Audirvana Does Not Detect Arcam SA 30 As A MQA Decoder

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🖥️ Audirvāna Device connectivity kenkirk September 10, 2020, 5:02pm 1 Hello, Audirvana does not detect the Arcam SA 30 as a full MQA decoder. It is.The forum will not allow me to paste the debug information…Ken bitracer September 10, 2020, 5:27pm 2 You can set it manually to MQA decoder. Traveler8853 September 10, 2020, 7:23pm 3 Ya it didn’t auto-detect my SMSL M400, but you can manually set it and MQA will pass just fine. kenkirk September 10, 2020, 8:49pm 4 I did set it manually. Does not work. This is a Upnp connection via ethernet. I’ve tried everything. I can set it as a renderer and Audirvana will unfold the first layer and pass that. But when set as a MQA decoder, it sends 24/48 to the Arcam and the Arcam does not see the MQA stream. bitracer September 10, 2020, 9:10pm 5 Have you disabled the auto detect feature? Are you on a Mac or a PC? kenkirk September 10, 2020, 9:15pm 6 Yes I have tried that. I once had to do that with a Meridian Employer II a few versions back. I have been using Audirvana for many years. The Arcam SA 30 is the new piece of the puzzle. And I have always used USB, not Upnp. I am using a MacBook running the latest Catalina. I can’t post the debug because I am a new poster on the forum. Its been a long time since I needed help with Audirvana!Ken bitracer September 10, 2020, 9:21pm 7 It looks like the MQA is supported only when streamed directly from the internet and from files on USB drive.Check that with the manufacturer. kenkirk September 10, 2020, 9:34pm 8 No, I get MQA over ethernet with Tidal via Roon. Antoine September 11, 2020, 7:09am 9 Hello @kenkirk, I changed your account settings in the forum, you should now be able to post the debug info. kenkirk September 11, 2020, 12:12pm 10 here is the debug : Thanks!Audirvana Mac Version 3.5.40 (3570) macOS 10.15.6 with 8192MB RAMRegistered to Kenneth KirkpatrickSIGNAL PROCESSING:UPSAMPLING: SoX not in use SoX filter parameters Bandwidth at 0dB = 99.5 Filter max length = 30000 Anti-aliasing = 100 Phase = 66AUDIO VOLUME: Max allowed volume: 100 Replay Gain: None SW volume control: OFFLIBRARY SETTINGS: Sync list: 1 folders AUTO: /Users/kenkirk/Music iTunes/Music library synchronization: not synchronized Library database path: /Users/kenkirk/Library/Application Support/Audirvana/AudirvanaPlusDatabaseV2.sqliteACTIVE STREAMING SERVICES TIDAL: Connected as HIFI=================== AUDIO DEVICE ========================Preferred device: Stereo room speaker Model UID:Harman Luxury Audio Stereo room speaker UID:uuid:01e7c5cc-dde0-4813-8668-2b215e0ac87cCurrently playing to UPnP device at 24 bits 48kHz Selected device: UPnP device at http://10.0.0.5:40463/01e7c5cc-dde0-4813-8668-2b215e0ac87c.xml ID 0x0 Stereo room speaker Manufacturer:Harman Luxury Audio Model UID:Harman Luxury Audio Stereo room speaker UID:uuid:01e7c5cc-dde0-4813-8668-2b215e0ac87c6 available sample rates up to 192000Hz 44100 48000 88200 96000 176400 192000 Volume control: No MQA capability Auto-detect MQA devices: Yes Not a MQA device, user set to MQA Decoder DSD capability: Raw DSD (MSB) Device audio channels Preferred stereo channels L:0 R:1 Channel bitmap: Ox3, layout: Channel 0 mapped to 0 Channel 1 mapped to 1 UPnP/DLNA supported protocols: http-get::text/xml:DLNA.ORG_PN=DIDL_S http-get::audio/vnd.dlna.adts:DLNA.ORG_PN=HEAACv2_L2_320 http-get::audio/x-ms-wma:DLNA.ORG_PN=WMAFULL http-get::audio/x-ms-wma:DLNA.ORG_PN=WMABASE http-get::audio/3gpp:DLNA.ORG_PN=HEAACv2_L2_320 http-get::audio/mp4:DLNA.ORG_PN=HEAACv2_L2_320 http-get::audio/l16;rate=48000;channels=1:DLNA.ORG_PN=LPCM http-get::audio/l16;rate=48000;channels=2:DLNA.ORG_PN=LPCM http-get::audio/l16;rate=44100;channels=1:DLNA.ORG_PN=LPCM http-get::audio/l16;rate=44100;channels=2:DLNA.ORG_PN=LPCM http-get::audio/mpeg:DLNA.ORG_PN=MP3 rtsp-rtp-udp::text/xml:DLNA.ORG_PN=DIDL_S rtsp-rtp-udp::audio/vnd.dlna.adts:DLNA.ORG_PN=HEAACv2_L2_320 rtsp-rtp-udp::audio/x-ms-wma:DLNA.ORG_PN=WMAFULL rtsp-rtp-udp::audio/x-ms-wma:DLNA.ORG_PN=WMABASE rtsp-rtp-udp::audio/3gpp:DLNA.ORG_PN=HEAACv2_L2_320 rtsp-rtp-udp::audio/mp4:DLNA.ORG_PN=HEAACv2_L2_320 rtsp-rtp-udp::audio/l16;rate=48000;channels=1:DLNA.ORG_PN=LPCM rtsp-rtp-udp::audio/l16;rate=48000;channels=2:DLNA.ORG_PN=LPCM rtsp-rtp-udp::audio/l16;rate=44100;channels=1:DLNA.ORG_PN=LPCM rtsp-rtp-udp::audio/l16;rate=44100;channels=2:DLNA.ORG_PN=LPCM rtsp-rtp-udp::audio/mpeg:DLNA.ORG_PN=MP3 http-get::audio/mp4: http-get::audio/aac: http-get::audio/wave: http-get::audio/flac: http-get::audio/m4a: http-get::application/ogg: http-get::audio/wav: http-get::audio/l16;rate=48000;channels=1: http-get::audio/l16;rate=48000;channels=2: http-get::audio/x-m4a: http-get::audio/x-dsf: http-get::audio/x-wav: http-get::audio/mpeg: http-get::audio/vnd.dlna.adts: http-get::audio/3gpp: http-get::audio/aiff: http-get::audio/x-flac: http-get::audio/ogg: http-get::audio/x-ms-wma: http-get::audio/vorbis: http-get::text/xml: http-get::audio/l16;rate=44100;channels=1: http-get::audio/l16;rate=44100;channels=2: http-get::audio/x-dff: http-get::audio/x-aiff: rtsp-rtp-udp::audio/mp4: rtsp-rtp-udp::audio/aac: rtsp-rtp-udp::audio/wave: rtsp-rtp-udp::audio/flac: rtsp-rtp-udp::audio/m4a: rtsp-rtp-udp::application/ogg: rtsp-rtp-udp::audio/wav: rtsp-rtp-udp::audio/l16;rate=48000;channels=1: rtsp-rtp-udp::audio/l16;rate=48000;channels=2: rtsp-rtp-udp::audio/x-m4a: rtsp-rtp-udp::audio/x-dsf: rtsp-rtp-udp::audio/x-wav: rtsp-rtp-udp::audio/mpeg: rtsp-rtp-udp::audio/vnd.dlna.adts: rtsp-rtp-udp::audio/3gpp: rtsp-rtp-udp::audio/aiff: rtsp-rtp-udp::audio/x-flac: rtsp-rtp-udp::audio/ogg: rtsp-rtp-udp::audio/x-ms-wma: rtsp-rtp-udp::audio/vorbis: rtsp-rtp-udp::text/xml: rtsp-rtp-udp::audio/l16;rate=44100;channels=1: rtsp-rtp-udp::audio/l16;rate=44100;channels=2: rtsp-rtp-udp::audio/x-dff: rtsp-rtp-udp::audio/x-aiff: DLNA 1.5: Yes Gapless playback: Yes Missing events workaround: Yes Can play native DSD: Yes Number of channels: 2 Use as stereo device only: No1 output streams: Number of active channels: 2, in 1 stream(s) Channel #0 :Stream 0 channel 0 Channel #1 :Stream 0 channel 1Stream ID 0x0 0 channels starting at 0 12 virtual formats: 2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16 little endian Signed Integer 44.1kHz 2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 24 little endian Signed Integer 44.1kHz 2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16 little endian Signed Integer 88.2kHz 2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 24 little endian Signed Integer 88.2kHz 2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16 little endian Signed Integer 176.4kHz 2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 24 little endian Signed Integer 176.4kHz 2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16 little endian Signed Integer 48kHz 2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 24 little endian Signed Integer 48kHz 2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16 little endian Signed Integer 96kHz 2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 24 little endian Signed Integer 96kHz 2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 16 little endian Signed Integer 192kHz 2 ch Non-mixable linear PCM Interleaved 24 little endian Signed Integer 192kHz0 physical formatsCurrent device transportInfo: CurrentTransportState: PLAYING CurrentTransportStatus: OK CurrentSpeed: 1 Current device MediaInfo: NrTracks: 1 MediaDuration: 0:04:14 CurrentURI: http://10.0.0.3:49152/audirvana/audio_0_0.mqa.wav CurrentURIMetadata: dc:titleR. Strauss: Ein Heldenleben, Op.40, TrV 190 - Der Held</dc:title> dc:creatorBerliner Philharmoniker</dc:creator> upnp:artistBerliner Philharmoniker</upnp:artist> upnp:genre</upnp:genre> upnp:albumArtURIhttp://resources.tidal.com/images/ca52ae50/3345/4712/813f/756fa138bfe8/640x640.jpg</upnp:albumArtURI> upnp:albumStrauss, R.: Ein Heldenleben, Op. 40, TrV 190 / Wagner: Siegfried-Idyll, WWV 103</upnp:album> upnp:originalTrackNumber1</upnp:originalTrackNumber> upnp:classobject.item.audioItem.musicTrack</upnp:class> http://10.0.0.3:49152/audirvana/audio_0_0.mqa.wav Current device AVT service description:Current device RootDevice description:UPnP devices found : 4 Device #0: ID 0x0 Arcam 58ff68 UID: uuid:3dcc7100-f76c-11dd-87af-00226158ff68 Location: http://10.0.0.18:8080/dd.xml Device #1: ID 0x0 Stereo room speaker UID: uuid:01e7c5cc-dde0-4813-8668-2b215e0ac87c Location: http://10.0.0.5:40463/01e7c5cc-dde0-4813-8668-2b215e0ac87c.xml Device #2: ID 0x0 TMM RVU Client MediaRenderer UID: uuid:MediaRenderer-70_5A_9E_2A_43_43 Location: http://169.254.5.112:63445/upnp/xml/devices/MediaRenderer1.xml Device #3: ID 0x0 TMM RVU Client MediaRenderer UID: uuid:MediaRenderer-CC_03_FA_F3_A0_DA Location: http://169.254.12.147:63445/upnp/xml/devices/MediaRenderer1.xmlCoreAudio audio path, buffer I/O frame size: 0Max. memory for audio buffers: 5120MBLocal Audio Engine: Exclusive access: Enabled Integer mode: EnabledLocal devices found : 1 Device #0: ID 0x30 Built-in Output Manufacturer: Apple Inc. Model UID: AppleHDA:93 UID: AppleHDAEngineOutput:1B,0,1,1:0 Antoine September 11, 2020, 12:24pm 11

Not a MQA device, user set to MQA Decoder

So you set your Arcam as Decoder, MQA is not automatically detectable over UPnP, this is why you need to set it manually, when you play a MQA file in Audirvana, does your Arcam detect it? kenkirk September 11, 2020, 12:31pm 12 Yes I set the Arcam SA 30 as a MQA decoder. Audirvana shows the track from Tidal as a MQA, blue dot, 24/192 etc, but on the right side of the screen at output it shows 24/48 and that is what the Arcam shows. The Arcam receives the track name information and plays the track, but at 24/48 and no MQA. Antoine September 11, 2020, 1:49pm 13

The Arcam receives the track name information and plays the track, but at 24/48 and no MQA.

You need to contact Arcam about it because this means your DAC do not detect MQA content over UPnP. This is what Audirvana send to your device:http://10.0.0.3:49152/audirvana/audio_0_0.mqa.wav kenkirk September 11, 2020, 2:03pm 14 It works perfect with Roon. Is Roon set up differently?? Antoine September 11, 2020, 2:04pm 15 Roon is not using UPnP, they use a proprietary protocol that is very similar to it but it’s not UPnP. kenkirk September 11, 2020, 2:05pm 16 ok, thanks! I will contact Arcam support.Ken maciekb September 24, 2020, 3:25pm 17 Arcam SA30 supports MQA via uPnP when using mConnect as a controller on an Android phone. Of course, Arcam displays correct information about parameters of MQA stream. Unfortunately, Audirvana behaves as if the device does not support MQA at all.Best regards, Maciej Antoine September 25, 2020, 7:00am 18 Hello @maciekb, you need to change the MQA settings in the audio output settings to MQA Decoder so Audirvana can send to your SA30 the MQA stream directly.

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