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Holoholo55

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Subscribing Member Joined Aug 13, 2014 Messages 7,310 Location Honolulu, HI Real Name Walter My friend and I looked at this posting on 43rumors.com and it looks like the changes are primarily cosmetic. Especially when he compared his Panasonic 45-200 to the photo of the 45-200 II. Looks almost identical except for cosmetics. Anybody know if there any significant improvements? (FT5) First images of the new II lens version – 43 Rumors

Turbofrog

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Joined Mar 21, 2014 Messages 5,360 Panasonic updates four lenses, improving autofocus and image stabilization Nope! Looks like they updated everything except the optics - improved autofocus, improved aperture mechanism (i.e. hopefully no more burst shooting hangups with the 100-300), improved image stabilization, and now they are all weather-sealed as well! And even the optics might be improved with new coatings. I'm really impressed at how thorough the changes are, actually, considering everything is getting released all at once. Really good news for mid-range shooters.

Holoholo55

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Subscribing Member Joined Aug 13, 2014 Messages 7,310 Location Honolulu, HI Real Name Walter More info from Panasonic website. Looks like weathersealing added and new focus motors. No optical changes highlighted. overview NEW! LUMIX G VARIO Lens, 45-200mm, F4.0-5.6 II, Mirrorless Micro Four Thirds Mount, POWER Optical I.S. - H-FSA45200 Details LUMIX G VARIO Lens, 45-200mm - H-FSA45200 - Panasonic US H-FSA45200 write a review Features

• Updated Panasonic LUMIX 45-200mm zoom lens replaces H-FS045200.
• 70-100mm F4.0-5.6 (3 UED)
• Upgraded support for harsh weather conditions (Splashproof / Dustproof).
• Panasonic POWER O.I.S. compatible with LUMIX Dual I.S. 2.0 LUMIX Mirrorless cameras.
• Faster focus tracking via a 240 fps linear motor. (what does fps mean here? feet per second?)

$449.99 Pre-Order / Estimated Ship Date: February ----- Not sure what changed here. NEW! LUMIX G X VARIO Professional Lens, 12-35mm, F2.8 II ASPH., Mirrorless Micro Four Thirds Mount, POWER Optical I.S. - H-HSA12035 Details LUMIX G X VARIO Professional Lens, 12-35mm - H-HSA12035 - Panasonic US H-HSA12035 write a review Features

• Professional high-quality X Series optics with Panasonic’s Nano Surface Coating. (4 ASPH / 1 UED / 1 UHR)
• 3X Optical 24-70mm F2.8 Constant Aperture.
• Durability metal body for various weather conditions (Splashproof / Dustproof / Freezeproof).
• Panasonic POWER O.I.S. compatible with LUMIX Dual I.S. 2.0 LUMIX Mirrorless cameras.
• Fast focus tracking via a 240 fps linear motor.

$999.99 Pre-Order / Estimated Ship Date: March ----- NEW! LUMIX G X VARIO Professional Lens, 35-100mm, F2.8 II ASPH., Mirrorless Micro Four Thirds Mount, POWER Optical I.S. - H-HSA35100 Details LUMIX G X VARIO Professional Lens, 35-100mm - H-HSA35100 - Panasonic US H-HSA35100 write a review Features

• Professional high-quality X Series optics with Panasonic’s Nano Surface Coating. (2 ED / 1 UED)
• 2.86X Optical 70-100mm F2.8 Constant Aperture.
• Durability metal body for various weather conditions (Splashproof / Dustproof / Freezeproof).
• Panasonic POWER O.I.S. compatible with LUMIX Dual I.S. 2.0 LUMIX Mirrorless cameras.
• Fast focus tracking via a 240 fps linear motor.

$1,099.99 Pre-Order / Estimated Ship Date: March ---------- NEW! LUMIX G VARIO Lens, 100-300mm, F4.0-5.6 II, Mirrorless Micro Four Thirds Mount, POWER Optical I.S. - H-FSA100300 Details LUMIX G VARIO Lens, 100-300mm - H-FSA100300 - Panasonic US H-FSA100300 write a review Features

• Updated Panasonic LUMIX 100-300mm zoom lens replaces H-FS100300.
• 100-300mm F4.0-5.6 (1 ED)
• Upgraded support for harsh weather conditions (Splashproof / Dustproof).
• Panasonic POWER O.I.S. compatible with LUMIX Dual I.S. 2.0 LUMIX Mirrorless cameras.
• Faster focus tracking via a 240 fps linear motor.

$649.99 Pre-Order / Estimated Ship Date: February

nstelemark

Originally E.V.I.L.

Subscribing Member Joined May 28, 2013 Messages 3,986 Location Halifax, Nova Scotia Canada Real Name Larry It looks like they have moved to PowerOIS across the board to allow dualIS.

nstelemark

Originally E.V.I.L.

Subscribing Member Joined May 28, 2013 Messages 3,986 Location Halifax, Nova Scotia Canada Real Name Larry This is a fairly significant change:

• Fast focus tracking via a 240 fps linear motor.

Pluttis

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Joined Nov 14, 2016 Messages 1,003 Location Sweden Real Name Peter Panasonic updates four lenses, improving autofocus and image stabilization

Hypilein

Mu-43 All-Pro

Joined Mar 18, 2015 Messages 1,782 I'm impressed. They even added weather sealing. Looks like I won't need a 100-400. 9

994

Mu-43 Legend

Joined Feb 19, 2010 Messages 7,486 As I stated in another thread, I like this release, because it is likely the lenses on the market will see a price drop. If the 100-300 mk1 reaches $250, I might have to get one again!

ijm5012

Mu-43 Legend

Joined Oct 2, 2013 Messages 7,990 Location Pittsburgh, PA Real Name Ian Whoa, the 100-300 is now weather sealed, and should be capable of delivering fast burst shooting when using C-AF. At $650, it certainly seems like a steal and has me VERY interested.

Turbofrog

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Joined Mar 21, 2014 Messages 5,360

ijm5012 said: Whoa, the 100-300 is now weather sealed, and should be capable of delivering fast burst shooting when using C-AF. At $650, it certainly seems like a steal and has me VERY interested. Click to expand...

Yep. It looks like it's addressed all of its disadvantages against the Olympus 75-300, and now has the faster aperture and weather-sealing as bonus. Looks like very good value now. Hopefully sample variation is a bit better on this new lens, or the revised coatings are able to improve things optically a bit.

DanS

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Joined Mar 8, 2016 Messages 1,915 I Just finished reading through the CES press release kit, tand saw the following. CES 2017 Press Kit and they did a crap ton of upgrades. I bolded what i thought was important, including the prices, that don't look that bad.

LAS VEGAS, NV (JANUARY 4, 2017) – Panasonic is renewing four LUMIX G digital interchangeable lenses to gain higher performance and mobility: the LUMIX G X VARIO 12-35mm / F2.8 II ASPH. / POWER O.I.S. (H-HSA12035), LUMIX G X VARIO 35-100mm / F2.8 II / POWER O.I.S. (H-HSA35100), LUMIX G VARIO 45-200mm / F4.0-5.6 II / POWER O.I.S. (H-FSA45200) and LUMIX G VARIO 100-300mm / F4.0-5.6 II / POWER O.I.S. (H-FSA100300). All of these new lenses comply with the advanced functions of the latest LUMIX G digital cameras. In addition to the POWER O.I.S. (Optical Image Stabilizer) in each lens, they work with Dual I.S. (Image Stabilizer)*1, 5-axis Dual I.S.*2, and 5-axis Dual I.S.2*3 system when mounted on an applicable Panasonic LUMIX DSLM (Digital Single Lens Mirrorless) camera. The LUMIX G VARIO 45-200mm / F4.0-5.6 II / POWER O.I.S. (H-FSA45200) and LUMIX G VARIO 100-300mm / F4.0-5.6 II / POWER O.I.S. (H-FSA100300) boast dust/splash-proof durability. A total of nine lenses in the full LUMIX G lens lineup now feature a rugged design to withstand use under harsh conditions. Notably, the new lenses excel in video recording performance. In addition to the silent operation achieved by the inner focus drive system, the micro-step drive system in the aperture control section helps the camera to smoothly capture the brightness changes when zooming or panning. The AF tracking performance when zooming is also improved thanks to high-speed frame analysis for focus control. The LUMIX G VARIO 45-200mm / F4.0-5.6 II / POWER O.I.S. (H-FSA45200) and LUMIX G VARIO 100-300mm / F4.0-5.6 II / POWER O.I.S. (H-FSA100300) now complies with the sensor drive at max. 240-fps to take full advantage of cameras with high-speed, high-precision Contrast AF. Click to expand...

LUMIX G X VARIO 12-35mm / F2.8 II ASPH. / POWER O.I.S. (H-HSA12035) *A successor to the H-HS12035 ・Versatile usage ranging from portraits and landscape to street photography. ・Achieves handheld shooting without using a flash thanks to the F2.8 high-speed aperture and 5-axis Dual I.S.2. even in low-lit situations, including indoors. ・Splash/dust-proof and freeze-proof down to -10℃ with a rugged design for heavy field use. ・Supports high-quality video recording(as described above). ・The lens system comprises 14 elements in 9 groups including 4 aspherical lenses with 5 aspherical surfaces, 1 UHR(Ultra High Refractive Index) lens and 1 UED (Ultra Extra-Low Dispersion) lens. ・Panasonic’s black box technology Nano Surface Coating is applied to minimize ghosts and flaring. ・Max.240-fps sensor drive for high-speed, high-performance AF. The HSA12035 will be available in black for $999.99 in March. Click to expand...

LUMIX G X VARIO 35-100mm / F2.8 II / POWER O.I.S. (H-HSA35100) *A successor to the H-HS35100 ・Allows high-speed shutter release, and provides beautiful defocus effect in portrait or close-up shots. ・Achieves handheld shooting without using a flash thanks to the F2.8 wide aperture and 5-axis Dual I.S.2. even in low-lit situations including indoors. ・Splash/dust -proof and freeze-proof down to -10℃ with a rugged design for heavy field use. ・Supports high quality video recording(as described above). ・The lens system comprises 18 elements in 13 groups including 1 UED (Ultra Extra-Low Dispersion) lens and 2 ED (Extra-Low Dispersion) lenses. ・Panasonic’s black box technology Nano Surface Coating is applied to minimize ghosts and flaring. ・Max.240-fps sensor drive for high-speed, high-performance AF. ・No front lens rotation/ length extension in zooming. The HSA35100 will be available in black for $1099.99 in March. Click to expand...

LUMIX G VARIO 45-200mm / F4.0-5.6 II / POWER O.I.S. (H-FSA45200) *A successor to the H-FS045200 ・Achieves handheld telephoto shooting with POWER O.I.S. and 5-axis Dual I.S.2. ・Max.240-fps sensor drive for high-speed, high-performance AF. ・Rugged, splash/dust-proof design for heavy field use. ・Supports high-quality video recording(as described above). ・The lens system comprises 16 elements in 13 groups including 3 ED (Extra-Low Dispersion) lenses. ・Multi coating to minimize ghosts and flaring. The FSA45200 will be available in black for $449.99 in February. Click to expand...

LUMIX G VARIO 100-300mm / F4.0-5.6 II / POWER O.I.S. (H-FSA100300) *A successor to the H-FS100300 ・Achieves handheld telephoto shooting with POWER O.I.S. and 5-axis Dual I.S.2. ・Max.240-fps sensor drive for high-speed, high-performance AF. ・Rugged, splash/dust-proof design for heavy field use. ・Supports high-quality video recording(as described above). ・The lens system comprises 17 elements in 12 groups including 1 ED (Extra-Low Dispersion) lens. ・Multi coating to minimize ghosts and flaring. The FSA100300 will be available in black for $649.99 in February Click to expand...

Holoholo55

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Subscribing Member Joined Aug 13, 2014 Messages 7,310 Location Honolulu, HI Real Name Walter Well, in my experience, the old Pana 45-200 wasn't much good wider than f8. I used it quite a bit shooting kids soccer games, which I shot at f8 anyway, but it felt like half the aperture range wasn't usable. That's why I replaced it with a Zuiko ED 50-200 SWD. The weathersealing and improved AF and IS are welcome upgrades, but I was hoping for a bit more. I guess they didn't want to make big optical changes when they have a line of Leica lenses coming out in similar ranges, so as not to cannibalize those sales. Compared the specs of the old 45-200 and the 45-200 II. Both 16 elements in 13 groups. Aside from improved coatings, probably no optical changes. Last edited: Jan 4, 2017

Hypilein

Mu-43 All-Pro

Joined Mar 18, 2015 Messages 1,782 The 45-200 certainly doesn't seem that appealing still, but the 100-300 sounds amazing now. I know that loads of people say that it's not the sharpest lens of all time, but 600mm equiv is difficult and I've seen some stellar shots with it. My parents have one, and sharpness is not the issue. It's motion blur and getting the things in focus. Improving the OIS and focus unit makes this a really impressive budget super tele.

Repp

Mu-43 All-Pro

Joined Jan 27, 2011 Messages 1,397 Location Seoul, South Korea Considering the current 2.8 zooms are compatible with Dual IS, I wonder what advantage the Dual I.S.2 will make.

DanS

Mu-43 All-Pro

Joined Mar 8, 2016 Messages 1,915 I still bet they tweaked the optics a little, as i doubt the IS guts where a 1 to 1 swap.

Holoholo55

Old Timer

Subscribing Member Joined Aug 13, 2014 Messages 7,310 Location Honolulu, HI Real Name Walter

DanS said: I still bet they tweaked the optics a little, as i doubt the IS guts where a 1 to 1 swap. Click to expand...

Dunno, a change to the IS mechanism does not guarantee a change to the glass. Panasonic didn't say. If they had, I bet they would have said something.

DanS

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Joined Mar 8, 2016 Messages 1,915

Holoholo55 said: Dunno, a change to the IS mechanism does not guarantee a change to the glass. Panasonic didn't say. If they had, I bet they would have said something. Click to expand...

hopefully one of the lens test sites will get a new one and let us know.

Holoholo55

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Subscribing Member Joined Aug 13, 2014 Messages 7,310 Location Honolulu, HI Real Name Walter Here's the posting from imaging-resource.com. Panasonic announces new bridge superzoom, compact mirrorless, 12-60mm f/2.8-4.0 lens and more

ijm5012

Mu-43 Legend

Joined Oct 2, 2013 Messages 7,990 Location Pittsburgh, PA Real Name Ian

Hypilein said: The 100-300 sounds amazing now. I know that loads of people say that it's not the sharpest lens of all time, but 600mm equiv is difficult and I've seen some stellar shots with it. My parents have one, and sharpness is not the issue. It's motion blur and getting the things in focus. Improving the OIS and focus unit makes this a really impressive budget super tele. Click to expand...

Couldn't agree more. I owned a 100-300 previously, but between the build quality, lack of weather sealing, older OIS, and slow aperture mechanism that limited its usefulness for C-AF shooting, I sold it and bought a 50-200 SWD + 1.4x TC. It addressed all of my issues with the 100-300. However, it now seems that the 100-300 II has addressed all previous complaints (hopefully they've fixed the "sticky" zoom action). I definitely plan on renting one and putting it through its paces at an autorace this summer, and will likely compare it to the 50-200 SWD to see how well it performs. I've only purchased a few lenses brand new in the past, but if the lens performs as expected, I may pick one up since the price is supposed to only be $650.

DanS

Mu-43 All-Pro

Joined Mar 8, 2016 Messages 1,915

ijm5012 said: However, it now seems that the 100-300 II has addressed all previous complaints (hopefully they've fixed the "sticky" zoom action). I definitely plan on renting one and putting it through its paces at an autorace this summer, and will likely compare it to the 50-200 SWD to see how well it performs. I've only purchased a few lenses brand new in the past, but if the lens performs as expected, I may pick one up since the price is supposed to only be $650. Click to expand...

Please do a little write-up if you do the comparison.

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