Vintage Celestion G12H30 (75 Hz) Pulsonic Cone (T1234)

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• Thread starter frater106
• Start date Oct 8, 2021
• Tags celestion t1234
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Should I buy at this price ($470)?

• Yes

  Votes: 1 25.0%

• No

  Votes: 1 25.0%

• Only at a lower price

  Votes: 2 50.0%

• Total voters 4

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frater106

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Joined May 25, 2010 Messages 490 Reaction score 379 Hey, guys! I’ve got an opportunity to buy a 1974 G12H30 (75 Hz) T1234 Creamback with the Pulsonic lead cone. I’m not really hip to pricing on these vintage speakers yet. I offered $400 (price plus shipping) and the buyer countered with $470. What kind of price is that (low, average, high)? Should I jump on this or no? I’d rather have a T1281 55 Hz, but you don’t see these vintage speakers for sale too often, I don’t think. I could live with the lead cone, I figure. What do you guys think?

mdubya

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Joined Jan 24, 2010 Messages 30,241 Reaction score 68,000 Counter with $399. The H speakers seem to be more rare. What kind of shape is it in? Not many are in any kind of decent shape anymore, either. The new ones don't sound anything close to as good, though. F

frater106

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Joined May 25, 2010 Messages 490 Reaction score 379 If he rejected $400, I don’t see him taking $399. Or did I misunderstand something?

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frater106

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Joined May 25, 2010 Messages 490 Reaction score 379

mdubya said: Counter with $399. The H speakers seem to be more rare. What kind of shape is it in? Not many are in any kind of decent shape anymore, either. The new ones don't sound anything close to as good, though. Click to expand...

I replied, but forgot to make it a reply. Oops!

mdubya

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Joined Jan 24, 2010 Messages 30,241 Reaction score 68,000 No worries. It looks very clean. The $399 thing was to be a smart ass and start going lower instead of closer to his offers. It is Friday after all. It is a tough call, imho. All prices are crazy right now. I have Pulsonic G12Ms. I also have some 90s Greenback reissues that sound very close. I have played through a set of Ted Weber era Weber G12Ms that were amazing. If you have a great sounding vintage amp, it would be worth it. F

frater106

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Joined May 25, 2010 Messages 490 Reaction score 379

mdubya said: No worries. It looks very clean. The $399 thing was to be a smart ass and start going lower instead of closer to his offers. It is Friday after all. It is a tough call, imho. All prices are crazy right now. I have Pulsonic G12Ms. I also have some 90s Greenback reissues that sound very close. I have played through a set of Ted Weber era Weber G12Ms that were amazing. If you have a great sounding vintage amp, it would be worth it. Click to expand...

Gotcha. Yeah, I’ll probably just go with a re-issue Heritage if I use something like that. Upwards of $400 seems unlikely to be worth it to me. I’m not one of those guys who think everything modern is shite. Still, the Vintage stuff does have a little magic in it sometimes.

mdubya

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Joined Jan 24, 2010 Messages 30,241 Reaction score 68,000

frater106 said: Gotcha. Yeah, I’ll probably just go with a re-issue Heritage if I use something like that. Upwards of $400 seems unlikely to be worth it to me. I’m not one of those guys who think everything modern is shite. Still, the Vintage stuff does have a little magic in it sometimes. Click to expand...

IMHO, current reissues only "look" like the originals. They don't "sound" like them. I have digital IRs that sound more like real vintage speakers than almost any currently available real speakers. That is part of why I am sold on digital, personally. I would look at something like Weber. Current Celestion reissues don't sound very good, IMHO. I don't even like the way Scumbacks sound, though many think they are great. I have some Warehouse Guitar Green Berets and they sound kind of like 70s black backs to me, but they don't have anything like the magic of vintage Pulsonics. Last edited: Oct 9, 2021 F

frater106

Senior Member

Joined May 25, 2010 Messages 490 Reaction score 379

mdubya said: IMHO, current reissues only "look" like the originals. They don't "Sound" like them. I have digital IRs that sound more like real vintage speakers than almost any currently available real speakers. That is part of why I am sold on digital, personally. I would look something like Weber. Current Celestion reissues don't sound very good, IMHO. I don't even like the way Scumbacks sound, though many think they are great. I have some Warehouse Guitar Green Berets and they some kind of like 70s black backs to me, but they don't have anything like the magic of vintage Pulsonics. Click to expand...

I was looking to mix a Celestion G12H30 70th Anniversary with a Ruby Alnico in a 212 combo and a fellow forum member on The Gear Page was able to make me a short guitar sample through that exact combination using Celestion’s IRs. It was very convincing and definitely enlightened me as to what that would sound like. Very cool indeed. Digital does have an upside. You must log in or register to reply here.

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