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alvinlee
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Verified Joined Dec 31, 2014 Messages 14 Reaction score 0 Location UK VCDS Serial number C?ID=281261 Hi People, My first post on here and after some advice. I bought a vw golf gti mk5 2008 on sunday evening but im having a issue with the key/cluster. The key is fully electronic with 3 buttons, it unlocks/locks the car and the car starts and drives like normal but on the cluster it shows the word 'SAFE' where the mileage should be displayed. No error codes have come up with a scan with VCDS except the airbags in the seats. message from VCDS: Address 15: Airbags Labels: 1K0-909-605.lbl Part No SW: 1K0 909 605 AB HW: 1K0 909 605 AB Component: 1C AIRBAG VW8R 034 8000 Revision: 05034000 Serial number: 003B6D0A3VLC Coding: 0012611 Shop #: WSC 01269 785 00200 VCID: 6CD0017C4FA88E2262-8038 Subsystem 1 - Serial number: 6332MSME3711543FA Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6342MSME2B612C71E Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 6352QSME506134152 Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 6362QSME41744001% 2 Faults Found: 01217 - Side Airbag Igniter; Driver Side (N199) 002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - MIL ON 01218 - Side Airbag Igniter; Passenger Side (N200) 002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - MIL ON I have a genuine VCDS cable running the latest software. Any help would be very much appreciated. Thanks in advance Sep 20, 2016 #2 MMartinsX
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Verified Joined Sep 5, 2016 Messages 1,248 Reaction score 1,324 Location Riga, Latvia VCDS Serial number C?ID=268515 Post complete autoscan, please. Airbag faults can't cause such message on Instrument panel. Sep 20, 2016 #3 Aalvinlee
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Verified Joined Dec 31, 2014 Messages 14 Reaction score 0 Location UK VCDS Serial number C?ID=281261 Code: copy Monday,19,September,2016,17:51:26:09081 VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64 VCDS Version: 16.8.1.3 (x64) Data version: 20160902 DS256 www.Ross-Tech.com VIN: WVWZZZ1KZ8W203802 License Plate: VK08 Mileage: 38000km-23612mi Repair Order: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Chassis Type: 1K (1K0) Scan: 01 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 25 37 42 44 46 52 55 56 62 72 VIN: WVWZZZ1KZ8W203802 Mileage: 38000km-23612miles 01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000 03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000 04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000 08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000 09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010 15-Airbags -- Status: Malfunction 0010 16-Steering wheel -- Status: Malfunction 0010 17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000 19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010 25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000 37-Navigation -- Status: Sporadic communication error 1000 42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000 44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000 46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000 52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000 55-Headlight Range -- Status: OK 0000 56-Radio -- Status: Sporadic communication error 1000 62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000 72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 01: Engine Labels: 06F-907-115-AXX.clb Part No SW: 1K0 907 115 Q HW: 8P0 907 115 B Component: 2.0l R4/4V TFSI 0020 Revision: 5BH16--- Serial number: VWX7Z0GD3N5844 Coding: 0403000318070060 Shop #: WSC 01269 785 00200 VCID: 3460D91C571816E27A-8060 No fault code found. Readiness: 0110 0101 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 1K0-907-379-MK60-F.lbl Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 AC HW: 1K0 907 379 AC Component: ESP FRONT MK60 0101 Revision: 00H11001 Coding: 0004738 Shop #: WSC 01269 785 00200 VCID: 73E21A00129651DAA3-8026 No fault code found. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 08: Auto HVAC Labels: 1K0-907-044.lbl Part No SW: 1K0 907 044 CQ HW: 1K0 907 044 CQ Component: ClimatronicPQ35 130 1212 Revision: 00130022 Serial number: 00000000000000 Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000 VCID: 78F82D2C0BF0328296-802C No fault code found. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 09: Cent. Elect. Labels: 3C0-937-049-30-H.lbl Part No SW: 3C0 937 049 AJ HW: 3C0 937 049 AJ Component: Bordnetz-SG H54 2202 Revision: 00H54000 Serial number: 00000007874834 Coding: E78F9F0700041500471400001400000080097F075C000100000000000000 Shop #: WSC 12345 785 00200 VCID: 71EE1008688A63CA51-8024 Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K2 955 119 E Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB Component: Wischer 051207 021 0501 Coding: 00038805 Shop #: WSC 12345 Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 955 559 AF Labels: 1K0-955-559-AF.CLB Component: RLS 131207 046 0204 Coding: 00208933 Shop #: WSC 12345 1 Fault Found: 02390 - Control / Regulation for Ambience Lighting (E400) 009 - Open or Short to Ground Freeze Frame: Fault Status: 01101001 Fault Priority: 5 Fault Frequency: 1 Reset counter: 136 Mileage: 38003 km Time Indication: 0 Date: 2005.09.13 Time: 31:63:63 Freeze Frame: ON Voltage: 12.05 V ON ON OFF OFF OFF ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 15: Airbags Labels: 1K0-909-605.lbl Part No SW: 1K0 909 605 AB HW: 1K0 909 605 AB Component: 1C AIRBAG VW8R 034 8000 Revision: 05034000 Serial number: 003B6D0A3VLC Coding: 0012611 Shop #: WSC 01269 785 00200 VCID: 6CD0017C4FA88E2262-8038 Subsystem 1 - Serial number: 6332MSME3711543FA Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6342MSME2B612C71E Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 6352QSME506134152 Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 6362QSME41744001% 2 Faults Found: 01217 - Side Airbag Igniter; Driver Side (N199) 002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - MIL ON 01218 - Side Airbag Igniter; Passenger Side (N200) 002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - MIL ON ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 16: Steering wheel Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY8.lbl Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 BP HW: 1K0 953 549 BP Component: J0527 051 0100 Coding: 0002012 Shop #: WSC 01269 785 00200 VCID: 010E40C8582A734AA1-8054 Subsystem 1 - Part No: XXXXXXXXXXX Component: E0221 002 0010 1 Fault Found: 00888 - Wiper Switch for Intermittent Operation (E22) 014 - Defective ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 17: Instruments Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-17.lbl Part No SW: 1K6 920 974 HW: 1K6 920 974 Component: KOMBIINSTRUMENT VDD 1216 Revision: V0002000 Serial number: VWX7Z0GD3N5844 Coding: 0005403 Shop #: WSC 23034 067 57207 VCID: 71EE1008688A63CA51-8024 No fault code found. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 19: CAN Gateway Labels: 1K0-907-530-V3.clb Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 L HW: 1K0 907 951 Component: J533 Gateway H07 0052 Revision: H07 01 Serial number: 271107F1000913 Coding: E9817F064002020003 Shop #: WSC 01269 785 00200 VCID: 3068D50CA3002AC21E-8064 2 Faults Found: 01300 - Control Module for Navigation with CD-Rom (J401) 004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent Freeze Frame: Fault Status: 00110100 Fault Priority: 2 Fault Frequency: 8 Reset counter: 176 Mileage: 37896 km Time Indication: 0 Date: 2000.00.00 Time: 18:01:15 01304 - Radio 004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent Freeze Frame: Fault Status: 00110100 Fault Priority: 2 Fault Frequency: 8 Reset counter: 176 Mileage: 37896 km Time Indication: 0 Date: 2000.00.00 Time: 18:01:15 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 25: Immobilizer Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.clb Part No SW: 1K6 920 974 HW: 1K6 920 974 Component: IMMO VDD 1216 Revision: V0002000 Serial number: VWX7Z0GD3N5844 Shop #: WSC 00096 210 88179 VCID: 71EE1008688A63CA51-8024 No fault code found. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 37: Navigation (J0506) Labels: 1T0-035-680.clb Part No SW: 1T0 035 680 A HW: 1T0 035 680 A Component: RNS-MID H04 1000 Revision: AB001001 Serial number: VWZ6Z7G6336111 Coding: 040104000400001200 Shop #: WSC 01316 785 00200 VCID: 2C50C17C4F284E2222-8078 No fault code found. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 42: Door Elect, Driver Labels: 1K0-959-701-MIN3.lbl Part No SW: 1K0 959 701 M HW: 1K0 959 701 M Component: Tuer-SG 006 1220 Coding: 0000692 Shop #: WSC 01269 785 00200 VCID: 3878ED2C4B70F28256-806C No fault code found. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 44: Steering Assist Labels: 1Kx-909-14x-44.clb Part No: 1K2 909 144 M Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl.074 H08 1901 Shop #: WSC 00000 028 00001 VCID: 3664E314416404F244-8062 No fault code found. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 46: Central Conv. Labels: 1K0-959-433-MAX.clb Part No SW: 1K0 959 433 BT HW: 1K0 959 433 BT Component: KSG PQ35 G2 020 0204 Revision: 00020000 Serial number: 00000000000000 Coding: 989008005103087F2D04840570089FC690FC00 Shop #: WSC 00096 210 88179 VCID: 03024AC04236615AB3-8056 Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 D Component: LIN BACKUP HORN H07 9001 Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 951 178 A Component: Neigungssensor 003 0203 Subsystem 3 - Part No: 1K0 951 178 A Component: Innenraumueberw.003 0203 No fault code found. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. Labels: 1K0-959-702-MIN3.lbl Part No SW: 1K0 959 702 M HW: 1K0 959 702 M Component: Tuer-SG 006 1204 Coding: 0000692 Shop #: WSC 01269 785 00200 VCID: 397EE828707AEB8AA9-806C No fault code found. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 55: Headlight Range Labels: 1T0-907-357.lbl Part No: 1T0 907 357 Component: Dynamische LWR 0003 Coding: 0000003 Shop #: WSC 01269 785 00200 VCID: 74E0191C179856E2BA-8020 No fault code found. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 56: Radio (J0506) Labels: 1T0-035-680.clb Part No SW: 1T0 035 680 A HW: 1T0 035 680 A Component: RNS-MID H04 1000 Revision: AB001001 Serial number: VWZ6Z7G6336111 Coding: 040104000400001200 Shop #: WSC 01316 785 00200 VCID: 2C50C17C4F284E2222-8078 No fault code found. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 62: Door, Rear Left Labels: 1K0-959-703-GEN3.lbl Part No SW: 1K0 959 703 K HW: 1K0 959 703 K Component: Tuer-SG 006 1207 Coding: 0000144 Shop #: WSC 01269 785 1012552 VCID: 3878ED2C4B70F28256-806C No fault code found. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 72: Door, Rear Right Labels: 1K0-959-704-GEN3.lbl Part No SW: 1K0 959 704 K HW: 1K0 959 704 K Component: Tuer-SG 006 1206 Coding: 0000144 Shop #: WSC 01269 785 1012552 VCID: 397EE828707AEB8AA9-806C No fault code found. End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 01:46)-------------------------- Last edited by a moderator: Sep 20, 2016 Sep 20, 2016 #4Spacewalker
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Verified Joined Jun 10, 2014 Messages 1,488 Reaction score 1,002 Location Poland VCDS Serial number C?ID=159607 SAFE = immo not unlocked if your car start - Immo is OFF in ECU if your cluster show SAFE - Key is not matched with cluster Errors - can be easy detele from ECU, cluster .... Sep 20, 2016 #5 Aalvinlee
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Verified Joined Dec 31, 2014 Messages 14 Reaction score 0 Location UK VCDS Serial number C?ID=281261 Thanks for the quick reply, How do i go about turning the immo back on? Thanks Sep 20, 2016 #6 MMartinsX
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Verified Joined Sep 5, 2016 Messages 1,248 Reaction score 1,324 Location Riga, Latvia VCDS Serial number C?ID=268515alvinlee said: Thanks for the quick reply, How do i go about turning the immo back on? Thanks Click to expand...Are You sure You want to? Sep 20, 2016 #7 A
alvinlee
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Verified Joined Dec 31, 2014 Messages 14 Reaction score 0 Location UK VCDS Serial number C?ID=281261 Is there anyway to get the word safe removed? I can't see the mileage on there.. If I turned it back on would that mean I need to get a new key programmed? Thanks Sep 20, 2016 #8 MMartinsX
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Verified Joined Sep 5, 2016 Messages 1,248 Reaction score 1,324 Location Riga, Latvia VCDS Serial number C?ID=268515 VCDS or whatever tool for routine diagnostics will be not enough to make Your car as it should be. And do not try to rectify comm fault between instrument panel and radio and navigation. You will get them locked then. Sep 21, 2016 #9 Aalvinlee
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Verified Joined Dec 31, 2014 Messages 14 Reaction score 0 Location UK VCDS Serial number C?ID=281261 Ok so who should I get to help rectify my problem on the speedo? Auto locksmith? Thanks Sep 21, 2016 #10Jetta 97
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Professional VCDS User Joined Apr 22, 2014 Messages 1,683 Reaction score 1,715 Location Dallas (McKinney) ,TX ,USA VCDS Serial number C?ID=81680alvinlee said: Ok so who should I get to help rectify my problem on the speedo? Auto locksmith? Thanks Click to expand...Yes , or someone who can program key for this car. Sep 21, 2016 #11 M
MartinsX
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Verified Joined Sep 5, 2016 Messages 1,248 Reaction score 1,324 Location Riga, Latvia VCDS Serial number C?ID=268515 Key programming only will not help. Sep 21, 2016 #12 Aalvinlee
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Verified Joined Dec 31, 2014 Messages 14 Reaction score 0 Location UK VCDS Serial number C?ID=281261 Do I need to get the immobiliser in the key recoded for the car? I know the central locking will not solved this issue but if I get the immobiliser recoded then it should be alright?? Thanks Sep 21, 2016 #13 MMartinsX
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Verified Joined Sep 5, 2016 Messages 1,248 Reaction score 1,324 Location Riga, Latvia VCDS Serial number C?ID=268515 Probably Your car is made from modules of several cars. At least Audio and Navigation is from one car, IPC and ECU and keys from another. Programming of immo, VIN etc. is not done correctly. Is it "immo off" for ECU, You can check if You disconnect IPC and try to start engine. If it starts and works without instruments, You have "immo off" programmed ECU. To make everything correct, You need someone with proper equipment and knowledge to reprogram all affected modules. It is possible, that some modules You'll have to replace. I can't say anything more exactly just by autoscan printout You posted. Sep 21, 2016 #14 Aalvinlee
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Verified Joined Dec 31, 2014 Messages 14 Reaction score 0 Location UK VCDS Serial number C?ID=281261 Ok thanks for the advice guys. I will try unplugging the IPC on saturday and see what happens. Looks like I most probably use a auto locksmith/ electrician to get this sorted. Thanks Sep 21, 2016 #15Spacewalker
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Verified Joined Jun 10, 2014 Messages 1,488 Reaction score 1,002 Location Poland VCDS Serial number C?ID=159607MartinsX said: Key programming only will not help. Click to expand...If he learn KEY to cluster - cluster will not longer show SAFE and all will look good But still IMMO is OFF so car can be start by Screw-driver Sep 21, 2016 #16 M
MartinsX
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Verified Joined Sep 5, 2016 Messages 1,248 Reaction score 1,324 Location Riga, Latvia VCDS Serial number C?ID=268515 His cluster recognizes key. Code: copy Address 17: Instruments Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-17.lbl Part No SW: 1K6 920 974 HW: 1K6 920 974 Component: KOMBIINSTRUMENT VDD 1216 Revision: V0002000 Serial number: VWX7Z0GD3N5844 Coding: 0005403 Shop #: WSC 23034 067 57207 VCID: 71EE1008688A63CA51-8024 No fault code found. Some of Immo related ID's of cluster do not match ID's of ECU. This is not Immo 2 or 3, not so simple
Sep 21, 2016 #17 A alvinlee
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Verified Joined Dec 31, 2014 Messages 14 Reaction score 0 Location UK VCDS Serial number C?ID=281261 So am i right in saying that i need to get the cluster coded/matched with the ECU? Sep 21, 2016 #18 MMartinsX
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Verified Joined Sep 5, 2016 Messages 1,248 Reaction score 1,324 Location Riga, Latvia VCDS Serial number C?ID=268515 You have to visit someone who is able to dig into it with some advanced tools. I can't give any more further suggestions without having Your car at my workshop. Any attempt to reprogram something in incorrect way may turn Your car into vegetable. I can't know what is done before and so I can't say what have to be repaired and how. Nowadays a lot of methods are used to cheat Immo systems. Each case is individual. Sep 21, 2016 #19NZDubNurd
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Verified Joined Nov 10, 2014 Messages 1,698 Reaction score 2,441 Location New Zealand VCDS Serial number C?ID=230482 And after all that, what do we think the REAL mileage on the car might be???
Sep 22, 2016 #20 A alvinlee
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Verified Joined Dec 31, 2014 Messages 14 Reaction score 0 Location UK VCDS Serial number C?ID=281261 Thanks very much Martin. Your advice has been brilliant. I'll ask somebody local to me to investigate for me. I checked the cars mileage via mot so it hopefully should be alright Status Not open for further replies. Share: Bluesky LinkedIn Share Link- Home
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