Topping D90 DAC - Official Thread - The HEADPHONE Community Trang chủ » Xmos Xu216 Vs Xu208 » Topping D90 DAC - Official Thread - The HEADPHONE Community Có thể bạn quan tâm Xmp Bios Là Gì Xmp Là Gi Xmpp Tạo Ra Danh Tính Xmr/c M9 Xmr Là Coin Gì Topping D90 DAC - Official Thread DACs and Digital dac, topping Andrew_Davis April 23, 2020, 5:11am 142 The only difference is MQA decoding, right? 1 Like mshenay April 23, 2020, 5:17am 143 Yea I believe so, happy to report with my 1+ 7T Pro 5G and Usb Android Player Pro [MQA License’s purchased] D90 was plug an Play!!! 2 Likes MRHifiReviews April 23, 2020, 6:47am 144 I am still am enjoying my D90 non MQA version! 2 Likes MartinTransporter April 23, 2020, 10:47am 145 oh! I was thinking mqa came via firmware update to the D90 1 Like angstorms April 23, 2020, 12:57pm 146 They are loading a new USB interface XMOS XU216 vs std XU208 XU216 Datasheet 216 has 2x the cores and memory, mostly likely they running the MQA decoder on XMOS unit prior to feeding the DAC. Since everything else is the same. So it is a little more then Firmware update. 5 Likes MartinTransporter April 23, 2020, 12:59pm 147 Thank you for making this clear, in such an easy understandable way 2 Likes Andrew_Davis April 23, 2020, 4:13pm 148 So what you’re saying is that Topping could update my regular D90 to decode MQA, but isnt in favor of selling me a whole new device. 1 Like ValentineLuke April 23, 2020, 4:20pm 149 When did Topping become Apple? 4 Likes Andrew_Davis April 23, 2020, 4:25pm 150 I would even pay $100 for the firmware update for MQA. I’m probably not going to buy a whole new unit and then sell the old one. After taxes and transactional fees that’s probably a $300+ Delta. Torq April 23, 2020, 4:31pm 151 Except the version you have cannot run the firmware that the MQA version has, since the difference isn’t just firmware. And the XMOS chipset isn’t something you can simply swap in either - it’s not on a daughter-board. Topping actually announced both versions at the same time, so that those that wanted MQA new it was coming and could wait for that version. 10 Likes angstorms April 23, 2020, 4:35pm 152 They may already be running at the performance limit current XU208 remember it has local processing it more than just USB controller. What amazing is this team spun out of Graphcore they guys doing the big deep learning chip. now they are going to build little IOT deep learning chips as well. Took side road to build XU208 and XU216. https://www.xmos.com. XCORE.ai is the project I love to play with since it builds off they XU2xx serries, it be fun to work with tinyML and Audio signals. 1 Like angstorms April 23, 2020, 4:37pm 153 As Torq said this chip is Wave soldered down, you need to buy a different DAC. Personally I would invest $100+ dollars/euros into Qobuz and get better audio quality 10 Likes ProfFalkin April 23, 2020, 6:38pm 154 THIS! So much this. The source files/masters are much more important than MQA will ever be. And hopefully these shenanigans will just highlight how much of a joke mqa really is. 4 Likes ValentineLuke April 23, 2020, 7:33pm 155 You can thank MQA for a lot of the new masters, as they were done specifically for MQA. I’m in agreement that the masters have a greater impact on the musical reproduction, but I also think their filtering is doing something good. 2 Likes Andrew_Davis April 23, 2020, 7:34pm 156 Brilliant marketing, actually! They’ve found a way to make DRM a selling point, and a licensing opportunity. 2 Likes ProfFalkin April 23, 2020, 7:41pm 157 I might thank them for the remasters if any of them were good. I will never applaud music DRM, not because it’s bad to protect IP, but because it’s been abused by labels in the past so much and so poorly. Remember iTunes back in the day, and being unable to play the music you purchased unless you had an internet connection and valid login? Being locked into using only iTunes or an apple device to play your music? Realizing you’re pretty much just screwed when you tried to switch between digital ecosystems? I guess I’m still bitter. 8 Likes ValentineLuke April 23, 2020, 7:49pm 158 I think some of the remasters are quite good. I understand and agree with a lot of what you said regarding DRM. 3 Likes mshenay April 24, 2020, 12:08am 159 I personally kinda have MQA just to be relevant when MQA branded products hit the market, and there are a very SELECT few MQA masters that I feel are worthwhile So when your buying MQA Hardware your hopefully a happy TIDAL subscriber, and what I do like about Tidal [not so much MQA] is their content curation. They’ve got a nice selection of MQA specific playlists they generate and honestly even the USB Android Player Pro “Tidal” Subsection is cleaner/faster to navigate than it’s Qobuz portion is. An while I prefer Qobuz purely for it’s quality, I miss the Tidal content and overall delivery & Convenience. I enjoy exploring music more so thru Tidal than Qobuz, every now and again an awesome Qobuz playlist will land. That said, I’m wondering what other benefits the Xmos 216 chipset brings into the overall performance of the D90 MQA. Non the less going to fire up the Tab S4 tonight and see how easily it integrates with D90 MQA and my little set of JBL 305p MK ii’s 1 Like mshenay April 29, 2020, 4:45am 160 I get that 100%, the irony is having understood that at a very early age I owned CD and windows based music systems. Heck my hesitation to even get into streaming was tied into that early mind set of wanting the freedom of offline content and a disdain for the entire CONCEPT of having to require both a constant online connection AND login to access my music Growing up I had didn’t have constant and steady internet access so streaming was never a worthwhile option, so at my core I still hold a LOT of offline content and I view streaming purely as a convenient way to explore and enjoy. I still purchase any music I find worthwhile so that I may always have access to it, and yea I’ll admit that I would NEVER limit myself to purely MQA for many of the same reasons your bitter. So yes I’m willing to pay for the convenience and exclusivity of MQA but I would never suggest any one buy into 100%, I still feel that streaming is a supplement to owning content and offline solutions. My reference system is still 100% offline content and I may start to build a local network within my home for my next reference rig, but I will never switch to purely streaming only… heck I still have back up DAPs loaded with music to serve me in a “worse case critical loss scenario” Ehm, that said D90 MQA pair’d nicely with my Tablet, no issues with full MQA Decoding either IMG_20200423_2042113264×2448 1.84 MB 3 Likes Lanford_Ripley May 16, 2020, 3:54pm 161 I’m considering getting the Topping D90 from the Audio Science Review. Do you think this was an unbiased review? It seems like this DAC is the third best DAC to be reviewed there. Now there is the Topping D90 Pro MQA, which I am considering buying. Do you feel this is as good a DAC as the Matrix X Sabre MQA which is the second best DAC reviewed on Audio Science Review. Both DACs have the same MQA chip. This is my first post here and I have never had a DAC. I have an Apple iMac late 2012 desktop. What would be the best connection from the iMac to the DAC: USB or another connection? 2 Likes ← previous page next page → Related topics Topic Replies Views Activity Which DAC would you get and why? General Headphone Discussion 81 21495 August 24, 2021 Topping D50 Dac -Review DACs and Digital 23 16872 August 6, 2019 DAC Amp Suggestions I need advice! headphone-amp , dac 243 19630 October 8, 2024 Topping A90 Discrete - Official Thread DACs and Digital 28 8189 January 25, 2025 DAC Quality: Myths vs Reality DACs and Digital 203 5054 December 9, 2025 Từ khóa » Xmos Xu216 Vs Xu208 XMOS XU208 USB BRIDGES - THE LATEST GEN HAS ARRIVED! 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