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Turkish Aviation April 2022

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debonair Posts: 4959 Joined: Sat Jan 03, 2004 10:50 pm

Re: Turkish Aviation April 2022

  • #151

Mon Apr 25, 2022 3:12 pm

TKflyer wrote:two new airlines will enrich Turkish aviationOn the one hand, Southwind Airlines, which is associated with Nordwind Airlines and Pegas Touristik and also Pegas fly, is to take off from Antalya with 2 A320 and 3 A330.On the other hand, the MGA Havacılık (Mavi Gök Havayollari), alias Azur Air (Türkiye), which will belong to the Anex Tour Group and will be launched with 2 737-900(ER) and 2 777-300(ER). like the first mentioned, the Azur Air sister company from Antalya will mainly transport Russian tourists in the summer. other destinations are also planned later.It is speculated that the 2 Boeing 737-9GP(ER) wl could be the VQ-BYO and the VQ-BYX. As with the 2 Boeing 777-300(ER) VQ-BTK and VQ-BZY all ex Azur Air
Interview with Corendon CEO Yildiray Karaer, unfortunately in German. New flights to Russia are suspended indefinitely, due to the lack of necessary insurance cover. As its impossible to find an insurance company willing to insure the the flights. Also, according to him, Rosaviatsiya was very "uncooperative" in securing traffic rights... So I don't know how these start-ups will operate, with all these problems! https://www.aerotelegraph.com/boeing-73 ... -wie-dubai Top stylo777 Posts: 3046 Joined: Mon Feb 13, 2006 7:32 pm

Re: Turkish Aviation April 2022

  • #152

Mon Apr 25, 2022 4:49 pm

TK787 wrote:-From SAW you can take a cab to Pendik or so and get on the subway to Kadikoy. -From Kadikoy you can take the metrobus to Gayrettepe and then take a cab from there. Those are some alternatives/cheats but still no easy way to get around :(
...only if any cab takes you to Pendik without any major drama :roll: Top Blerg Posts: 6320 Joined: Tue Jan 09, 2018 11:42 am

Re: Turkish Aviation April 2022

  • #153

Mon Apr 25, 2022 5:50 pm

debonair wrote:
TKflyer wrote:two new airlines will enrich Turkish aviationOn the one hand, Southwind Airlines, which is associated with Nordwind Airlines and Pegas Touristik and also Pegas fly, is to take off from Antalya with 2 A320 and 3 A330.On the other hand, the MGA Havacılık (Mavi Gök Havayollari), alias Azur Air (Türkiye), which will belong to the Anex Tour Group and will be launched with 2 737-900(ER) and 2 777-300(ER). like the first mentioned, the Azur Air sister company from Antalya will mainly transport Russian tourists in the summer. other destinations are also planned later.It is speculated that the 2 Boeing 737-9GP(ER) wl could be the VQ-BYO and the VQ-BYX. As with the 2 Boeing 777-300(ER) VQ-BTK and VQ-BZY all ex Azur Air
Interview with Corendon CEO Yildiray Karaer, unfortunately in German. New flights to Russia are suspended indefinitely, due to the lack of necessary insurance cover. As its impossible to find an insurance company willing to insure the the flights. Also, according to him, Rosaviatsiya was very "uncooperative" in securing traffic rights... So I don't know how these start-ups will operate, with all these problems! https://www.aerotelegraph.com/boeing-73 ... -wie-dubai
Well TK being a government backed airline they will have an easier time securing all the rights for flights to take place. After all, TK has no problem getting insurance for its own planes that are heading to Russia. Top emre787 Posts: 387 Joined: Sun Mar 17, 2019 7:59 pm

Re: Turkish Aviation April 2022

  • #154

Tue Apr 26, 2022 5:43 pm

TK is looking to add flights to Rio de Janeiro, Brazil, as well as to Montevideo, Uruguayhttps://havasosyalmedya.com/thyde-hedef ... ontevideo/ Top HB-IWC Posts: 4689 Joined: Fri Sep 22, 2000 1:09 am

Re: Turkish Aviation April 2022

  • #155

Tue Apr 26, 2022 11:10 pm

emre787 wrote:TK is looking to add flights to Rio de Janeiro, Brazil, as well as to Montevideo, Uruguayhttps://havasosyalmedya.com/thyde-hedef ... ontevideo/
In combination with each other or tagged to Sao Paulo? I would have reasonably expected both Lima and Santiago de Chile to be higher on the list of consideratoins than Montevideo. Top User avatar TKflyer Posts: 818 Joined: Thu Feb 06, 2020 7:35 am

Re: Turkish Aviation April 2022

  • #156

Wed Apr 27, 2022 9:41 am

The first leased BOEING 737-8 MAX, TC-LAK msn 61848/8193, was spotted in BFI is being prepared for TURKISH AIRLINES and will soon be painted Top User avatar TK787 Topic Author Posts: 5197 Joined: Wed Jan 04, 2006 3:43 am

Re: Turkish Aviation April 2022

  • #157

Wed Apr 27, 2022 12:04 pm

I started seeing the Morgan Freeman TK commercial in NY tv channels again. It is kind of late in the season for Americans to make plans for summer travel but probably I am wrong. Top User avatar OA260 Posts: 27977 Joined: Thu Nov 30, 2006 8:50 pm

Re: Turkish Aviation April 2022

  • #158

Wed Apr 27, 2022 12:25 pm

TK787 wrote:I started seeing the Morgan Freeman TK commercial in NY tv channels again. It is kind of late in the season for Americans to make plans for summer travel but probably I am wrong.
They are showing the same one in the last week or so in the UK and Irish markets. Top User avatar TKflyer Posts: 818 Joined: Thu Feb 06, 2020 7:35 am

Re: Turkish Aviation April 2022

  • #159

Wed Apr 27, 2022 2:46 pm

Another airline that will start in Turkey with 2 Airbus A330 is AirAnkaThe first A330 has already been spotted painted in Istanbul (ISL).https://www.airporthaber.com/havacilik-haberleri/airanka-ucagi-ilk-kez-goruntulendi.html Top debonair Posts: 4959 Joined: Sat Jan 03, 2004 10:50 pm

Re: Turkish Aviation April 2022

  • #160

Wed Apr 27, 2022 3:02 pm

TKflyer wrote:Another airline that will start in Turkey with 2 Airbus A330 is AirAnkaThe first A330 has already been spotted painted in Istanbul (ISL).https://www.airporthaber.com/havacilik-haberleri/airanka-ucagi-ilk-kez-goruntulendi.html
Nice catch, any more infos regarding their previous operators, maybe ex OnurAir?! BTW. and idea the tail next to it belongs to?! Top stylo777 Posts: 3046 Joined: Mon Feb 13, 2006 7:32 pm

Re: Turkish Aviation April 2022

  • #161

Wed Apr 27, 2022 3:17 pm

TKflyer wrote:Another airline that will start in Turkey with 2 Airbus A330 is AirAnkaThe first A330 has already been spotted painted in Istanbul (ISL).https://www.airporthaber.com/havacilik-haberleri/airanka-ucagi-ilk-kez-goruntulendi.html
thanks for sharing! I'm also very interested in the underlying business model of this new airline. To start with 2x A332 is pretty risky for any airline. Is it even possible that the people behind defunct Ankair (which was originally founded as World Focus Airlines) are behind this venture? Name is similar, as is the logo (to WFA, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ankair#/m ... s_logo.jpg) Top emre787 Posts: 387 Joined: Sun Mar 17, 2019 7:59 pm

Re: Turkish Aviation April 2022

  • #162

Wed Apr 27, 2022 3:58 pm

HB-IWC wrote:
emre787 wrote:TK is looking to add flights to Rio de Janeiro, Brazil, as well as to Montevideo, Uruguayhttps://havasosyalmedya.com/thyde-hedef ... ontevideo/
In combination with each other or tagged to Sao Paulo? I would have reasonably expected both Lima and Santiago de Chile to be higher on the list of consideratoins than Montevideo.
No information on that yet. I would assume IST-GIG and IST-GRU-MVD as GRU-MVD is literally the same distance as GRU-EZE which TK flies 4x weekly as of right now and the aircraft could rotate to Montevideo on the remaining 3 days of the week. Rio should be able to sustain terminator service, e.g. 3x weekly 787-9. We'll see if I'm right :) Top User avatar TKflyer Posts: 818 Joined: Thu Feb 06, 2020 7:35 am

Re: Turkish Aviation April 2022

  • #163

Wed Apr 27, 2022 6:08 pm

debonair wrote:
TKflyer wrote:Another airline that will start in Turkey with 2 Airbus A330 is AirAnkaThe first A330 has already been spotted painted in Istanbul (ISL).https://www.airporthaber.com/havacilik-haberleri/airanka-ucagi-ilk-kez-goruntulendi.html
Nice catch, any more infos regarding their previous operators, maybe ex OnurAir?! BTW. and idea the tail next to it belongs to?!
The Tail next to the AirAnka A330 looks like a Boeing 777 Tail, maybe the MGA Havacilik? Top MoonC Posts: 428 Joined: Fri Dec 06, 2013 1:26 am

Re: Turkish Aviation April 2022

  • #164

Wed Apr 27, 2022 9:00 pm

TKflyer wrote:
debonair wrote:
TKflyer wrote:Another airline that will start in Turkey with 2 Airbus A330 is AirAnkaThe first A330 has already been spotted painted in Istanbul (ISL).https://www.airporthaber.com/havacilik-haberleri/airanka-ucagi-ilk-kez-goruntulendi.html
Nice catch, any more infos regarding their previous operators, maybe ex OnurAir?! BTW. and idea the tail next to it belongs to?!
The Tail next to the AirAnka A330 looks like a Boeing 777 Tail, maybe the MGA Havacilik?
FlyAman 767-200 Top TK773ER Posts: 597 Joined: Thu Jun 03, 2010 10:08 am

Re: Turkish Aviation April 2022

  • #165

Thu Apr 28, 2022 5:55 am

Turkish Airlines ranked number 4 for best business class travel This new study from luggage storage company Bounce has figured out which ones are actually worth spending money on. Using reviews aggregated via the Business Class blog and assessing airlines against categories like ‘amenities and facilities’, ‘cabin and seat’ and ‘cuisine’, the brand has given each airline a score. Here is the list below;1 Singapore Airlines (9.57)2 Qatar Airways (9.29)3 Cathay Pacific (9.00)4 Turkish Airlines (8.86)5 Etihad Airways (8.71)6 Asiana (8.57)7 Japan Airlines (8.57)8 All Nippon Airways (ANA) (8.57)9 Air New Zealand (8.43)10 Thai Airways (8.43)Link https://www.timeout.com/news/ranked-the ... vel-042722 Top User avatar TK787 Topic Author Posts: 5197 Joined: Wed Jan 04, 2006 3:43 am

Re: Turkish Aviation April 2022

  • #166

Thu Apr 28, 2022 12:00 pm

I really do not understand how these rankings are calculated. Just like Skytrax?Here is another one from last September, IST ranked as #2 airport in the world by Travel + Leisure. https://www.travelandleisure.com/worlds ... ernational Top User avatar TKflyer Posts: 818 Joined: Thu Feb 06, 2020 7:35 am

Re: Turkish Aviation April 2022

  • #167

Thu Apr 28, 2022 3:21 pm

According to Turkish media and rumours, TURKISH AIRLINES will shortly take delivery of 4 AIRBUS A350-941 produced for Aeroflot Top User avatar ikolkyo Posts: 4809 Joined: Tue Nov 05, 2013 8:43 pm

Re: Turkish Aviation April 2022

  • #168

Thu Apr 28, 2022 3:27 pm

Sounds about right, TK really doesn’t care about having consistent cabins. They just want the aircraft. Top Blerg Posts: 6320 Joined: Tue Jan 09, 2018 11:42 am

Re: Turkish Aviation April 2022

  • #169

Thu Apr 28, 2022 3:33 pm

Will these A350s be used to launch new frequencies/destinations or as replacement for some older models? Top User avatar TK787 Topic Author Posts: 5197 Joined: Wed Jan 04, 2006 3:43 am

Re: Turkish Aviation April 2022

  • #170

Thu Apr 28, 2022 6:21 pm

Well, I am usually pretty bad about these things, but I recently commented on TK to grab either Aeroflot's or Qatar's 350's.-TK is flying more flights compared to pre-pandemic, even without Chinese routes and many others in Russia, Ukraine and others. -No 787 deliveries in sight-Slow 350 delivery timetable. -And on top, rumors suggest they got a discount on these 4 frames.I can see TK starting SEA next month with 350, Denver and Detroit might start. Hey, even those S. American rumor cities might start soon since TK will have its 6th 350 delivered soon.Aeroflot 350s have 28C 24Economy+ 264Y seats, compared to TK's 32C 297Y seats. I bet, TK will replace this config during the slow winter months next year and use its locally produced seats, at least get rid of Y+ and convert all 4 to 2 class.Lovely Business Class seats though on Aeroflot:) Top emre787 Posts: 387 Joined: Sun Mar 17, 2019 7:59 pm

Re: Turkish Aviation April 2022

  • #171

Thu Apr 28, 2022 6:22 pm

ikolkyo wrote:Sounds about right, TK really doesn’t care about having consistent cabins. They just want the aircraft.
Maybe they managed to put in their cabins? We'll see... I just hope that the cabin situation won't turn into LH. They'll soon be flying with PAL configured A350s, Vistara and Hainan 787s... And then maybe some Aeroflot A350s too :( Top User avatar ikolkyo Posts: 4809 Joined: Tue Nov 05, 2013 8:43 pm

Re: Turkish Aviation April 2022

  • #172

Thu Apr 28, 2022 6:28 pm

emre787 wrote:
ikolkyo wrote:Sounds about right, TK really doesn’t care about having consistent cabins. They just want the aircraft.
Maybe they managed to put in their cabins? We'll see... I just hope that the cabin situation won't turn into LH. They'll soon be flying with PAL configured A350s, Vistara and Hainan 787s... And then maybe some Aeroflot A350s too :(
No way they have TK interiors if they are to be delivered and operated in such a short time. Seats have long lead times and historically if you look at TKs A330 and 777 fleets they were a mess in terms of the multiple different cabins they operate. I believe they have cycled out a lot of these aircraft though Top ushuaia Posts: 20 Joined: Mon Dec 03, 2018 9:25 pm

Re: Turkish Aviation April 2022

  • #173

Thu Apr 28, 2022 6:50 pm

The Incorporation decided to start operating scheduled flights, based on market conditions, to BHK.Source:https://www.kap.org.tr/en/Bildirim/1025105 Top User avatar TKflyer Posts: 818 Joined: Thu Feb 06, 2020 7:35 am

Re: Turkish Aviation April 2022

  • #174

Thu Apr 28, 2022 10:21 pm

TKflyer wrote:Could BOC Aviation's 7 Boeing 737-8 MAX be destined for ANADOLUJET?My research has shown that 5 of the 7 aircraft are actually produced for the Russian S7 Airlines.TC-LAE, msn 44656, Boeing 737-8TC-LAF, msn 65741, Boeing 737-8TC-LAG, msn/ln 61810/8146, Boeing 737-8, ex N4022T, N4022A (ntu S7 Airlines), BOC, TC-LAGTC-LAH, msn/ln 61845/8149, Boeing 737-8, ex N4022T, N4022A, N5573B, (ntu S7 Airlines), BOC, TC-LAHTC-LAI, msn/ln 64947/8154, Boeing 737-8, ex N4022T, N40220, (ntu S7 Airlines), BOC, TC-LAITC-LAJ, msn/ln 61811/8182, Boeing 737-8, ex N4022T, N40219, N5573B, (ntu S7 Airlines), BOC, TC-LAJTC-LAK, msn/ln 61848/8193, Boeing 737-8, ex N4022, (ntu S7 Airlines), BOC, TC-LAK
As I suspected.According to Planespotters.net, the TC-LAG will be delivered to ANADOLUJEThttps://www.planespotters.net/airframe/boeing-737-max-8-tc-lag-anadolu-jet/epwml6 Top HB-IWC Posts: 4689 Joined: Fri Sep 22, 2000 1:09 am

Re: Turkish Aviation April 2022

  • #175

Thu Apr 28, 2022 11:42 pm

TK787 wrote:I bet, TK will replace this config during the slow winter months next year and use its locally produced seats, at least get rid of Y+ and convert all 4 to 2 class.Lovely Business Class seats though on Aeroflot:)
If recent history can offer any guidance, TK will undertake minimal changes to the configuration. Bringing them in line with the existing TK fleet would be both rather expensive and time consuming. I would expect these aircraft to be more or less confined to a fixed subset of longhaul destinations combined with the usual eclectic mix of regional and shorthaul trips in between. If TK wants to start announced service to Detroit and Denver and also cater to other pressing needs in the widebody network, it really has not other choice than to look for additional leased oini capacity because even the delivery of its own A350s seems to move at a very lethargic pace. The less said about 787 deliveries the better.In this regard, I can also not possibly imagine that TK would let go of the 3 leased KQ frames. These aircraft seem to be as busy as ever and there is currently no other spare capacity in the 77W passenger fleet. Top TK773ER Posts: 597 Joined: Thu Jun 03, 2010 10:08 am

Re: Turkish Aviation April 2022

  • #176

Fri Apr 29, 2022 2:40 am

Here is the link in Turkish regarding these 4 A350 Aeroflot frames https://www.airporthaber.com/thy-haberl ... liyor.html Seems like TK can not wait for their own orders to arrive and are after 4 cancelled Aeroflot frames .Of the 4 frames three are parked CHR and might be on TK's radar not sure where the last frame might come from assuming the below frames end up with TK, unless repossessing other already delivered to Aeroflot. MSN 457 delivered on contract parked at CHR.MSN 463 delivered on contract parked at CHR.MSN 471 painted and stored at CHR NTU.https://www.abcdlist.nl/a350f/a350f.html scroll through and see. Top TK773ER Posts: 597 Joined: Thu Jun 03, 2010 10:08 am

Re: Turkish Aviation April 2022

  • #177

Fri Apr 29, 2022 2:49 am

THY posted a first-quarter net profit of TL 2.2 billion ($161 million) Turkish Cargo was also the fifth-largest air freight carrier in the global market.https://www.dailysabah.com/business/tra ... yant-cargo Top HB-IWC Posts: 4689 Joined: Fri Sep 22, 2000 1:09 am

Re: Turkish Aviation April 2022

  • #178

Fri Apr 29, 2022 3:27 am

TK773ER wrote:Here is the link in Turkish regarding these 4 A350 Aeroflot frames https://www.airporthaber.com/thy-haberl ... liyor.html Seems like TK can not wait for their own orders to arrive and are after 4 cancelled Aeroflot frames .Of the 4 frames three are parked CHR and might be on TK's radar not sure where the last frame might come from assuming the below frames end up with TK, unless repossessing other already delivered to Aeroflot. MSN 457 delivered on contract parked at CHR.MSN 463 delivered on contract parked at CHR.MSN 471 painted and stored at CHR NTU.https://www.abcdlist.nl/a350f/a350f.html scroll through and see.
There is also MSN 493 currently testing at TLS so that makes 4. Top TK773ER Posts: 597 Joined: Thu Jun 03, 2010 10:08 am

Re: Turkish Aviation April 2022

  • #179

Fri Apr 29, 2022 3:52 am

One more new built 787 for TK has been ferried to VCV for storage https://www.skyliner-aviation.de/regdb. ... av4&page=4 this frame has been siting around CHS.https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/tc-llr who knows when these three built 787's will be delivered TC-LLR joins TC-LLS in VCV. Top User avatar TKflyer Posts: 818 Joined: Thu Feb 06, 2020 7:35 am

Re: Turkish Aviation April 2022

  • #180

Fri Apr 29, 2022 4:24 pm

TKflyer wrote:
TKflyer wrote:Could BOC Aviation's 7 Boeing 737-8 MAX be destined for ANADOLUJET?My research has shown that 5 of the 7 aircraft are actually produced for the Russian S7 Airlines.TC-LAE, msn 44656, Boeing 737-8TC-LAF, msn 65741, Boeing 737-8TC-LAG, msn/ln 61810/8146, Boeing 737-8, ex N4022T, N4022A (ntu S7 Airlines), BOC, TC-LAGTC-LAH, msn/ln 61845/8149, Boeing 737-8, ex N4022T, N4022A, N5573B, (ntu S7 Airlines), BOC, TC-LAHTC-LAI, msn/ln 64947/8154, Boeing 737-8, ex N4022T, N40220, (ntu S7 Airlines), BOC, TC-LAITC-LAJ, msn/ln 61811/8182, Boeing 737-8, ex N4022T, N40219, N5573B, (ntu S7 Airlines), BOC, TC-LAJTC-LAK, msn/ln 61848/8193, Boeing 737-8, ex N4022, (ntu S7 Airlines), BOC, TC-LAK
As I suspected.According to Planespotters.net, the TC-LAG will be delivered to ANADOLUJEThttps://www.planespotters.net/airframe/boeing-737-max-8-tc-lag-anadolu-jet/epwml6
now the other 737-8 MAX for ANADOLUJET except the TC-LAE and TC-LAF are listed on planespotters.nethttps://www.planespotters.net/airline/Anadolu-Jet Top User avatar TK787 Topic Author Posts: 5197 Joined: Wed Jan 04, 2006 3:43 am

Re: Turkish Aviation April 2022

  • #181

Sat Apr 30, 2022 6:43 pm

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