control Module) and (J285 & J362 Immobilizer Control Module). Not to state the obvious, VAG cars are equipped with Anti-Theft Engine Disable immobilizers to circumvent theft; and should a car thief swap-out an ECU without matching it to instrument cluster, the engine will start briefly then die and this will be repeated indefinitely.
AUDI, SEAT, SKODA and VW AVITARS
Since the implementation of Immo 3, variable code evaluation is use in both the engine control unit and Immobilizer control unit. They use an equation / algorithm that calculates the generated variable code that both control units must agree upon. So, if you ever start your car and it stalls after about 1 second, then its perfectly safe to suspect the Immobilizer as faulty whether it displays the immobilizer symbol or not. In such a case the DTC memory should be checked and, if necessary, the control module adapted. Whether or not the has Immobilizer disabled the ECU can be verified under address word 17, and or address word 25, using a scan tool like VCDS, ODIS, Launch, Autoboss, Autel MaxiDAS, etc. The data whether ON or OFF, sits in measuring block 007 under Central locking. Most importantly the DTC are the clues that's going to point you in the right direction.
ODIS is the latest VW, AUDI SEAT SKODA, BENTLEY, LAMBORGINI and PORSCHE Diagnostic Software.
So, when the ignition is switched ON, the Instrument cluster / Immobilizer Control Module enables or disables specific vehicle functions based on a hand shake. What this means is that when the switchblade key is pushed into the ignition lock, or placed in proximity of the coil transmitted radio signal, the instrument cluster electronics detects the key and initiates a data transfer between the pickup coil in the steering column or ignition switch and the RFID (Radio Frequency Identification) capsule embedded in the fob key. If the correct / unique identification number / authorized security data stream is received at the Immobilizer Control Module it permits the engine to start and idle uninhibited. But if it doesn't the car wont start.
RFID capsules are tiny, it stores data unique to your car and can be found inside your fob key.
The list below constitutes just a smatter of immobilizer errors that VAG car owners can experience, which range from a low fob key battery, to an instrument cluster or ECU replacement. And somewhere in between you will have, wiring harness issues ranging from intermittent to open circuit and even short circuit. Active RFID tags have their own power source whereas passive RFID tags used in all fob keys don't require power. Essentially they consist of a scanning antenna, a transceiver with a decoder to interpret the data and a transponder - the RFID tag - that has been pre-programmed with the relevant information specific to your VIN, ECU and Instrument cluster. A dry joint on the pickup coil inside the capsule can prevent the necessary hand shake thus its a good idea to have a second matched fob key available if the key that won't start the car is suspect. In the list below, you also find appropriate codings for Immobilizer Module address 25 and as can be clearly seen, different control modules have different ODX/ASAM datasets, different software versions and different .rod files. Before changing any codes, make certain that you have a printed copy of all existing codes.

Immobilizer DTCs, Immobilizer Errors, Immobilizer Problems & Codes

Address 25: Immobilizer Cannot be reached -------------------------------------------------- Address 25: Immobilizer unobtainable -------------------------------------------------- Address 25: Immobilizer DTCs not supported by controller or a communication error ocurred -------------------------------------------------- Address 25: Immobilizer 16897 - Incorrect Immobilizer code P0513 - 35-00 - Malfunction in Circuit 17978 - Motronic Engine Control Module (ECM) -J220- Electronically locked P1570 - 35-00 - Malfunction in Circuit -------------------------------------------------- Address 25: Immobilizer Part No: 6X0 953 257 Component: IMMO 0008 Coding: 00001 Excessive Comm Errors -------------------------------------------------- Address 25: Immobilizer Control unit: 6Y0 920 883 M Component: IMMOBILIZER VDO V04 Coding: 00102 -------------------------------------------------- Address 25: Immobilizer Part No: 6Q0 920 825 E Component: IMMOBILIZER VDO V06 Coding: 03144 01176 - Key 07-00 - Signal too Low -------------------------------------------------- Address 25: Immobilizer Part No SW: 1K0 920 874 JX HW: 1K0 920 874 JX Component: IMMO 3HL 2416 Revision: V0005000 Serial number: VWX7Z0G524F0LU 01176 - Key 008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent -------------------------------------------------- Address 25: Immobilizer Controller: 6H0 953 257 B Component: IMMO VWZ3Z0X1234088 V71 Coding: 09600 01176 - Key 65-10 - Unauthorized - Intermittent -------------------------------------------------- Address 25: Immobilizer Controller: 038 906 019 DQ Component: 1,9l R4 EDC 0000SG 1536 Coding: 00002 17978 - Engine Start Blocked by Immobilizer P1570 - 35-00 - Malfunction in Circuit 16989 - Internal Control Module: ROM Error P0605 - 35-00 - Implausible Signal -------------------------------------------------- Address 25: Immobilizer Controller: 4A0 953 234 F Component: IMMO AUZ9Z0T7884365 D77 Coding: 00000 01176 - Key 07-10 - Signal to Low - Intermittent 00750 - Warning Lamp 31-10 - Open or Short to Ground - Intermittent -------------------------------------------------- Address 25: Immobilizer Part No: 6L0 920 803 E Component: IMMOBILIZER AGD V05 Coding: 00105 01177 - Engine Control Unit 65-10 - Unauthorized - Intermittent -------------------------------------------------- Address 25: Immobilizer Part No: 6X0 953 257 Component: IMMO 0003 Coding: 00003 00750 - Warning Lamp 31-00 - Open or Short to Ground 01314 - Engine Control Module 49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent 01176 - Key 65-10 - Unauthorized - Intermittent -------------------------------------------------- Address 25: Immobilizer Part No: 4A0 953 234 Component: IMMO AUZ9Z0W5254731 D77 Coding: 00000 01176 - Key 07-10 - Signal too Low - Intermittent -------------------------------------------------- Address 25: Immobilizer Part No SW: 1T0 920 873 E HW: 1T0 920 873 E Component: IMMO VDD 3808 Revision: V0001000 Serial number: VWX7Z0G33ND1A0 00003 - Control Module 014 - Defective -------------------------------------------------- Address 25: Immobilizer Part No: 1H0 953 257 B Component: IMMO VWZ3Z0M2519376 V00 Coding: 09600 00546 - Data wiring faulty 27-00 - Implausible Signal -------------------------------------------------- Address 25: Immobilizer (J334) Part No SW: 5K0 953 234 HW: 5K0 953 234 Component: IMMO H03 0607 Serial number: 00000000000000 Coding: 000000 ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03009 ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09_SE36.rod 9456681 - Key B104C 29 [009] - Implausible Signal Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear -------------------------------------------------- Address 25: Immobilizer Part No: 1H0 953 257 B Component: IMMO VWZ3Z0E1731908 V00 Coding: 09600 00546 - Data wiring faulty 27-00 - Implausible Signal 01181 - Initializing; Only 2 Keys Learned 35-00 - Implausible Signal 01179 - Incorrect Key Programming 35-00 - Implausible Signal -------------------------------------------------- Address 25: Immobilizer Part No: 1K0 920 960 L Component: IMMO 3354 02241 - Engine Control Module; Immobilizer Data not Adapted 000 - - - Intermittent -------------------------------------------------- Address 25: Immobilizer Part No SW: 3C0 959 433 H HW: 3C0 959 433 H Component: IMMO 038 0364 Revision: 00038000 Serial number: VWZCZ000000000 Part No: 3C0 905 861 C Component: ELV 023 0350 3C0905861CELV 023 0350 02823 - Requirements for Locking the Steering Column Lock not met 000 - - - Intermittent 02861 - Electronic Steering Column Lock Check Sum Error 008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent 02815 - Steering Column Lock; Supply Voltage for Locking Motor 002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent 02817 - Steering Column Lock; Enabling Wire from Steering Wheel Electronics 002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermitten 02818 - Steering Column Lock; Enabling for Electronic Ignition Lock 009 - Open or Short to Ground 02811 - Control Module for Electronic Steering Column Lock (J764) 014 - Defective - Intermittent -------------------------------------------------- Address 25: Immobilizer Part No: 2K0 920 941 CX Component: IMMO VDD 0716 -------------------------------------------------- Address 25: Immobilizer Part No: 1P0 920 825 B Component: IMMO VO3 0424 -------------------------------------------------- Address 25: Immobilizer Part No: 6Q0 920 923 Q Component: IMMOBILIZER VDO V03 Coding: 01444 -------------------------------------------------- Address 25: Immobilizer Part No: 6Q0 920 923 R Component: IMMOBILIZER VDO V02 Coding: 01432 -------------------------------------------------- Address 25: Immobilizer Part No: 6Q0 920 903 J Component: IMMOBILIZER VDO V06 Coding: 01431 -------------------------------------------------- Address 25: Immobilizer Controller: 6Q0 920 825 E Component: IMMOBILIZER VDO V03 Coding: 01144 -------------------------------------------------- Address 25: Immobilizer Part No: 6Q0 920 825 F Component: IMMOBILIZER AGD V05 Coding: 01132 -------------------------------------------------- Address 25: Immobilizer Part No: 6Q0 920 804 Component: IMMOBILIZER VDO V06 Coding: 01131 -------------------------------------------------- Address 25: Immobilizer (J334) Part No SW: 5K0 953 234 HW: 5K0 953 234 Component: IMMO H04 0406 Serial number: 00000000000000 Coding: 000000 ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03008 ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09_SE25.rod -------------------------------------------------- Address 25: Immobilizer (J334) Part No SW: 6J0 920 901 A HW: 6J0 920 901 A Component: IMMO X07 0110 Serial number: ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03004 ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09_SE25.rod -------------------------------------------------- Address 25: Immobilizer (J334) Part No SW: 6R0 920 861 B HW: 6R0 920 861 B Component: IMMO H23 0110 Serial number: ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03004 ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09_VN35.rod -------------------------------------------------- Address 25: Immobilizer (J334) Part No SW: 5K0 953 234 HW: 5M0 920 960 E Component: IMMO H14 0112 Revision: X0014004 Serial number: Coding: 000000 ASAM Dataset: EV_ImmoUDSMM9RM10 A01102 ROD: EV_ImmoUDSMM9RM10.rod -------------------------------------------------- Address 25: Immobilizer (J334) Part No SW: 5K6 920 970 G HW: 5K6 920 970 G Component: IMMO H05 0206 Serial number: 00000000000000 ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03004 ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09_VW36.rod -------------------------------------------------- Address 25: Immobilizer Part No SW: 3C0 959 433 AR HW: 3C0 959 433 AR Component: IMMO 043 0383 Revision: 00043000 Serial number: VWZCZ000000000 Part No: 3C0 905 861 H Component: ELV 028 0380 3C0905861H ELV 028 0380 -------------------------------------------------- Address 25: Immobilizer Part No SW: 1K6 920 974 H HW: 1K6 920 974 H Component: IMMO VDD 2416 Revision: V0003000 Serial number: VWX7Z0H43NL82Z -------------------------------------------------- Address 25: Immobilizer Controller: 6X0 953 257 Component: IMMO 0007 Coding: 00001 -------------------------------------------------- Address 25: Immobilizer Part No: 5P0 920 825 A Component: IMMO VO3 0422 -------------------------------------------------- Address 25: Immobilizer Part No SW: 1Z0 920 912 E HW: 1Z0 920 912 E Component: IMMO VD1 1610 Revision: V1610056 Serial number: SKZ7Z0G4047329 -------------------------------------------------- Address 25: Immobilizer (J334) Part No SW: 5K0 953 234 HW: 5K0 953 234 Component: IMMO H03 0505 Serial number: Coding: 000000 ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03009 ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09_VW25.rod -------------------------------------------------- Address 25: Immobilizer Part No SW: 8P0 920 931 HW: 8P0 920 931 Component: KOMBIINSTR. VDO H18 0560 Revision: D0H18002 Serial number: AUX7Z0F6FN5049 ------------------------------------------------- Address 25: Immobilizer Controller: 6X0 953 257 Component: IMMO 0003 Coding: 00001 -------------------------------------------------- Address 25: Immobilizer Controller: 6X0 953 257 Component: IMMO 0008 Coding: 00001 -------------------------------------------------- Address 25: Immobilizer (J334) Part No SW: 5K0 953 234 HW: 5K0 953 234 Component: IMMO H07 0705 Serial number: 00000000000000 Coding: 000007 ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03709 ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09_SE36.rod -------------------------------------------------- Address 25: Immobilizer (J334) Part No SW: 5K0 953 234 HW: 5K0 953 234 Component: IMMO H07 0308 Serial number: Coding: 000000 ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03005 ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09_SE35.rod -------------------------------------------------- Address 25: Immobilizer (J334) Part No SW: 5K0 953 234 HW: 5K0 953 234 Component: IMMO H03 0607 Serial number: Coding: 000000 ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03009 ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09_VW36.rod -------------------------------------------------- Address 25: Immobilizer (J334) Part No SW: 6J0 920 901 A HW: 6J0 920 901 A Component: IMMO X07 0110 Serial number: ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03004 ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09_SE25.rod -------------------------------------------------- Address 25: Immobilizer Part No: 1P0 920 904 C Component: IMMO VO3 0422 -------------------------------------------------- Address 25: Immobilizer Controller: 6X0 953 257 Component: IMMO 0008 Coding: 00001 -------------------------------------------------- Address 25: Immobilizer Part No: 6Q0 920 903 J Component: IMMOBILIZER VDO V06 Coding: 01431 -------------------------------------------------- Address 25: Immobilizer Part No: 6Q0 920 923 R Component: IMMOBILIZER VDO V06 Coding: 01432 -------------------------------------------------- Address 25: Immobilizer Part No SW: 1K0 920 953 P HW: 1K0 920 953 P Component: IMMO 3HL 1610 Revision: V0003000 Serial number: VWZ7Z0G9079540 -------------------------------------------------- Address 25: Immobilizer Part No SW: 3AA 959 433 HW: 3AA 959 433 Component: IMMO 043 0399 Revision: 00043000 Serial number: VWZCZ000000000 Subsystem 1 - Part No: 3C0 905 861 J Component: ELV 029 0380 3C0905861J ELV 029 0380 -------------------------------------------------- Address 25: Immobilizer Part No SW: 3C0 959 433 AQ HW: 3C0 959 433 AQ Component: IMMO 044 0383 Revision: 00044000 Serial number: VWZCZ000000000 Part No: 3C0 905 861 G Component: ELV 027 0380 3C0905861G ELV 027 0380 -------------------------------------------------- Address 25: Immobilizer Part No SW: 8P0 920 981 A HW: 8P0 920 981 A Component: KOMBIINSTR. VDO H73 0300 Revision: D04 Serial number: AUX7Z0E1FNG04N -------------------------------------------------- Address 25: Immobilizer Part No SW: 8P0 920 900 F HW: 8P0 920 900 F Component: KOMBIINSTR. VDO H72 0210 Revision: D03 Serial number: AUX7Z0D9FND0BK -------------------------------------------------- Address 25: Immobilizer Part No SW: 8J0 920 980 G HW: 8J0 920 980 G Component: KOMBIINSTR. VDO H02 0480 Revision: D0H02002 Serial number: AUX7Z0I4FNJ115 -------------------------------------------------- Address 25: Immobilizer Part No SW: 1K0 920 974 N HW: 1K0 920 974 N Component: IMMO 3HL 2418 Revision: V0003000 Serial number: VWX7Z0H824U00R

7 comments:

  1. UnknownMarch 21, 2020 at 7:18 PM

    01141

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  2. UnknownFebruary 2, 2021 at 11:42 AM

    My car shows the same lite and it does not start wat could be a problem

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  3. UnknownJune 16, 2021 at 3:30 AM

    My car shows the same lite and it does not start wat could be a problem,chenged battery.volt 13.5v.and checked RFID key..it's still id number flash...didnot runed.help me please..

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  4. UnknownOctober 18, 2021 at 8:37 PM

    My car show same problem what should I do please

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    1. AnonymousJuly 12, 2023 at 6:26 PM

      تركها وعملها مخلل

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  5. AnonymousJune 29, 2022 at 6:56 PM

    Coding 00141

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  6. AnonymousJanuary 18, 2023 at 11:54 AM

    My car won't start by sign of key lights polo 1.6 it stil fleshing the light😔

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