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• Thread starter Thread starter nh6080
• Start date Start date Mar 20, 2019

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nh6080

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Has any one any lwb new Holland’s like t7.235 or 250 could they tell me how they compare to the swb. What is power and comfort like in comparison to the SWB Models 0

007

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nh6080 said: Has any one any lwb new Holland’s like t7.235 or 250 could they tell me how they compare to the swb. What is power and comfort like in comparison to the SWB Models Click to expand...

can't compare for you but if buying one buy with manually spools N

nh6080

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Ye electric spools are a disasters have them on one of ours tractors, break your heart so they would 0

007

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nh6080 said: Ye electric spools are a disasters have them on one of ours tractors, break your heart so they would Click to expand...

a crime how new Holland can get away with selling a tractor with poor Electric spools like that

Win

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007 said: a crime how new Holland can get away with selling a tractor with poor Electric spools like that Click to expand...

What's the matter with them, don't here too many here complaining??

Heisenberg

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No comparison between lwb & swb long wheel base T7 out of this world comfort (always had double accumulator front suspension) savage power and tourq Re electric spools maybe just been lucky but not too many issues with the lwb tractors never ever had any issue with swb electric valves I know the swb tractors use Bosch electric spools and the lwb tractors use Racine electric valves I think the trouble with Racine valves is there are American made there for designed for American conditions

recycled

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007 said: a crime how new Holland can get away with selling a tractor with poor Electric spools like that Click to expand...

It's not NH there all problematic. Think its bosch that make most if them

recycled

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Heisenberg said: No comparison between lwb & swb long wheel base T7 out of this world comfort (always had double accumulator front suspension) Click to expand...

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nh6080

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Yeah that’s what I heard of alright Bosch spools were bad . Did not know lwb had different ones. Power wise is there big difference cause I had moved a friend of mines digger one day it was a t7.235 never chipped and I thought there was more poke pulling the road in my 6080 which is chipped J

jcb411abuser

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recycled said: It's not NH there all problematic. Think its bosch that make most if them Click to expand...

Are they all problematic though? John Deere have been using them as standard in their larger tractors since the 8000 series and no real problems of note. Plus they can be repaired. J

jcb411abuser

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I suppose I can compare, so we talking t7.200 compared to t7.235? I can't really describe one as more comfortable that the other I find little difference if I'm honest. The view out the cab is the same. Much more power and weight in the 235 than the 200, a 2000gal tanker is nothing to the 235 uphill downhill the road wherever. 200 isn't bad but 235 is a different animal. Larger diameter tires on the 235 give better grip and floatation aswell. It's just a bigger tractor it can do more quicker. Also there is no significant difference in manouverability between the 2 either. I'm not sure how bad the new electronic spool valves are for reliability but there are only 2 of the rear spools working properly on the 235 right now. Think it's mostly cables stretched though, not floating or won't pressure in one direction are the issues. N

nh6080

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Thanks for that , have to say I found my friends t7.235 way ahead of my 6080 for comfort but was surprised with power I’d nearly say my 6080 was better pulling digger on hills than the t7 ,although my 6080 is mapper a right bit an t7 wasn’t , its power command . Very comfortable and handled digger weight wise a lot comfortable than mine

scoffcruddle

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Whats the wheelbase of both the swb and lwb? J

jcb411abuser

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scoffcruddle said: Whats the wheelbase of both the swb and lwb? Click to expand...

278cm v 288cm for swb and lwb respectively. Both with suspension I think

scoffcruddle

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jcb411abuser said: 278cm v 288cm for swb and lwb respectively. Both with suspension I think Click to expand...

Not a great deal. A 6cyl Valtra was only 100mm more than my four pot N141.

Heisenberg

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A T6080 vs a T7.235 I don’t care how much remapping or electronic f**kery has taken place simple fact although they share the same block and pistons there are different injectors / ECU / intercooler etc etc they will always have a vastly different power / tourqe curve plus the lwb machine is just bigger and heavier even has twin brake discs in the back if she’s 50k T7 bigger stronger tractor made for big work J

jcb411abuser

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nh6080 said: Thanks for that , have to say I found my friends t7.235 way ahead of my 6080 for comfort but was surprised with power I’d nearly say my 6080 was better pulling digger on hills than the t7 ,although my 6080 is mapper a right bit an t7 wasn’t , its power command . Very comfortable and handled digger weight wise a lot comfortable than mine Click to expand...

Honestly comfort has an awful lot to do with tyre pressure, ballast, and seat settings. Age of the tractor and condition of suspension system would also be more important. We're only talking 4 inches of difference in wheelbase can't see it making much odds and I haven't seen it making any difference myself.

laoisfarmer

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Had a t6080 that’s was well chipped , gave a lot of trouble , replaced with a new t7.200 which was also chipped (which I did not know about) also gave a lot of trouble, it was replaced after a year with a t7.235 . Completely different tractor did 5000 hrs in 3 years and gave very little trouble , I think all that happened it was a wiring loom rubbing somewhere. If looking at new Holland again it would always be a long wheel base , they have as good if not a bit better steering lock heavier back end and bigger brakes that never gave any trouble. They are also easier on fuel than the t7.200 if doing similar work because they are at there ease. If it’s a short wheel base I would be pulling the brakes every 1000 hrs regardless of work done because when they go it’s expensive.

Ó hÉidin

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jcb411abuser said: Honestly comfort has an awful lot to do with tyre pressure, ballast, and seat settings. Age of the tractor and condition of suspension system would also be more important. We're only talking 4 inches of difference in wheelbase can't see it making much odds and I haven't seen it making any difference myself. Click to expand...

Completely different suspension systems on SWB vs LWB, thats where the majority of difference in comfort comes from.

recycled

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when you put these bigger tractors up againts the chipped lightweights on the road the tend to be fairly unimpressive , get them in a field doing heavy draught work and then you see the differance

diesel power

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recycled said: when you put these bigger tractors up againts the chipped lightweights on the road the tend to be fairly unimpressive , get them in a field doing heavy draught work and then you see the differance Click to expand...

Bit different to electronic injection systems but I know of and have driven a NH8360 that would pull a TM165 around a field backwards. It's been turned up a tad and until the turbo spools up it drives black smoke into the clouds. Savage tractor to pull and on silage duty it out performs it's much younger TM counterparts. M

mixedbag

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Any chance you’d post the dealers involved in the clocking incident so I can avoid? N

nh6080

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Not yet want to investigate first more because found out tractor did get new cab under insurance around the time told to me. Waiting to get contact to previous owner N

nh6080

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I am not posting anymore on the topic anyway due to comments from certain members on this N

nh6080

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Yeah I actually just done a test this eve where he called with his tractor and we pulled digger up same hill and I went up it a gear higher in 16th gear and he went in 15th. My 6080 gave a world of gearbox bother thought maybe cause it’s mapped too much. Or why would his LWB seem a bit dead. Be interesting to put them on dyno. No comparison in comfort though, would consider buying a t7 lwb in next few months to handle more weight in field. Had looked at a John Deere 175 lately but like these t7 after driving lately

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