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What would you go for?

  • R series KEF

    Votes: 1 33.3%
  • 700 line B&W

    Votes: 2 66.7%
  • Total voters 3
Shadi

Shadi

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Dec 5, 2020 4 1 20 Hi guys, I’m having a dilemma. I’m trying to choose between the kef R series (R7 floorstander specifically) and the B&W 700 (703 S2 specifically) series. Here are my system requirements: -High clarity and effortless. Speakers portraying exactly what the artist intended to portray. I fell in love with the Spendor A and D line but that’s out of my budget. -Modular, I want to start with a 3.1 setup then slowly add surround, Center and atmos. For home cinema. -The room size is 4.3mx7m. -old school minimalist wooden look with a boxy shape (straight lines). - Pair with a Denon AVR X3700/or 4700 amp and REL T7i/ or T9i subwoofer. - Music genres: rock, house, funk, soul, rnb, jazz, classic. What would you go for? The R7s in or the 703 s2? I’m open to suggestions from other brands too (preferably British). Thank you in advance 🙂 Al ears

Al ears

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Nov 23, 2008 13,962 8,515 64,070 Go audition, nobody here can really answer this. Neither of these are the best for home cinema purposes. Perhaps this should be in that sub forum.
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Shadi

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Dec 5, 2020 4 1 20
Al ears said: Go audition, nobody here can really answer this. Neither of these are the best for home cinema purposes. Perhaps this should be in that sub forum. Click to expand...
Thanks for the feedback! I’m unable to audition as the dealer here in Cyprus does not have these models in the showroom. The primary requirement isn’t home cinema... rather just a great stereo set up for music with home cinema capabilities. B

Belerofon

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Aug 9, 2020 70 17 4,545
Shadi said: Hi guys, I’m having a dilemma. I’m trying to choose between the kef R series (R7 floorstander specifically) and the B&W 700 (703 S2 specifically) series. Here are my system requirements: -High clarity and effortless. Speakers portraying exactly what the artist intended to portray. I fell in love with the Spendor A and D line but that’s out of my budget. -Modular, I want to start with a 3.1 setup then slowly add surround, Center and atmos. For home cinema. -The room size is 4.3mx7m. -old school minimalist wooden look with a boxy shape (straight lines). - Pair with a Denon AVR X3700/or 4700 amp and REL T7i/ or T9i subwoofer. - Music genres: rock, house, funk, soul, rnb, jazz, classic. What would you go for? The R7s in or the 703 s2? I’m open to suggestions from other brands too (preferably British). Thank you in advance 🙂 Click to expand...
Like Al Ears said. I'm saying trust your own ears. Bowers are little bright, Kef are more warm. For home cinema try Q Acoustic Concept 500 or 3050. Amazing soundstage, great for cinema. Personally i'm BW fan, but Kef K7 are amazing with Denon should be nice synergy. Try Klipsch very popular for home cinema.
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Shadi

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Dec 5, 2020 4 1 20 T
Belerofon said: Like Al Ears said. I'm saying trust your own ears. Bowers are little bright, Kef are more warm. For home cinema try Q Acoustic Concept 500 or 3050. Amazing soundstage, great for cinema. Personally i'm BW fan, but Kef K7 are amazing with Denon should be nice synergy. Try Klipsch very popular for home cinema. Click to expand...
thank you for your reply. I was thinking more along the lines of spendor A series, B&W 700 or KEF R. Klipsch and q acoustics are great but I prefer the design of the others. jjbomber

jjbomber

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Dec 22, 2006 2,533 1,891 24,070
Shadi said: Hi guys, I’m trying to choose between the kef R series (R7 floorstander specifically) and the B&W 700 (703 S2 specifically) series. (preferably British). Click to expand...
Bowers & Wilkins are american while KEF are Hong Kong owned. D

daytona600

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Oct 5, 2012 1,604 1,280 21,570 AVCX3700 is a cracking AV 9.2 amp for £1000 but pointless connecting £2500+ speakers for L/R Duties look at high end AVRs like anthem / lingdorf or AVR pre+power combo or pre-out on the denon into a £1000+ power amp I’m open to suggestions from other brands too preferably British Kef are chinese & B+W are american Def Tech BP9000 used these for a year now speaker/sub/atmos modules in one unit 5.4.4 in 5 speakers BP part of the same group as denon & work very well together & they just bought B&W designed for super large US rooms - huge power & dynamics on AV & excellent for 2ch music as well Definitive Technology BP9000 Series Bipolar Technology - YouTube Review: Definitive Technology BP9000 High-tech speakers built-in subs (allhomecinema.com) Last edited: Dec 6, 2020
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manicm

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BANNED May 1, 2008 2,721 1,200 22,570
daytona600 said: AVCX3700 is a cracking AV 9.2 amp for £1000 but pointless connecting £2500+ speakers for L/R Duties look at high end AVRs like anthem / lingdorf or AVR pre+power combo or pre-out on the denon into a £1000+ power amp I’m open to suggestions from other brands too preferably British Kef are chinese & B+W are american Def Tech BP9000 used these for a year now speaker/sub/atmos modules in one unit 5.4.4 in 5 speakers BP part of the same group as denon & work very well together designed for super large US rooms - huge power & dynamics on AV & excellent for 2ch music as well Review: Definitive Technology BP9000 High-tech speakers built-in subs (allhomecinema.com) Click to expand...
If you're going to get hung up on the country of manufacture you may as well give up the hifi ghost. KEF and B&W are originally British companies, but so far their products are still designed and engineered in the UK, if actually assembled in China or wherever. FYI, last time I checked Naim's Muso products are also made in China. Cyrus also manufacture their One range in China. Rega, Naim's >Muso products, Linn, Spendor, and Cyrus >One, ATC, Roksan and some others are made in UK.
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Shadi

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Dec 5, 2020 4 1 20 @daytona600 @manicm Thanks for your feedback it is much appreciated 🙂 The reasoning behind my British Engineered speaker preference is because I believe the national company behind the ideation of the loud speaker technology embeds their culture of producing the end product. Therefore the actual manufacture of the product is just a chain within the supply chain. The mother company produces systematic documentation on manufacturing processes that they exchange with the manufacturer. This is the age of globalisation and mass production to optimise the output efficiency of the company in order to maximise profits. Therefore I am not getting hung up on the country of manufacture; i am simply stating that I find the British culture and mindset of speaker production appealing to my speaker design and produced sound properties preferences 🙂
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Shadi said: Thanks for the feedback! I’m unable to audition as the dealer here in Cyprus does not have these models in the showroom. The primary requirement isn’t home cinema... rather just a great stereo set up for music with home cinema capabilities. Click to expand...
If you’re spending that sort money I’d find away to audition them. Must be more than one dealer in Cyprus. If you can’t get hold of those brands listen to what he has to better understand what you do don’t want. If you’re buying a speaker purely on looks you’re doing it wrong though important it’s not what I look at first. For that sort money I’d be adding Revel to audition list. Along with tannoy. Revel sound very similar to BW but a lot less brittle, Very much like a soft dome though metal and in my hunt for speakers revels walked all over kef. In my opinion. Far greater sound stage and don’t get congested when playing loud. Oh and they’re far far better made than both brands. The gloss black is flawless no orange peal texture. If want speakers that play effortlessly and stay composed for more money I’d look at some klipsch heresy iv’s but as I say will cost more but might be worth saving a little longer to get it right. Good luck with the hunt S

Sliced Bread

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Jul 28, 2010 510 94 18,970 Bowers & Wilkins parent company DEI Holding is American, but the speakers are designed in Britain. Manufacturing is in China for the entry and mid models with the 800’s I *think* still manufactured in the UK. Kef is owned by GE Accoustics which is based in Hong Kong but Kef HQ is in Maidstone UK so I assume that’s where the R&D is. All manufacturing for Kef is in China. If UK built is important to you then maybe ATC? R

rainsoothe

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Apr 30, 2012 903 437 19,270 Fwiw, Rega's QC is abysmal, so country of manufacture should mean nothing. Design philosophy is another matter, but even then generalizations shouldn't be made. D

daytona600

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Oct 5, 2012 1,604 1,280 21,570
Sliced Bread said: Bowers & Wilkins parent company DEI Holding is American, but the speakers are designed in Britain. Manufacturing is in China for the entry and mid models with the 800’s I *think* still manufactured in the UK. B&W is owned by sounds united in the USA & probably biggest supplier in the world of Speakers Bowers & Wilkins has been acquired by Sound United LLC, parent company of Denon, Polk Audio, Marantz, Definitive Technology, Classé, and Boston Acoustics. Sound United Speakers are still made & designed in the UK from various suppliers Click to expand...
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Sliced Bread

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Jul 28, 2010 510 94 18,970 The 800 series is made in the uk:

B&W factory - B&W: Speaker Building the UK Way - The Audio Beat - www.TheAudioBeat.com

read audio reviews, ratings, and user opinions on audio equipment before you buy an audio system www.theaudiobeat.com But 600 and 700 are made in China: www.hifigear.co.uk

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