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‎03-26-2021 10:01 AM

HP Recommended Product: zBOOK G2 15 Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 (64-bit)

I am currently using a docking station that attaches to the BASE of the laptop and have started using the additional ports now available for the zBOOK such as SATA drives and USB ports.

Is it possible to have a second Docking Station simultaneously with the installed unit?

If so - please indicate what expansion features would now become available as well as speed and limitations etc.

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View All (3) I have the same question 8 REPLIES 8 Huffer Level 18 Huffer 49,202 15,089 7,926 3,591 Level 18

‎03-26-2021 11:44 AM

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You need to tell us the model of the dock you are using now.

Was this reply helpful? Yes No Richard__ Richard__ Author 12 0 0 3,586 Apprentice Level 2

‎03-26-2021 11:53 AM

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Product No. A7E38AA#ABA HP Advanced Docking Station US

Was this reply helpful? Yes No Huffer Level 18 Huffer 49,202 15,089 7,926 3,174 Level 18

‎03-26-2021 02:10 PM

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That product is using the single dedicated dock port. The only way to add another "dock" is with a USB 3.0 port and that would technically not be a dock, but a port replicator. What connections would you wish to have that your existing dock does not provide?

Was this reply helpful? Yes No Richard__ Richard__ Author 12 0 0 3,119 Apprentice Level 2

‎03-27-2021 12:31 AM

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My laptop has a Thunderbolt 2 port

From some internet research

Input and Output Port

The ZBook 15 sports one of the most comprehensive port arrays we’ve seen on a 15.6-inch notebook. Unlike most consumernotebooks, it includes a SmartCard slot, ExpressCard/54, a Thunderbolt 2 port and an internal optical drive. If the includedports aren’t enough or if you prefer the convenience of a desktop-like setup, the ZBook 15 features a dedicated dockingstation connector on the bottom which is compatible with HP’s docking station solutions. The HP Advanced Docking Stationsupports up to five independent displays.

AND

NOTE: NVIDIA Quadro mobile professional graphics support up to five independent displayswhen using an HP Advanced Docking station (sold separately). AMD FirePro™ professionalgraphics support up to five independent displays when using an HP Advanced Docking station(sold separately).Multi-Display Support• Without Docking Station:HP ZBook 15 without the use of a Docking Station supports up to a maximum of four independentdisplays. These four displays are the internal panel plus three external displays connected to theVGA, the DisplayPort (DP), and the Thunderbolt™ Port connectors. Need help? Feature Description• With Docking Station*:The Advanced Docking Station has VGA and four digital display output connectors (two DVI andtwo DP). Of those four digital display connectors, only two may be used at a time (two DVI, two DPor one DP and one DVI). When used together with the HP ZBook 15, a maximum of fiveindependent displays are supported. These five displays are the internal panel plus four externaldisplays connected to three display outputs connectors from the standard or Advanced DockingStation*, and the Thunderbolt™ connector from the ZBook.• DP 1.2 'daisy-chain' feature:On HP ZBook 15, the maximum number of independent displays is increased to six with the use ofDP1.2 “daisy-chain” feature. This requires Hybrid Graphics to be enabled, one monitor connectedto the dock VGA, and at least one daisy chain connection on (A) System DP, (B) Docking Station DP1, (C) Docking Station DP 2.NOTE: *Advanced docking station sold separately.DisplayInternal• 15.6" diagonal LED-backlit FHD SVA eDP anti-glare (1920 x 1080)• 15.6" diagonal LED-backlit FHD UWVA IPS eDP anti-glare + Panel Self Refresh (PSR) (1920 x1080)• 15.6" diagonal LED-backlit QHD+ UWVA IPS eDP anti-glare (3200 x 1800)External• Up to 32-bit per pixel color depthThunderbolt™ 2*Supported as part of the daisy chain connected with Intel approved thunderbolt cables. Foradditional information, please visit https://thunderbolttechnology.net/ .Thunderbolt Features• Legacy : DP 1.1a, DVI-A/D, HDMI and VGA displays attached to the end of the thunderbolt daisychain via Intel certified dongles.• DP 1.2 redrive: DisplayPort monitors capable of supporting DP 1.2 may be directly attached to theThunderbolt port to achieve HBR2 and MST functionality.• DP display with miniDP connector may be attached directly to TB (Thunderbolt) port.• DP display with standard DP connector and other legacy displays (HDMI, DVI, VGA) may beattached to TB with the use of a dongle.• DP1.2 MST feature ("daisy-chain" feature) is supported through TB port.NOTE: * Thunderbolt™ 2 is new technology. Install all the latest drivers for your Thunderboltdevice before connecting the device to the Thunderbolt port. Thunderbolt cable andThunderbolt device (sold separately) must be compatible with Windows. To determinewhether your device is Thunderbolt Certified for Windows, seehttps://thunderbolttechnology.net/products .DisplayPort w/MST (Multi-stream Transport)Supports resolutions up to QFHD 3840 x 2160, 24/30-bit color depth at 60 Hz, and WUXGA (1920x 1200) monitors, 24/30-bit color depth at 120 Hz.DisplayPort Feature• Multi-stream Transport (MST): Multi-stream Transport is a DP 1.2 feature that allows daisychaining of DP 1.2 monitors (requires built in support of DP 1.2 MST in monitor), or the use of DP1.2 hubs with MST to achieve 4 active displays without a docking station.VGAPort supports resolutions up to 2048 x 1536 at 75 Hz, and lower resolutions at up to 100 Hz.DVI-D (single link)Video signal available through DVI port in optional HP Docking Station (sold separately), as well asthrough DisplayPort to DVI-D; DisplayPort to DVI-D (dual link); and DisplayPort to HDMI adapters.Supports resolutions up to 1600 x 1200 at both full and reduced blanking, and 1920 x 1200 atreduced blanking.NOTE: Resolutions are dependent upon monitor capability, and resolution and color depthsettings.

So does this Thunderbolt 2 port ONLY supports Displays - or can I say for instance "daisy chain" additional SATA drives USB3 flash sticks and other USB devices, any other "gadgets"?

If I can use SATA and USB3 etc - how to describe the products needed compatible so I can try to source from eBAY, Amaon etc?

Of course - all of the above "assumes" that I can still permanently have the above mentioned HP product number Advanced Docking Station attached!

Was this reply helpful? Yes No Huffer Level 18 Huffer 49,202 15,089 7,926 3,106 Level 18

‎03-27-2021 05:36 AM

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I have the Zbook 15 G3 and had assumed the Thunderbolt was introduced with that model but further review of the G2 shows I missed the fact that it has a Thunderbolt 2 port as well.

Manual

Attaching the dock does not disable the Thunderbolt 2 port. You can use the DP 1.2 feature of the Thunderbolt 2 port to attach monitors or whatever devices it would otherwise support. The Advanced Dock connects using a different bus than the Thunderbolt 2 port. The Thunderbolt 2 port is actually a superior platform for docking; the Advanced Dock is a bit of a legacy product. So again, I ask what is your goal here? What do you want to connect with the Thunderbolt 2 port in addition to what is connected to the Advanced Dock?

Was this reply helpful? Yes No Richard__ Richard__ Author 12 0 0 3,091 Apprentice Level 2

‎03-27-2021 09:46 PM

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My goal is to have option to connect MORE devices in particular USB "gadgets".

Currently almost ALL usb ports on (zBOOK G2 + Advanced Docking Station) are "permanently" being used mainly by memory devices (USB flash drives, USB-SATA hybrid SSD memory, USB-PCIe hybrid memory, USB-SDHC hybrid memory), conventional mouse (in certain situations more suitable than Touch Pad), a USB spinning HHD, and a smart phone (in MTP mode), a few other "gadgets".

The Advanced Docking Station has been upgraded to have a "caddy" which allows me to have a SSD 2.5 inch (to complement the installed SSD in the laptop - which still has the optical DVD drive). The eSATA port of the advanced docking station is also being evaluated for suitability for another SSD.

I have a number of USB HHD which I will really want to connect simultaneously which now cannot "attach" (lack of free usb ports) - the intention is to file manage many Terabytes on the HDDs, what I really want, onto the new SSDs - this file management process many easily take me over a year (on and off) and would be easier for me to have more than one HDD at a time.

Currently I have two USB-2 hubs (very inexpensive models) - of which one has failed. Rather than investing in say USB-3 hubs - looking into options that MAY be a bit faster (thunderbolt 2 at 10GBytes/sec potential is interesting). Although thunderbolt 2 is more expensive than a usb-3 hub - on internet research there seems to be many "interesting" gadgets that use thunderbolt.

I found it confusing looking on eBAY (for instance) that there are different HP models of thunderbolt 2 docks - so far ALL of them connect to a dedicated USB-c port of the computer (if I understood correctly) . My zBOOK G2 15 thunderbolt 2 port does NOT allow a common USB-c cable to plug in - on eBay they all seem to connect via a dedicated USB-c.

Assuming I go thunderbolt 2 way - via "daisy chaining" to the HP thunderbolt 2 DOCK port (old style connector ???)- maybe get thunderbolt 3+ "gadgets" (I do not know if these will work with version 2). So far, I cannot find any old-style thunderbolt 2 to usb-c thunderbolt 3 adapters which I think that I will need for future thunderbolt 3+ products. Of course, even if 3+ products will work, I would not get the higher speeds and power capability.

Your comments would be appreciated.

Was this reply helpful? Yes No Richard__ Richard__ Author 12 0 0 3,075 Apprentice Level 2

‎03-28-2021 01:43 AM

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Some further information from my internet searches:-

Is the HP 2SU51AV#ABA thunderbolt 2 docking station the item I am after (have not got HP full specifications on same).

Interestingly, it appears (correct me if I am wrong please) that on my laptop the thunderbolt 2 port is :-

Mini Display Port type of connector (and Apple also had used same)

Apparently a

Mini Display Port (MALE) to USB-c (MALE) cable (which is relatively cheap on eBAY etc) WILL NOT SUPPORT BI-DIRECTIONAL DATA TRANSFER - a number of suppliers have mentioned that their cables are uni-directional only.

So I gather that buying just the above mentioned cable (with a F USB-c to USB-c F adapter) would not turn my thunderbolt2 port into a bi-directional USB-c port (from which I had hoped that a USB-c HUB would be a cheaper port replicator alternative to HP thunderbolt 2 Dock - using the now unused thunderbolt 2 port).

On your HP zBOOK G3 - can a USB-C cable plug into the thunderbolt port - same cannot do so on zBOOK G2?

Was this reply helpful? Yes No Huffer Level 18 Huffer 49,202 15,089 7,926 3,060 Level 18

‎03-28-2021 05:17 AM

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Yes my Zbook 15 G3 has a USB-C style Thunderbolt 3 not Thunderbolt 2. I was perhaps more correct with the first answer. Yours is a mini-display port form factor. Theoretically, the Thunderbolt 2 port should allow connection of up to 6 peripheral devices like storage. It seems you want to have a massive number of storage drives attached and are running into a limited number of connections and probably limited bandwidth. I might suggest something like this. A multidrive external Thunderbolt 2 enclosure. It connects via the Thunderbolt 2 port and then includes a Thunderbolt 2 hub built in for additional Thunderbolt 2 devices. This is a "Mac" device but should work with any Thunderbolt 2 port and says it is Windows compatible. It's expensive but Mac stuff always is and its not terrible if you add your own drives.

https://eshop.macsales.com/shop/thunderbay-4-mini/thunderbolt-2

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