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Power Harrow Pilot

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East Yorkshire Feb 19, 2013 799 233 33 Has anyone any experience of the above models or their new equivalent, look good value for the 400ac man like me!!

Llewellyn93

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South Shropshire Apr 4, 2013 346 520 70 32 Running a Cx6080 which is the equivalent I think. It cuts 1200 acres of w.barley, s.barley, rape, oats and wheat. Will easy do your bit I average about 50 acres a day over all the crops.

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Arable Farmer Cirencester Jun 3, 2013 9,194 16,057 204 Run a CX6080 here too on 900 acres (do some contract cutting) and goes well. I did talk to one of the NH mechanics and he advised against buying a CSX, said they were a bit fragile. I assumed they were a souped up version of a TX but apparently not. Maybe worth having a word with someone who works on them. I guess the CX we run is an improved version of the CSX?? I don't know but it hasn't fallen apart yet although do note it is not built like an old TX 65+ we used to have, paintwork not great on it either.

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Steevo

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Gloucestershire Jan 22, 2013 29,408 44,973 165 Tried on about 2 years ago. It compared more to our old TC56 in terms of output and design and was a significantly slower machine than the CX820 we currently have. Impressed the above are getting on well with their CX6080s though. L

Lincsman

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Arable Farmer Lincolnshire Feb 15, 2013 11,696 11,210 177 Had a demo, didnt buy as it was way behind the TX66, they are 1980's 8080's in new panels.

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Llewellyn93

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South Shropshire Apr 4, 2013 346 520 70 32 It's the only combine I've ever driven so it's all I know. But the CX8000 looks to be a better built combine. Saying that ours is on its 3rd season and touch wood going well.

Steevo

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Gloucestershire Jan 22, 2013 29,408 44,973 165 CX800/8000 are a big step forward in having roto-threshers rather than taking the grain separated from the straw that's too big for lower sieve and returning it to the drum where it gets mixed back long with the straw again, making the combine repeat the job it's already done. L

Lincsman

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Arable Farmer Lincolnshire Feb 15, 2013 11,696 11,210 177

Steevo said: CX800/8000 are a big step forward in having roto-threshers rather than taking the grain separated from the straw that's too big for lower sieve and returning it to the drum where it gets mixed back long with the straw again, making the combine repeat the job it's already done. Click to expand...

That was a TF then tx invention of the late 1980s, not many makers have caught up with that yet.

Steevo

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Gloucestershire Jan 22, 2013 29,408 44,973 165

Lincsman said: That was a TF then tx invention of the late 1980s, not many makers have caught up with that yet. Click to expand...

Very true! Was one reason we stuck with NH rather than Claas.

Llewellyn93

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South Shropshire Apr 4, 2013 346 520 70 32

Steevo said: CX800/8000 are a big step forward in having roto-threshers rather than taking the grain separated from the straw that's too big for lower sieve and returning it to the drum where it gets mixed back long with the straw again, making the combine repeat the job it's already done. Click to expand...

Yeah it does slow the process down a bit with the opti-thresh, as you say the returns are always full which does effect the forward speed.

MrNoo

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Arable Farmer Cirencester Jun 3, 2013 9,194 16,057 204 Yes, did note compared to our old TX, but it fair covers the ground compared to the TX65+ we had. On the whole though I am very pleased with it, not had any issues, nice to drive and does the job. Couldn't afford not to change as they offered us a very good deal and the TX was getting on and the CX was 2nd hand (with 200hrs on it) and a decent price. It should see me out (with luck!)

tr250

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Northants Feb 15, 2013 6,811 5,897 147

Steevo said: CX800/8000 are a big step forward in having roto-threshers rather than taking the grain separated from the straw that's too big for lower sieve and returning it to the drum where it gets mixed back long with the straw again, making the combine repeat the job it's already done. Click to expand...

I'm a claas man so explain please the way I read it there is some way to thresh returns other than Back on the front?

Salopian_Will

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Mixed Farmer Shropshire Feb 13, 2013 1,887 2,352 151

tr250 said: I'm a claas man so explain please the way I read it there is some way to thresh returns other than Back on the front? Click to expand...

On a NH there are roto threshers on the bottom of the returns which do a bit more thrashing. The returns then go the sieves as opposed to going back, unthreshed, into the drum.

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Steevo

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Gloucestershire Jan 22, 2013 29,408 44,973 165

tr250 said: I'm a claas man so explain please the way I read it there is some way to thresh returns other than Back on the front? Click to expand...

Correct! Instead of an elevator back to the front of the drum there's a pair of rethreshing augers each side that beat it and then return it back to the ok sieve to try again. If you think of it like a flow diagram. retuning them to the drum goes back two stages (concave separation and too sieve separation). If you can rethresh the grains independently from the drum you only go back one stage.

tr250

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Northants Feb 15, 2013 6,811 5,897 147

WillB said: On a NH there are roto threshers on the bottom of the returns which do a bit more thrashing. The returns then go the sieves as opposed to going back, unthreshed, into the drum. Click to expand...

That sounds good so in theory loose less over walkers I try to run returns as low as poss for this reason sieves are easy but have little control over walkers

David.

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Mixed Farmer J11 M40 Feb 13, 2013 22,966 44,310 204 A bit like proper Massey combines did from the 1960s onwards then. :rolleyes:

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Steevo

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Gloucestershire Jan 22, 2013 29,408 44,973 165

tr250 said: That sounds good so in theory loose less over walkers I try to run returns as low as poss for this reason sieves are easy but have little control over walkers Click to expand...

Correct

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bert

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Mixed Farmer n.yorks Jul 7, 2013 1,263 1,890 117 34 Should help keep the sample cleaner as well i would think

bluepower

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Livestock Farmer mid devon somewhere Feb 24, 2013 1,038 2,218 169 65

bert said: Should help keep the sample cleaner as well i would think Click to expand...

I have changed from a Lexion 430 of 15 years vintage to a CSX 7060 this season. The main reason for going away from Claas was the price of parts and the arrogant attitude of the dealer. I did not know what to expect of the NH but I am not dissapointed. The NH has a variflow header which works really well and the whole combine feels very solidly built. The return to concave issue means that it operates in exactly the same way as a Claas which people seem to rave about. The smart sieve works better than the 3D on a Claas so no problem there either. The NH does not have as much electric technology as the Claas but it all works fine. Gadgets such as electric sieves are all fine until the motor goes wrong then they cost a fortune to repair. The build quality of the NH is pretty good imo and is certainly stronger in places than the Claas. I dont feel I would describe it as fragile. I found that there was quite a bit of snobbery when asking independant combine dealers about CSX combines-poor output, poor build quality etc but then they say the same about CX combines as well., although they never drive or run them themselves. I am sure that a CX 8000 combine is better but then again a lot more money. In summary I am not dissapointed compared to the Claas and would not be afraid of buying another one -nice simple mechanics and cheaper service parts make this a lot cheaper to run than a Claas.

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Power Harrow Pilot

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East Yorkshire Feb 19, 2013 799 233 33 Been speaking to NH fitters and salesmen, nobody in the trade seems to like them, or is this just because they are not the £350k monster that will do 1000ac/ day?????

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