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Damn you ! -you spoilt my 5 replies in a row post ! They're all good but the best ones are those made in Japan in the 80's with the square tank.Later bikes were built in Brazil, Pakistan & Turkey among other places, the finish and material quality are not as good. Sorry 1050! 
sprinter1050 said: Damn you ! -you spoilt my 5 replies in a row post !Oh well...it's 6 now ! sprinter1050 said: sprinter1050 said: Damn you ! -you spoilt my 5 replies in a row post !Oh well...it's 6 now ! Is it? 
Nope see above ! On a thread resurrection here but googling CG125 kicked me back into PH 
Got my CBT booked for next month and going to look at a 1976 CG next week to pootle around town on to get some practice until I can sort out a DSA theory and test. Anything in particular needing to be looked at if I buy it or is it a case of "If it runs and stops - That'll do"? carmadgaz said: On a thread resurrection here but googling CG125 kicked me back into PH Got my CBT booked for next month and going to look at a 1976 CG next week to pootle around town on to get some practice until I can sort out a DSA theory and test. Anything in particular needing to be looked at if I buy it or is it a case of "If it runs and stops - That'll do"?I think if its lasted nearly 40 years it should be ok, but I'd make sure my eyes were wide open. Am I correct in thinking that a lot of the Chinese cheapies use an almost exact replica of the cg125 engine? I did a bit of tinkering on one for a lad I know, and I'm sure the resemblance was uncanny. johnny fotze said: Am I correct in thinking that a lot of the Chinese cheapies use an almost exact replica of the cg125 engine? I did a bit of tinkering on one for a lad I know, and I'm sure the resemblance was uncanny.And that's where it ends, resemblance.Quality Control is not even close at the moment, I'm sure it'll improve over time mind. John D. said: I'm in this camp. Never even considered riding a 125 for a period of time, decided from the start to go straight for the DAS. But even after just 2 days training on a CG125 I was sick of it. Gutless is not the word! They seem to have a bit of a cult following on here so maybe I'm missing something, but they seemed utter cack to me. So what it does 10,000 MPG?! You've got to wring its neck to do 60 thats why. Look forward to hills too.You are missing the point I feel. Any four stroke 125 needs it neck wringing if you want to keep up with traffic on an unrestricted road. The CG has such a following because it's so robustly made and reliable. If you need a bike to commute on and you aren't doing stupid mileage or on motorways then you'd be hard pressed to find many machines cheaper to run (possibly a C90 as someone mentioned). It's not designed to go fast or handle like a sports bike, but they do what they are designed to do very well indeed. I think it's reputation is deserved. Would I recommend one? Most definitely, yes!No-one rides a CG125 because they're fast, handle beautifully or are really sexy. They're cheap to run, anonymous and characterful transport. Enough to safely, and reliably, get you to work on a few pence of petrol whilst being reasonably comfortable and easy to ride, competent at most things and a great way to learn the basics. And I note that they are practically anonymous on the road, not to say that you're invisible, mainly that they don't attract the ire of passing idiots in diesel repmobiles like a faired sports bike 125 does.I got mine in May, being in a situation where I had sold my car, just forked out for a holiday and wasn't in need of immediate four wheeled transport. All I required was something to get me to work and back, so I fancied that I would make use of my CBT and buy a motorbike. I had been holding out for a CG125, mainly because they have such a strong reputation. Given that many bike schools are running decade old (or older) CG's as training bikes rather than newer YBR's or CBF's, I thought the CG would be a good place to start.For day to say running, it easily returns the approximate claims of 120mpg, which for me is a mixed run starting on B roads, then of several miles of dual carraigeway and 50mph trunk road, before a slower ride through the city and suburban sprawl. I did have some issues with it, mainly that after a couple of weeks it would stall when cold at idle if you weren't opening the throttle. That was fixed by simply adjusting the idle speed screw. I also had some issues with the kickstart and the gearbox, mainly fixed by improving my shifting technique and avoiding standing in oil before trying to kickstart the bike on a hill. It's fun to ride and I love the engine at lower speeds. It makes a fun noise, it's perky enough for getting round the city. It's well out of it's depth at 60mph or (ever so slightly) above, which is to say that at such a speed you won't manage to overtake anything in your way, but it's happy to sit at that speed all day long. You need not fear other traffic too much, which tends to work it's way around you. It's not 'dangerously slow' by any stretch, and even without a front screen, driving rain and wind is bearable, if not massively pleasant. The headlight is surprisingly bright for a 35w item, though it's noticeably brighter with the throttle open! The gearing is such that it strives to give everything the engine has, which can mean it's relatively buzzy at certain road and engine speeds, but you must simply accept that it's a small engine doing it's best. It has a lovely induction noise to compensate. The handling is adequate, I gather no seasoned biker would ever rave about it but I've not found it lacking so far. The brakes are pretty cack, and often flat out on a B road is faster than you know the brakes would stop you should a sudden hazard appear, which trims your pace a tad in the interest of safety. Still, I reckon it's a good habit never to rely on your brakes to get you out of trouble!Overall, great bikes which cost very little to buy and run, and are still sought after, thus I understand it's easy to get a decent return on them. Does everything it says on the tin.
johnny fotze said: Am I correct in thinking that a lot of the Chinese cheapies use an almost exact replica of the cg125 engine? I did a bit of tinkering on one for a lad I know, and I'm sure the resemblance was uncanny.Yep - some are good enough copies that you could replace real Honda CG bits with them and it will work.Of course, the Honda parts if looked after will be good for decades, maybe centuries, into the future even on a CG celebrating its 40th today - Chinese copy however... Sounds like it'll be perfect for my intended role then 
(being quicker than walking to work and saving my car 4 short journeys a day)Baryonyx said: The headlight is surprisingly bright for a 35w item, though it's noticeably brighter with the throttle open! That's not a particularly high wattage 
. I suppose some LED indicators and an upgraded light wouldn't be too difficult (although it won't be doing much in the dark, have 4 wheel transport if it's pissing down or late at night). The best thing about commuting on a CG125, provided you don't need to do big motorway miles, is that any time lost doing 60 where you'd do 70 or 80 in a car is more than accounted for when you think about filtering. With practise, you can thread through snarled up lines of traffic, and if you time yourself properly you can make it through multiple sets of traffic lights without putting a foot down, and your average speed in these areas greatly exceeds anyone stuck in the queue using 4 wheels. Also, you're on a bike, so unless it's raining like buggery and you don't have good waterproofs, or its extremely windy or there is ice on the road, it's a lot more fun and satisfying than being in a car. If my circumstances meant I had a commute where a 125 was going to be the cheapest and quickest way of getting to work, I'll be straight on the hunt for one. If you commute a decent amount of miles, you will recoup the cost of buying, taxing and insuring the bike within a year of purchase. carmadgaz said: That's not a particularly high wattage . I suppose some LED indicators and an upgraded light wouldn't be too difficult (although it won't be doing much in the dark, have 4 wheel transport if it's pissing down or late at night).I'd give it a go first. I've read of people upgrading their bulbs to get a better light, but I'm not sure if that will effect the battery or performance of the other lights on the circuit. As I say, you'll notice that even the 35w bulb is considerable brighter with the throttle open! However, it's worth giving it a go before spending any time and effort upgrading it. I thought it would be absolutely useless, as it doesn't look like a particularly effective unit. However, the light and projection it produces is definitely adequate, I ride down several miles of unlit D/C and B roads after late shifts, and these are rounds that are frankly pitch black without illumination (unless the moon is shining down). I've no complaints over the light, even with the dipped beam on for oncoming traffic still works well. It's higher up than some car lights, so that is a bonus. EDIT: I was thinking of my MX5 when I typed this, which had dire lights, so it'll probably be better than your MX5, if that is a benchmark. I learnt to ride on one. They are tough, but I'd never want to own one. Not even for the savings it gives. As a first step into biking fine, not a long term thing - too slow. I'd have a 250 or 300 Vespa which will be almost as economical but quite a bit faster, and some storage space. HertsBiker said: I learnt to ride on one. They are tough, but I'd never want to own one. Not even for the savings it gives. As a first step into biking fine, not a long term thing - too slow. I'd have a 250 or 300 Vespa which will be almost as economical but quite a bit faster, and some storage space.I'd take a slow CG125 over a Vespa poof chariot every time. I've had a couple. There's an imported version that's from 01 onwards iirc but it looks like an older design - usually red and blue. Parts seem to be harder to find and IMO there not proper CG125's, even though they are. The later ones had electric, but no kick start with front disc brake (rubbish in the middle of Mongolia if it fails), no chain guard.They've been made all over the place including Turkey, Brazil and er Japan!I'd be inclined to go for a mid 90's with electronic ignition and kick start. Edited by GTIR on Sunday 29th June 11:51 Converting to electronic ignition should be easy enough to do . Still waiting for a text to see when I can go look at it now. Small world, the owner is a mate of my neighbour who bought it off a mate's husband who bought it from one of my best mates so at least I can follow the history a bit Reply OP Posts Only Prev 1 of 33 Next OP Posts Only Reply OP Posts Only
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[report] [news]Saturday 12th June 2010 Damn you ! -you spoilt my 5 replies in a row post ! kingstonandy
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[report] [news]Saturday 12th June 2010 They're all good but the best ones are those made in Japan in the 80's with the square tank.Later bikes were built in Brazil, Pakistan & Turkey among other places, the finish and material quality are not as good. Schmeeky
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[report] [news]Saturday 12th June 2010 Sorry 1050! sprinter1050
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[report] [news]Saturday 12th June 2010 sprinter1050 said: Damn you ! -you spoilt my 5 replies in a row post !Oh well...it's 6 now ! Schmeeky
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[report] [news]Saturday 12th June 2010 sprinter1050 said: sprinter1050 said: Damn you ! -you spoilt my 5 replies in a row post !Oh well...it's 6 now ! Is it? sprinter1050
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[report] [news]Saturday 12th June 2010 Nope see above ! carmadgaz
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[report] [news]Friday 27th June 2014 On a thread resurrection here but googling CG125 kicked me back into PH Got my CBT booked for next month and going to look at a 1976 CG next week to pootle around town on to get some practice until I can sort out a DSA theory and test. Anything in particular needing to be looked at if I buy it or is it a case of "If it runs and stops - That'll do"? Jazoli
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[report] [news]Friday 27th June 2014 carmadgaz said: On a thread resurrection here but googling CG125 kicked me back into PH Got my CBT booked for next month and going to look at a 1976 CG next week to pootle around town on to get some practice until I can sort out a DSA theory and test. Anything in particular needing to be looked at if I buy it or is it a case of "If it runs and stops - That'll do"?I think if its lasted nearly 40 years it should be ok, but I'd make sure my eyes were wide open. johnny fotze
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[report] [news]Friday 27th June 2014 Am I correct in thinking that a lot of the Chinese cheapies use an almost exact replica of the cg125 engine? I did a bit of tinkering on one for a lad I know, and I'm sure the resemblance was uncanny. Wyvern971
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[report] [news]Friday 27th June 2014 johnny fotze said: Am I correct in thinking that a lot of the Chinese cheapies use an almost exact replica of the cg125 engine? I did a bit of tinkering on one for a lad I know, and I'm sure the resemblance was uncanny.And that's where it ends, resemblance.Quality Control is not even close at the moment, I'm sure it'll improve over time mind. Mr2Mike
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[report] [news]Friday 27th June 2014 John D. said: I'm in this camp. Never even considered riding a 125 for a period of time, decided from the start to go straight for the DAS. But even after just 2 days training on a CG125 I was sick of it. Gutless is not the word! They seem to have a bit of a cult following on here so maybe I'm missing something, but they seemed utter cack to me. So what it does 10,000 MPG?! You've got to wring its neck to do 60 thats why. Look forward to hills too.You are missing the point I feel. Any four stroke 125 needs it neck wringing if you want to keep up with traffic on an unrestricted road. The CG has such a following because it's so robustly made and reliable. If you need a bike to commute on and you aren't doing stupid mileage or on motorways then you'd be hard pressed to find many machines cheaper to run (possibly a C90 as someone mentioned). It's not designed to go fast or handle like a sports bike, but they do what they are designed to do very well indeed. Baryonyx
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[report] [news]Friday 27th June 2014 I think it's reputation is deserved. Would I recommend one? Most definitely, yes!No-one rides a CG125 because they're fast, handle beautifully or are really sexy. They're cheap to run, anonymous and characterful transport. Enough to safely, and reliably, get you to work on a few pence of petrol whilst being reasonably comfortable and easy to ride, competent at most things and a great way to learn the basics. And I note that they are practically anonymous on the road, not to say that you're invisible, mainly that they don't attract the ire of passing idiots in diesel repmobiles like a faired sports bike 125 does.I got mine in May, being in a situation where I had sold my car, just forked out for a holiday and wasn't in need of immediate four wheeled transport. All I required was something to get me to work and back, so I fancied that I would make use of my CBT and buy a motorbike. I had been holding out for a CG125, mainly because they have such a strong reputation. Given that many bike schools are running decade old (or older) CG's as training bikes rather than newer YBR's or CBF's, I thought the CG would be a good place to start.For day to say running, it easily returns the approximate claims of 120mpg, which for me is a mixed run starting on B roads, then of several miles of dual carraigeway and 50mph trunk road, before a slower ride through the city and suburban sprawl. I did have some issues with it, mainly that after a couple of weeks it would stall when cold at idle if you weren't opening the throttle. That was fixed by simply adjusting the idle speed screw. I also had some issues with the kickstart and the gearbox, mainly fixed by improving my shifting technique and avoiding standing in oil before trying to kickstart the bike on a hill. It's fun to ride and I love the engine at lower speeds. It makes a fun noise, it's perky enough for getting round the city. It's well out of it's depth at 60mph or (ever so slightly) above, which is to say that at such a speed you won't manage to overtake anything in your way, but it's happy to sit at that speed all day long. You need not fear other traffic too much, which tends to work it's way around you. It's not 'dangerously slow' by any stretch, and even without a front screen, driving rain and wind is bearable, if not massively pleasant. The headlight is surprisingly bright for a 35w item, though it's noticeably brighter with the throttle open! The gearing is such that it strives to give everything the engine has, which can mean it's relatively buzzy at certain road and engine speeds, but you must simply accept that it's a small engine doing it's best. It has a lovely induction noise to compensate. The handling is adequate, I gather no seasoned biker would ever rave about it but I've not found it lacking so far. The brakes are pretty cack, and often flat out on a B road is faster than you know the brakes would stop you should a sudden hazard appear, which trims your pace a tad in the interest of safety. Still, I reckon it's a good habit never to rely on your brakes to get you out of trouble!Overall, great bikes which cost very little to buy and run, and are still sought after, thus I understand it's easy to get a decent return on them. Does everything it says on the tin. CBR JGWRR
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[report] [news]Friday 27th June 2014 johnny fotze said: Am I correct in thinking that a lot of the Chinese cheapies use an almost exact replica of the cg125 engine? I did a bit of tinkering on one for a lad I know, and I'm sure the resemblance was uncanny.Yep - some are good enough copies that you could replace real Honda CG bits with them and it will work.Of course, the Honda parts if looked after will be good for decades, maybe centuries, into the future even on a CG celebrating its 40th today - Chinese copy however... carmadgaz
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[report] [news]Saturday 28th June 2014 Sounds like it'll be perfect for my intended role then (being quicker than walking to work and saving my car 4 short journeys a day)Baryonyx said: The headlight is surprisingly bright for a 35w item, though it's noticeably brighter with the throttle open! That's not a particularly high wattage . I suppose some LED indicators and an upgraded light wouldn't be too difficult (although it won't be doing much in the dark, have 4 wheel transport if it's pissing down or late at night). Mastodon2
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[report] [news]Saturday 28th June 2014 The best thing about commuting on a CG125, provided you don't need to do big motorway miles, is that any time lost doing 60 where you'd do 70 or 80 in a car is more than accounted for when you think about filtering. With practise, you can thread through snarled up lines of traffic, and if you time yourself properly you can make it through multiple sets of traffic lights without putting a foot down, and your average speed in these areas greatly exceeds anyone stuck in the queue using 4 wheels. Also, you're on a bike, so unless it's raining like buggery and you don't have good waterproofs, or its extremely windy or there is ice on the road, it's a lot more fun and satisfying than being in a car. If my circumstances meant I had a commute where a 125 was going to be the cheapest and quickest way of getting to work, I'll be straight on the hunt for one. If you commute a decent amount of miles, you will recoup the cost of buying, taxing and insuring the bike within a year of purchase. Baryonyx
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[report] [news]Saturday 28th June 2014 carmadgaz said: That's not a particularly high wattage . I suppose some LED indicators and an upgraded light wouldn't be too difficult (although it won't be doing much in the dark, have 4 wheel transport if it's pissing down or late at night).I'd give it a go first. I've read of people upgrading their bulbs to get a better light, but I'm not sure if that will effect the battery or performance of the other lights on the circuit. As I say, you'll notice that even the 35w bulb is considerable brighter with the throttle open! However, it's worth giving it a go before spending any time and effort upgrading it. I thought it would be absolutely useless, as it doesn't look like a particularly effective unit. However, the light and projection it produces is definitely adequate, I ride down several miles of unlit D/C and B roads after late shifts, and these are rounds that are frankly pitch black without illumination (unless the moon is shining down). I've no complaints over the light, even with the dipped beam on for oncoming traffic still works well. It's higher up than some car lights, so that is a bonus. EDIT: I was thinking of my MX5 when I typed this, which had dire lights, so it'll probably be better than your MX5, if that is a benchmark. HertsBiker
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[report] [news]Sunday 29th June 2014 I learnt to ride on one. They are tough, but I'd never want to own one. Not even for the savings it gives. As a first step into biking fine, not a long term thing - too slow. I'd have a 250 or 300 Vespa which will be almost as economical but quite a bit faster, and some storage space. Mr2Mike
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[report] [news]Sunday 29th June 2014 HertsBiker said: I learnt to ride on one. They are tough, but I'd never want to own one. Not even for the savings it gives. As a first step into biking fine, not a long term thing - too slow. I'd have a 250 or 300 Vespa which will be almost as economical but quite a bit faster, and some storage space.I'd take a slow CG125 over a Vespa poof chariot every time. GTIR
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[report] [news]Sunday 29th June 2014 I've had a couple. There's an imported version that's from 01 onwards iirc but it looks like an older design - usually red and blue. Parts seem to be harder to find and IMO there not proper CG125's, even though they are. The later ones had electric, but no kick start with front disc brake (rubbish in the middle of Mongolia if it fails), no chain guard.They've been made all over the place including Turkey, Brazil and er Japan!I'd be inclined to go for a mid 90's with electronic ignition and kick start. Edited by GTIR on Sunday 29th June 11:51 carmadgaz
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[report] [news]Monday 30th June 2014 Converting to electronic ignition should be easy enough to do . Still waiting for a text to see when I can go look at it now. Small world, the owner is a mate of my neighbour who bought it off a mate's husband who bought it from one of my best mates so at least I can follow the history a bit Reply OP Posts Only Prev 1 of 33 Next OP Posts Only Reply OP Posts Only Gassing Station | Biker Banter | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff
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