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Just a curious question for the mobile platform, what is the difference between gtx gpus and gt gpus? Besides more power why dont gt gpus have all the features that gtx gpus have? Is it a thing with the gpu, or is it just the fact that it isnt a "gtx"

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Just a curious question for the mobile platform, what is the difference between gtx gpus and gt gpus? Besides more power why dont gt gpus have all the features that gtx gpus have? Is it a thing with the gpu, or is it just the fact that it isnt a "gtx"

GTX GPUs are higher performance models then the GTs

GT chips are generally designed for only casual gaming, decent framerates at 720p/768p at low-medium settings

GTX chips are designed to run demanding games at higher settings while still having good framerates, 1080p at medium or higher settings.

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GTX is for gaming GT is for videos and web browsing.

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Nope. They are super underpowered. I have one. IT IS PATHETIC. I need to find whoever came up with these.

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GT is for the usual consumer, while GTX is for the people that want to play graphical demanding games.

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GT is low-end. GTX is mid-high-top tier

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Speaking of GT, what is the point of these anyway? A modern iGPU can do just as good as a low-end card.

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GT class mobile cards are meant as a budget alternative to integrated that is more capable of media related tasks and light gaming depending on the model whereas GTX class mobile cards are more powerful and capable of greater performance than the lower power GT options. The same can be said for the desktop GT cards with the addition that they are a cheap way to drive extra monitors and handy for upgrading an older PC with a low powered PSU as they only require PCIe power. Generally you will find GT class mobile GPU's on sub $800 laptops and GTX class mobile cards on more expensive ones.

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The naming is completely arbitrary, so there's no exact technical difference.  Just once it falls below a certain performance level, NVIDIA starts calling them GT instead of GTX.  Although I think they are abandoning that, and from now on just using GeForce GTX ### or plain GeForce ### from now on.

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Speaking of GT, what is the point of these anyway? A modern iGPU can do just as good as a low-end card.

Not all platforms have iGPUs.

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The naming is completely arbitrary, so there's no exact technical difference.  Just once it falls below a certain performance level, NVIDIA starts calling them GT instead of GTX.  Although I think they are abandoning that, and from now on just using GeForce GTX ### or plain GeForce ### from now on.

They better. I'm sick of the GT series.

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Not all platforms have iGPUs.

OK, let's see.

Let's consider all CPUs designed in 2012 or later to be modern.

As GT is for the lower-end, let's look at i3 and lower or A10 and lower.

• All LGA1150 and 1155 CPUs have onboard graphics.
• All mobile CPUs from Intel also have onboard graphics.
• AMD's A-series are all APUs with pretty good iGPUs.
• There are no mobile CPUs without onboard graphics from AMD.
• The AM1 platform is also all APUs.

This only leaves to the newer FM2 Athlon X2s, yet they are not widely used. And GT cards appear on lots of systems.

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OK, let's see.

Let's consider all CPUs designed in 2012 or later to be modern.

As GT is for the lower-end, let's look at i3 and lower or A10 and lower.

• All LGA1150 and 1155 CPUs have onboard graphics.
• All mobile CPUs from Intel also have onboard graphics.
• AMD's A-series are all APUs with pretty good iGPUs.
• There are no mobile CPUs without onboard graphics from AMD.
• The AM1 platform is also all APUs.

This only leaves to the newer FM2 Athlon X2s, yet they are not widely used. And GT cards appear on lots of systems.

Actually X79/X99 doesn't have integrated graphics either.  While it's a high-end platform, it's designed in part as a workstation platform, so before someone says "anyone using X79/X99 will have an expensive graphics card", not everyone using X79/X99 will have or need an expensive graphics card.  For example my brother's audio editing workstation.  It's not a super common need but these low end cards aren't entirely useless.

And why consider only 2012+?  Phenom II or anything else on AM3+ is still relevant in most scenarios.  Sure if you're a gamer you might want to upgrade from a Phenom II, but then again that's exactly the crowd these graphics cards aren't targeting, right?

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Actually X79/X99 doesn't have integrated graphics either.  While it's a high-end platform, it's designed in part as a workstation platform, so before someone says "anyone using X79/X99 will have an expensive graphics card", not everyone using X79/X99 will have or need an expensive graphics card.  For example my brother's audio editing workstation.  It's not a super common need but these low end cards aren't entirely useless.

 

And why consider only 2012+?  Phenom II or anything else on AM3+ is still relevant in most scenarios.  Sure if you're a gamer you might want to upgrade from a Phenom II, but then again that's exactly the crowd these graphics cards aren't targeting, right?

Hmm, good points. Most users of the high-end platform do need an expensive GPU. And I chose 2012+ because Sandy Bridge and Piledriver were released that year.

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Hmm, good points. Most users of the high-end platform do need an expensive GPU. And I chose 2012+ because Sandy Bridge and Piledriver were released that year.

Most, but not all And the reality is there are plenty of machines still running on pre-2012 platforms, you can't just ignore that segment.  It's easy to forget it's there because we don't see older platforms all too often around places like this forum, but these cards aren't meant for people like us to begin with

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 Although I think they are abandoning that, and from now on just using GeForce GTX ### or plain GeForce ### from now on.

Don't lose hope in GT: http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/140199-prepare-yourselves-the-three-new-behemoths-of-nvidia-are-here/

All LGA1150 and 1155 CPUs have onboard graphics.

There are xeons and core i cpus that don't have integrated graphics. 

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There are xeons and core i cpus that don't have integrated graphics. 

Knew about the Xeons but what Core i's don't have them?

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Knew about the Xeons but what Core i's don't have them?

An example would be the 3350p. I might be forgetting about some celerons or pentiums that don't have integrated graphics but none immediately come to mind. 

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An example would be the 3350p. I might be forgetting about some celerons or pentiums that don't have integrated graphics but none immediately come to mind. 

Oh, the P series. I've actually heard of them, but they didn't come to my mind. And all Celerons and Pentiums have unbranded Intel HD Graphics (GT1)

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Just a curious question for the mobile platform, what is the difference between gtx gpus and gt gpus? Besides more power why dont gt gpus have all the features that gtx gpus have? Is it a thing with the gpu, or is it just the fact that it isnt a "gtx"

evey thing lower than GTX x50(GTX x50m) are named GT. You should buy GTX not gt, because the on-board graphic(iGPU/APU) are as fast or faster than GT(on mobile).

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Actually X79/X99 doesn't have integrated graphics either.  While it's a high-end platform, it's designed in part as a workstation platform, so before someone says "anyone using X79/X99 will have an expensive graphics card", not everyone using X79/X99 will have or need an expensive graphics card.  For example my brother's audio editing workstation.  It's not a super common need but these low end cards aren't entirely useless.

 

And why consider only 2012+?  Phenom II or anything else on AM3+ is still relevant in most scenarios.  Sure if you're a gamer you might want to upgrade from a Phenom II, but then again that's exactly the crowd these graphics cards aren't targeting, right?

every single platform has had to be running with some kind of integrated graphics controller at the very least. Sure, if you're only talking about CPUs, then okay, but every single computer has one somewhere, even if it's just on the motherboard. Without it, your computer is virtually useless.

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evey thing lower than GTX x50(GTX x50m) are named GT. You should buy GTX not gt, because the on-board graphic(iGPU/APU) are as fast or faster than GT(on mobile).

I can vouch for this. And you can overclock the hell out of APUs and GTXs without much problem, whereas with low-end graphics cards, you simply don't have anything beyond a super-basic PCIe power delivery system, so if you try overclocking them, the GPU is more than likely to just toast.

I'm getting 1.3GHz out of my APU's GPU part with just an additional fan propped underneath. completely stable. This is a LAPTOP, bear in mind.

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GT = "Mainstream consumer"

GTX = "Mainstream gamer"

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every single platform has had to be running with some kind of integrated graphics controller at the very least. Sure, if you're only talking about CPUs, then okay, but every single computer has one somewhere, even if it's just on the motherboard. Without it, your computer is virtually useless.

No, not every one does.  AM3+ is a good example, only a few special chipsets such as 880G or 980G had an integrated GPU in the chipset.  The two main platforms, 970 and 990X/990FX have no integrated graphics capability whatsoever, anything using these platforms requires a dedicated graphics card.  If you can find me a single 970, 990X, or 990FX with a video-out port of any kind on the back, I'd like to see it though.

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No, not every one does.  AM3+ is a good example, only a few special chipsets such as 880G or 980G had an integrated GPU in the chipset.  The two main platforms, 970 and 990X/990FX have no integrated graphics capability whatsoever, anything using these platforms requires a dedicated graphics card.  If you can find me a single 970, 990X, or 990FX with a video-out port of any kind on the back, I'd like to see it though.

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