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reddeadg8 R I didnt realize Katech was having issues with other business's marketing weaker chains as their high performance Katech C5-R timing chains. Apparently some are marketing generic IWIS aftermarket chains as equivalent (including pricing) to the purpose built and well respected C5-R chain. This was taken from a post by Jason at Katech posted on another forum (https://ls1tech.com/forums/generati...1863321-katech-c5-r-chain-beware-impostors-selling-lesser-chain-same-price.html) It has come to our attention that Hinson Motorsports has been advertising on their website that they have "Partnered with IWIS to offer the Katech C5-R chain at a great price." No such partnership was developed. Per our request, Hinson Motorsports has since removed our Katech name and mention of any partnership from their website. Thank you Hinson. However, they are still advertising the chain as the C5-R. We have verified this to be false. The C5-R chain has a proprietary link and pin which is exclusive to the C5-R. The only two companies that can buy the C5-R chain are Katech and GM Racing. The C5-R chain is the gold standard in LS timing chains and has been proven by Katech and GM Racing in the 24 Hours of Le Mans, 24 Hours of Daytona, all ALMS, IMSA, Grand Am, Trans Am, World Challenge, and for that matter, every LS/LT engine built by Katech. The Corvette Racing C5-R, C6.R and current IMSA C7.R all use the C5-R chain. We verified with IWIS that no C5-R chains have made it through any other distribution channels and have only been shipped to the USA for use by Katech and GM Racing. We are 100% certain the chain that is going to Hinson through a different distribution channel is not the C5-R, but rather an IWIS aftermarket chain. The IWIS aftermarket chain is sold by many vendors. For example, Lingenfelter lists the IWIS aftermarket chain here for $83.95. http://www.lingenfelter.com/PROD.htm...2#.WMgCuW8rKM8 Lingenfelter also sells the Katech C5-R chain for $149.99 http://www.lingenfelter.com/PROD.htm...ode=HME-G68V-2 So, Hinson Motorsports is buying the IWIS aftermarket chain which you can get for $83.95 and marking it up to $149.99 and calling it the C5-R chain. We have informed Hinson Motorsports of this misrepresentation and given them several weeks to correct the problem, but have only removed the Katech name from their website. So, we feel it is our duty to inform the public that what you are purchasing from Hinson is not truly the Katech C5-R chain. Also, Hinson has been selling these chains to Summit Racing who has been selling them as the C5-R, which is incorrect. Summit has also agreed to take our name off their listing. Thank you Summit. Hinson has also been selling a chain called the C7.R chain, which is also misleading. The actual C7.R Corvette that races in the IMSA United Sportscar Series uses the Katech/GM Racing C5-R chain. All Corvette Racing cars have used that chain since the early 2000s. Hinson has taken the the IWIS aftermarket chain, made a seamless roller version and called it the C7.R. A change we feel is unnecessary, since a roller has never failed in thousands of chains. So, if you're interested in purchasing a C5-R chain and don't want an IWIS aftermarket chain for the C5-R price, I would recommend either buying it directly from our website, or one of the known vendors of Katech C5-R chains listed below. http://store.katechengines.com/c5-r-...chain-p30.aspx Brian Tooley Racing Lingenfelter Scoggin Dickey Jannetty Racing Weapon X Motorsports East Coast Supercharging Aikman Performance McCluskey Chevrolet Abel Chevrolet Race Proven Motorsports JDP Performance Cordes Performance Powertech Performance Tick Performance Texas Speed Coolchevy Race Parts (Germany) Excelsior Motorsports Wong's Performance Tune Time Performance Doug Rippie Motorsports Speed Inc Corvette Central Baker Engineering #1 · Jul 30, 2017 I didnt realize Katech was having issues with other business's marketing weaker chains as their high performance Katech C5-R timing chains. Apparently some are marketing generic IWIS aftermarket chains as equivalent (including pricing) to the purpose built and well respected C5-R chain. This was taken from a post by Jason at Katech posted on another forum (https://ls1tech.com/forums/generati...1863321-katech-c5-r-chain-beware-impostors-selling-lesser-chain-same-price.html) It has come to our attention that Hinson Motorsports has been advertising on their website that they have "Partnered with IWIS to offer the Katech C5-R chain at a great price." No such partnership was developed. Per our request, Hinson Motorsports has since removed our Katech name and mention of any partnership from their website. Thank you Hinson. However, they are still advertising the chain as the C5-R. We have verified this to be false. The C5-R chain has a proprietary link and pin which is exclusive to the C5-R. The only two companies that can buy the C5-R chain are Katech and GM Racing. The C5-R chain is the gold standard in LS timing chains and has been proven by Katech and GM Racing in the 24 Hours of Le Mans, 24 Hours of Daytona, all ALMS, IMSA, Grand Am, Trans Am, World Challenge, and for that matter, every LS/LT engine built by Katech. The Corvette Racing C5-R, C6.R and current IMSA C7.R all use the C5-R chain. We verified with IWIS that no C5-R chains have made it through any other distribution channels and have only been shipped to the USA for use by Katech and GM Racing. We are 100% certain the chain that is going to Hinson through a different distribution channel is not the C5-R, but rather an IWIS aftermarket chain. The IWIS aftermarket chain is sold by many vendors. For example, Lingenfelter lists the IWIS aftermarket chain here for $83.95. http://www.lingenfelter.com/PROD.htm...2#.WMgCuW8rKM8 Lingenfelter also sells the Katech C5-R chain for $149.99 http://www.lingenfelter.com/PROD.htm...ode=HME-G68V-2 So, Hinson Motorsports is buying the IWIS aftermarket chain which you can get for $83.95 and marking it up to $149.99 and calling it the C5-R chain. We have informed Hinson Motorsports of this misrepresentation and given them several weeks to correct the problem, but have only removed the Katech name from their website. So, we feel it is our duty to inform the public that what you are purchasing from Hinson is not truly the Katech C5-R chain. Also, Hinson has been selling these chains to Summit Racing who has been selling them as the C5-R, which is incorrect. Summit has also agreed to take our name off their listing. Thank you Summit. Hinson has also been selling a chain called the C7.R chain, which is also misleading. The actual C7.R Corvette that races in the IMSA United Sportscar Series uses the Katech/GM Racing C5-R chain. All Corvette Racing cars have used that chain since the early 2000s. Hinson has taken the the IWIS aftermarket chain, made a seamless roller version and called it the C7.R. A change we feel is unnecessary, since a roller has never failed in thousands of chains. So, if you're interested in purchasing a C5-R chain and don't want an IWIS aftermarket chain for the C5-R price, I would recommend either buying it directly from our website, or one of the known vendors of Katech C5-R chains listed below. http://store.katechengines.com/c5-r-...chain-p30.aspx Brian Tooley Racing Lingenfelter Scoggin Dickey Jannetty Racing Weapon X Motorsports East Coast Supercharging Aikman Performance McCluskey Chevrolet Abel Chevrolet Race Proven Motorsports JDP Performance Cordes Performance Powertech Performance Tick Performance Texas Speed Coolchevy Race Parts (Germany) Excelsior Motorsports Wong's Performance Tune Time Performance Doug Rippie Motorsports Speed Inc Corvette Central Baker Engineering See less See more Sort by Oldest first Oldest first Newest first Most reactions #2 · Jul 30, 2017 I've wondered about the C5-R Livernois chain that advertises with almost identical wording as Katech's website. Pretty sure that just answered my question. #3 · Jul 30, 2017
reddeadg8 said: I didnt realize Katech was having issues with other business's marketing weaker chains as their high performance Katech C5-R timing chains. Apparently some are marketing generic IWIS aftermarket chains as equivalent (including pricing) to the purpose built and well respected C5-R chain. This was taken from a post by Jason at Katech posted on another forum (https://ls1tech.com/forums/generati...1863321-katech-c5-r-chain-beware-impostors-selling-lesser-chain-same-price.html) It has come to our attention that Hinson Motorsports has been advertising on their website that they have "Partnered with IWIS to offer the Katech C5-R chain at a great price." No such partnership was developed. Per our request, Hinson Motorsports has since removed our Katech name and mention of any partnership from their website. Thank you Hinson. However, they are still advertising the chain as the C5-R. We have verified this to be false. The C5-R chain has a proprietary link and pin which is exclusive to the C5-R. The only two companies that can buy the C5-R chain are Katech and GM Racing. The C5-R chain is the gold standard in LS timing chains and has been proven by Katech and GM Racing in the 24 Hours of Le Mans, 24 Hours of Daytona, all ALMS, IMSA, Grand Am, Trans Am, World Challenge, and for that matter, every LS/LT engine built by Katech. The Corvette Racing C5-R, C6.R and current IMSA C7.R all use the C5-R chain. We verified with IWIS that no C5-R chains have made it through any other distribution channels and have only been shipped to the USA for use by Katech and GM Racing. We are 100% certain the chain that is going to Hinson through a different distribution channel is not the C5-R, but rather an IWIS aftermarket chain. The IWIS aftermarket chain is sold by many vendors. For example, Lingenfelter lists the IWIS aftermarket chain here for $83.95. http://www.lingenfelter.com/PROD.htm...2#.WMgCuW8rKM8 Lingenfelter also sells the Katech C5-R chain for $149.99 http://www.lingenfelter.com/PROD.htm...ode=HME-G68V-2 So, Hinson Motorsports is buying the IWIS aftermarket chain which you can get for $83.95 and marking it up to $149.99 and calling it the C5-R chain. We have informed Hinson Motorsports of this misrepresentation and given them several weeks to correct the problem, but have only removed the Katech name from their website. So, we feel it is our duty to inform the public that what you are purchasing from Hinson is not truly the Katech C5-R chain. Also, Hinson has been selling these chains to Summit Racing who has been selling them as the C5-R, which is incorrect. Summit has also agreed to take our name off their listing. Thank you Summit. Hinson has also been selling a chain called the C7.R chain, which is also misleading. The actual C7.R Corvette that races in the IMSA United Sportscar Series uses the Katech/GM Racing C5-R chain. All Corvette Racing cars have used that chain since the early 2000s. Hinson has taken the the IWIS aftermarket chain, made a seamless roller version and called it the C7.R. A change we feel is unnecessary, since a roller has never failed in thousands of chains. So, if you're interested in purchasing a C5-R chain and don't want an IWIS aftermarket chain for the C5-R price, I would recommend either buying it directly from our website, or one of the known vendors of Katech C5-R chains listed below. http://store.katechengines.com/c5-r-...chain-p30.aspx Brian Tooley Racing Lingenfelter Scoggin Dickey Jannetty Racing Weapon X Motorsports East Coast Supercharging Aikman Performance McCluskey Chevrolet Abel Chevrolet Race Proven Motorsports JDP Performance Cordes Performance Powertech Performance Tick Performance Texas Speed Coolchevy Race Parts (Germany) Excelsior Motorsports Wong's Performance Tune Time Performance Doug Rippie Motorsports Speed Inc Corvette Central Baker Engineering Click to expand...
I need my shop to check this out as I have the C5-R chain. #4 · Jul 30, 2017 This is what Livernois sold me as the C-5R chain... It was in a IWIS chain box. Wish I had kept the box to get the part number off of it. Fake or no? https://www.livernoismotorsports.com/product/LPP821115 #5 · Aug 1, 2017 I got mine from Jerry Aikman at Aikman Performance in Cedar Park Texas. Great dude and he knows LS motors really well!!!! #6 · Aug 1, 2017 Interesting post they made. But someone must not be giving them accurate info on this as we have a whole stack of sealed, G68V-2 chains imported straight from Germany and we sell them for 109.99 #7 · Aug 1, 2017 Thanks for the info! Your chain has been bookmarked for a while for my future build and I was starting to second guess it from some of the Katech posts over the years on the subject. Show more replies 0 Reply #9 · Aug 1, 2017 reach out to Katech. since they are the originator of the chain standard, IWIS simply manufactures it per their requirements. I am sure Katech can verify your chains are legit and update that thread. Insert Quotes Post Reply
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