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Shimano XT 12 Speed Vs SRAM Eagle 12 Speed - Which Should I buy?

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online joeg26er Posts: 122 Joined: Thu Aug 28, 2008 3:40 am
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by joeg26er on Mon Jul 15, 2019 7:55 pm

Shimano XT 12 Speed Vs SRAM Eagle 12 Speed - Which should I buy? Looking at this for an enduro 27.5x2.6 full suspension bike Pros - cons? Top online Sammy Posts: 22 Joined: Tue Feb 12, 2019 7:02 pm
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by Sammy on Mon Jul 15, 2019 8:44 pm

Which eagle? Sent from my ONEPLUS A6003 using Tapatalk Top online

by Weenie on Mon Jul 15, 2019 8:44 pm

Visit starbike.com Online Retailer for HighEnd cycling componentsGreat Prices ✓ Broad Selection ✓ Worldwide Delivery ✓www.starbike.com Top online User avatar robbosmans Moderator Posts: 3022 Joined: Sun Aug 26, 2018 12:40 pm Location: Central Belgium Contact: Contact robbosmans Website
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by robbosmans on Tue Jul 16, 2019 9:35 am

Sram is lighter Verzonden vanaf mijn iPhone met Tapatalk Colnago V4Rs - 6.8kg Enve MOG - 8.0kg BMC Roadmachine - 8kg Top online joeg26er Posts: 122 Joined: Thu Aug 28, 2008 3:40 am
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by joeg26er on Tue Jul 16, 2019 3:37 pm

Which SRAM Eagle group is the same level as XT 12? Is weight the only difference between these two? Top online Attermann Posts: 1026 Joined: Sun Jan 05, 2014 11:04 pm Location: Denmark
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by Attermann on Wed Jul 17, 2019 7:51 am

Gx eagle is about the same. Top online TurboKoo Posts: 684 Joined: Wed Oct 29, 2008 7:55 pm
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by TurboKoo on Wed Jul 17, 2019 9:54 am

New Shimano HG+ is much much smoother shifting. Cannondale SuperSix Shimano 9270 Top online Sammy Posts: 22 Joined: Tue Feb 12, 2019 7:02 pm
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by Sammy on Wed Jul 17, 2019 11:06 am

I really like GX, no experience with XT though. I'd stay away from NX. It's not nearly as reliable. Sent from my ONEPLUS A6003 using Tapatalk Top online markdjr Posts: 251 Joined: Sun Sep 17, 2017 10:21 pm
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by markdjr on Wed Jul 17, 2019 4:18 pm

XT shifts better, less maintenance and better gear range Top online TheRich Posts: 1162 Joined: Tue Jan 01, 2019 1:36 am
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by TheRich on Wed Jul 17, 2019 6:36 pm

At this point I'd be concerned about freehub availability if this is going on an existing bike. Other than that, just go for the best price. Top online AnkitS Posts: 1465 Joined: Wed Jan 09, 2019 5:03 am Location: Austin, TX
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by AnkitS on Wed Jul 17, 2019 6:52 pm

TheRich wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2019 6:36 pm At this point I'd be concerned about freehub availability if this is going on an existing bike. Other than that, just go for the best price.
Sram eagle cassettes are compatible with Shimano 12 speed rear derailleurs. Top online XCProMD Posts: 1188 Joined: Sat Jan 26, 2008 10:25 am Location: Cantabria
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by XCProMD on Wed Jul 24, 2019 7:14 am

I’ve racing enduro since 2005 and one of the lessons learned is that enduro bicycles have a much tougher life. Actually tougher than DH in which the runs are shorter, I’d say. One of the components that suffer the most, and one that very often can ruin your race is the RD. Actually when we started using only one chainring the idea was to simplify the whole drivetrain so the RD could work in a simpler fashion. SRAM got it right early here. Their X-Horizon RD, among other things, makes impossible ghost shifts due to the inertial forces on the cage and outermost knuckle, which was a common source of trouble which often ended with a RD wrapped around the cogs. The new Shimano 12s derailleurs follow the same principle (no more slant parallelogram), but unfortunately are still proving to be weaker than SRAM. On top of that we got a batch which feels super stiff at the lever (XTR). Another problem is the new microspline thing (couldn’t they just use an XD body??), there are not so many rear hubs really available (catalogs are another thing). The best bang for the buck is considered to be X01 lever, GX derailleur and X01 cassette ( to reduce unsprung mass ). Money can be saved on GX level cassette and smoother shifting comes at the cost of getting a XX1 lever. Hope that helps. Skickat från min iPhone med Tapatalk Top online Ritxis Posts: 1245 Joined: Fri Jun 01, 2012 3:00 pm Location: San Sebastian
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by Ritxis on Fri Jul 26, 2019 8:24 pm

XCProMD wrote: ↑Wed Jul 24, 2019 7:14 am I’ve racing enduro since 2005 and one of the lessons learned is that enduro bicycles have a much tougher life. Actually tougher than DH in which the runs are shorter, I’d say. One of the components that suffer the most, and one that very often can ruin your race is the RD. Actually when we started using only one chainring the idea was to simplify the whole drivetrain so the RD could work in a simpler fashion. SRAM got it right early here. Their X-Horizon RD, among other things, makes impossible ghost shifts due to the inertial forces on the cage and outermost knuckle, which was a common source of trouble which often ended with a RD wrapped around the cogs. The new Shimano 12s derailleurs follow the same principle (no more slant parallelogram), but unfortunately are still proving to be weaker than SRAM. On top of that we got a batch which feels super stiff at the lever (XTR). Another problem is the new microspline thing (couldn’t they just use an XD body??), there are not so many rear hubs really available (catalogs are another thing). The best bang for the buck is considered to be X01 lever, GX derailleur and X01 cassette ( to reduce unsprung mass ). Money can be saved on GX level cassette and smoother shifting comes at the cost of getting a XX1 lever. Hope that helps. Skickat från min iPhone med Tapatalk
equal shimano has preferred a new freehub, why it can be made compatible with HG cassettes.........if you give an HG+ to HG adapter splineadapter_zps3syrecju.jpg Top online XCProMD Posts: 1188 Joined: Sat Jan 26, 2008 10:25 am Location: Cantabria
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by XCProMD on Sat Jul 27, 2019 7:47 am

I’m sorry but I don’t get what you mean. I know the intricacies of the Microspline freehub and that there is an adaptor. I just wonder if we needed another cassette interface at all when there are two already available that’ll space up to 12 cogs and one of them has been around since 1996. Top online User avatar robbosmans Moderator Posts: 3022 Joined: Sun Aug 26, 2018 12:40 pm Location: Central Belgium Contact: Contact robbosmans Website
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by robbosmans on Sat Jul 27, 2019 7:49 am

If you are are worried about durability i wouldnt go with 12 speed, just 11 speed with a larger casette Verzonden vanaf mijn iPhone met Tapatalk Colnago V4Rs - 6.8kg Enve MOG - 8.0kg BMC Roadmachine - 8kg Top online

by Weenie on Sat Jul 27, 2019 7:49 am

Visit starbike.com Online Retailer for HighEnd cycling componentsGreat Prices ✓ Broad Selection ✓ Worldwide Delivery ✓www.starbike.com Top online TheRich Posts: 1162 Joined: Tue Jan 01, 2019 1:36 am
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by TheRich on Sun Jul 28, 2019 2:26 am

XCProMD wrote: ↑Sat Jul 27, 2019 7:47 am I’m sorry but I don’t get what you mean. I know the intricacies of the Microspline freehub and that there is an adaptor. I just wonder if we needed another cassette interface at all when there are two already available that’ll space up to 12 cogs and one of them has been around since 1996.
Did people make this complaint when SRAM went 11-speed? If so, the answer is the same. Top Post Reply Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Direction: AscendingDescending 31 posts
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